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Currently selling a custom shop classic jazz and am open to offers [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/215880-fender-custom-shop-custom-classic-jazz/"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/215880-fender-custom-shop-custom-classic-jazz/[/url]

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1377972686' post='2194298'] I'm in a 3-piece too (+vox). I've never understood the need for anyone to 'fill in' the hypothetical 'void' created by the 'lack' of a second 'guitarist'. The fact that a 3-piece can be sparse is the joy of the format, IMHO. With good, creative musicians there's really no need for a second guitar, OR keys. [/quote] +1

[quote name='martin8708' timestamp='1377971975' post='2194290'] I was in a 3 piece for over 10 years ( guitarist who sings / bass with backing vox / drummer ) and it never sounded thin . If you have a strong rhythm guitarist the sound will always be full , the only time I have been in bands with a weedy sound is when the guitarist plays continuous lead or solo,s that he's learn't note for note off youtube . There is a definite lack of good rhythm guitarist's around , everybody wants to be a rock-god . [/quote] +1 Same as. Currently playing in a covers band covering a wide range of rock genres as a 3 piece The guitarist accesses a wide variety of sounds due to an elaborate pedal board. Just added Van Halen's jump to the set list with keyboard parts being played on guitar and it sounds well good IMO. Agreed that there is a lack of really good rhythm guitarist. Don't here too many guys that can match the groove that Nile Rodgers (Chic) injects into the gig. Now that's one hell of a guitar player.

Using a Markbass F500 and Markbass traveller cabs for several years with a LOUD classic rock group and regularly play with no PA support. The Markbass gear has always delivered in spades. Simply great gear, super loud, super tone and very reliable.

[quote name='Pinball' timestamp='1377507954' post='2188150'] I couldn't agree more, I have a lovely 2nd hand Sandburg that I managed to pick up very reasonably and love. [i]Note: On a personal note If I had a new and very expensive bass I would be worried to gig it in case I damaged it, where-as an old battered high end bass is and I enjoy it far more. How sad am I?[/i] The Guy who was making the points was talking about [u]new[/u] high end instruments and saying that the companies making them we're aiming them at the Investor market rather than the gigging musician. [/quote] I can relate to the concerns regarding the possibilities of damaging an expensive bass. But high end basses in the hands of musicians demand to be played as that's when you get a return on your investment. The joy of playing a top end bass together with what you earn from using it is the deal here. I have minimal wear on my basses as they are either in a case or in my hands, despite having been used at numerous gigs over the years. I always get positive comments on my tone (despite my limited ability to play the thing ) from other musicians. No doubt the quality of the tone has lead to repeated work so high end instruments being used, really do pay for themselves. A major recording bassist happened to be at a gig I was playing at the weekend and was amazed at the tone from 2 high end basses I used on the night (mind you he was well sloshed, so will remain nameless ) Personally I don't get this whole investor thing. Having kept an eye on prices over the years it just doesn't add up IMO. E.g. my Sadowsky is 4 years old and even if it was as new, it still comes in as second hand and would not give me the same return as its purchase price, despite the general consensus re. Sadowskys holding their value. However I don't care as it has, and continues to pay for itself in multiples, together with giving me great joy, because its being gigged rather than sitting in a glass case or whatever. A high end bass can only realise its true value, be it financial or otherwise when its been used IMO.

[quote name='deanovw' timestamp='1377443121' post='2187564'] People with lots of money tend to buy expensive instruments. Not many musicians I know have lots of money. Maybe I am moving in the wrong circles. [/quote] True for me also, most of the musicians I know are not very well off. With the recession here there has been a serious drop off in work. However IME there are many players using high end instruments. There is very good value to be had in used gear right now ( a mate of mine recently picked up a US lakland in great shape for 1400 euro). So even for "weekend warriors" like myself, there are real possibilities of obtaining a high end bass.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1377466026' post='2187939'] I play both of mine ... I don't expect to loose any money on them...but then I don't expect to sell them any time soon, anyway so I don't really care [/quote] yea my sadowsky is a keeper.

