Rudy Pensa,s are very rare nowadays and Dont see many for sale. Suhr,s not so much. Of course they were working together. I think Suhr,s are are way up there with any super jazz basses. Including Celinder, NYC sadowsky,Alleva,s. I certainly wouldn't compare any of those with a Fender Jazz of any ilk. There in a different league to any Fender. I think a lot of people look at the resale price not really how much a Suhr is worth to play and keep. But yeah I do think Suhr jazz basses are priced quite low.