The investors I know of are working musicians. That's when the investment in a high end instrument are realised. I purchased a Sadowsky nyc in 2009, a superb bass, superb flamed top in excellent condition. It has more than paid its way and owes me nothing. It would be an easy sell, but not at more than I paid for it. However the money I have earned with it, together with the joy it offers due to its excellent build has made it an excellent investment.

Played our usual Saturday night residency (covers, classic rock etc) and we got a real thumbs up from some major recording artists that were in town partying. Well happy

[quote name='tonybassplayer' timestamp='1376663330' post='2177629'] To be fair to Rush every tour typically has a much changed set list to previous ones and they have a huge worldwide audience who are passionate about the band and the music and the DVD will be much awaited by thousands of fans. Yes they will make money out of it but who can blame them. I may even put it on my xmas list ( although I much preferred the Time Machine set list ) [/quote] Fair enough and I have no problems with them making money. Fabulous hard working band, the deserve every penny IMO

Feel free to reply if you know how many more DVD's Rush are likely to release. as that's the only question I am asking. For me its overkill now, for others out there its bring it on

love Rush, but how many DVD's are these guys going to release?. I have them all so buying another one is just overkill for me

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1375887140' post='2166984'] The Markbass heads, especially the F1/F500 and LM2/3 are notoriously 'flat' compared to most amplifiers for bass. There is barely any colour; something that took me some getting used to. The cabs however, are different. They all have their own voicings. Most the Markbass cabs have a more pronounced midrange to cut through, (although not all of them). They sound very 'punchy'. A Markbass amp through something like a Bergantino (again, they have their own flavours, but more 'your bass' orientated) is a great sound, and its pretty much your bass. It's night and day when you compare to something like a highly voiced GK or Ampeg amp. [/quote] + 1 Using a markbass f500 with markbass cabs and the lack of colouration really allows the tone of the actual bass come through, which is my kinda thing

Saw them a few years ago at the half moon and they blew me away. Pure unadulterated rock n roll. Wilko' and Norman will always rank up there with the greats in my book

This is fantastic. Thanks a million. look forward to giving them a good listen

Firstly in terms of instrument preference, for me the playability and feel is personal thing and these criteria are essential. A guitar that has a good tone but is a pig to play isn't viable. In my situation the guys i play with are quite experienced as musicians and one as a studio engineer so I will always be interested in their opinions, as they are in mine.So I guess when I invite comment from them regarding my tone, invariably it it will impact on my perceptions, but not to a degree where it would over ride my own personal choice.

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1375636589' post='2163733'] Interesting comparison I've heard previously someone who personally loved the sound he was hearing onstage from his Sadowsky but his sound man said his vintage Fender sounded much nicer out front. In that particular case it was possibly that the Sad was brighter and cutting through more on stage but maybe too bright and 'modern' when taken as part of the overall band mix. [/quote] Gigged the Sadowsky last night and it really is a case of ' six of one, half dozen of the other' regarding the Sadowsky v Custom Classic IMO. Different basses that function well but in different ways. I have a pre CBS jazz and it is by far and away the most outstanding bass I have ever had in my hands (even the guys in the band agree)

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1375619041' post='2163470'] I don't think other players tune into A bass sound as such.... and even though some bass player friends say they like my sound... they have quite a conservative sound themselves, so whilst it is nice to get a compliment, I don't think they really know too much away from the norm.. I think the keys and gtr in my band get pretty good sounds off their kit but I am not tuned in to the little nuances as they are... and vice-versa. [/quote] Yea I agree, though i like to get feedback form the other guys. They are very experienced musicians and we pretty much always reach a consensus when somebody brings in some new kit. That's why I was interested in the difference of opinion re. the Sadowsky v CS classic jazz. Of course the last word on bass gear will be with the bass player, but it seems that after several gigs with the classic jazz that their initial opinion re its superiority over the Sadowsky has some merit.