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the map was updated even before you asked ed to add , it was updated before I read your post , but after you actually posted it

[quote name='Skol303' timestamp='1371114918' post='2109895'] Great quote from producer/songwriter Ethan Johns in the current issue of Sound On Sound magazine: "The only way, in my opinion, to get a great bass sound is to have a great-sounding bass player... People hear Danny Thompson's bass sound and they go, 'Can you get me that sound?' And the answer is, 'No, I can't.' It's the way he plays it..." So, more time practicing and less time spent GASsing for me [/quote] It is an odd one to work out really , as an engineer the 'great sound' he is after would probably one of consistency of timing and volume with the ideal tone for the job in hand , together with an ability to provide it quickly and effectively , and all that probably requires a quality player .

[quote name='ubassman' timestamp='1371159749' post='2110804'] ...you have a map? [/quote] [url="https://maps.google.co.uk/maps/ms?msid=210691614987351235849.0004d5f2ff114291042ee&msa=0"]Yup[/url] , I believe it is linked to the BC Relay facebook page aswell

Awesome updates , are there definitive dates and venues I can pin onto the map ?

Success This is my attempt , I had a bit of singist help , and I still can't get the mix quite right for the vocal to sit properly , but I think it is worth putting up for an entry . If I get a better vocal blend I will try again , but it is doing my head in so here it is . [url="https://soundcloud.com/lurksalot/broke-mountain-blues-1"]link [/url] ed to post the new mix

Cheers Mike , I understand what you say , many thanks, It is soooo difficult to remember as the minute you change one thing it seems to impact everything else

I am really struggling to get soundcloud to upload at the minute , I have tried 3 times , it all seems to work but when I hit the save button it all goes away , and I cant find it , I shall keep trying

[quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1370901767' post='2107332'] I think mine's done now: [url="http://soundcloud.com/mornats/when-things-come-out-at-night"]http://soundcloud.co...me-out-at-night[/url] [/quote] That is a quality piece , it has excitement all the way through it , mine has turned out a little different than I expected , but much as I feared , darn that mix competition !!!! talking of mixing , that is my next job , the vocal is half decent now that I have done a bit of collaboration

Thats a lovely piece Steve , well in , Mine is nearly done , I have recorded a vocal but I am really hoping to get our bands singer to do it so that I can ditch mine , If its a possibility I will hang fire , but if not, I will put mine up.

[quote name='lowdown' timestamp='1370769819' post='2105213'] I noticed some action Cinematic tracks up on that site................... A whole new ball game as far as panaramic sound staging, width, height and depth are concerned. Not carving out loads of bottom end, and very careful use of panning, comps and eq's, while still keeping a multitude of dynamics, and Orchestral Instrument placement very much still intact...... Garry [/quote] yum yum , I will have a go at anything

......Or a smokefree pub in Colchester........ Very good Rob , not my thing really though , but I do like the way you drive the the feel through the piece .

Brilliant Rob , just superb My faves are right were I belong and handsome fighters , if all the songs were produced like handsome fighters you could give up your day job before long

[quote name='Mornats' timestamp='1370710644' post='2104761'] To pique your interest, here's the list of instruments I've used on it:[list] [*][color=#333333]Overwater Classic Jazz bass [/color] [*][color=#333333]Ibanez GRG70 guitar [/color] [*][color=#333333]EZDrummer POP! Drum Kit [/color] [*][color=#333333]Miroslav Philharmonik [/color] [*][color=#333333]Sampletank Roots Pandeiru [/color] [*][color=#333333]Synapse Dune synth [/color] [*][color=#333333]Kontakt Orchestral Grand Piano [/color] [*][color=#333333]Guitar Rig 5 Pro and Rammstein plugin[/color] [/list] [/quote] I'm a bit dissapointed not to see the Horn of Gondor on that list , but maybe Bilbo has that put away somewhere

[quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1370692028' post='2104438'] I reckon that John Hall is pretty punk.. And he don't care! [/quote] Ah but he does , it just that his grasp on the real world is pretty vacunt

I'm game.

this is all new to me aswell Milty , you will make massive steps on the first 3 or 4 mixes , and each time more things will fall into place , I am only just starting to understand the advice that was given to me 3 months ago . but learning to listen is way up on the list of things to start with. one thing I have really picked up on , is that when you mess with parts the sound of the actual part does not have to sound full and awesome on its own , you can strip out with EQ loads of the sound spectrum of any one part and it might sound odd, but when you put it in the mix , whats left of it has its own space, can be heard and doesn't interfere sonically with other parts so much. the difficult bit is working out which frequencies of the parts identify the characteristics of the part , and that is one of the next stages for me, so that I can get a feel for what it should sound like and subsequently how to achieve it . it is really brain hurting sometimes , but well worth the effort.

I get the impression when looking back, that punk was a fashion experiment that spawned some great music, loads of crap , but some great stuff.

My notes about the mixes ,all are to be taken with a pinch of the proverbial and may say more about my naivety than ability to mix so here goes A unbalanced, to low bv , vocal to low . (I have already bounced this one off dad) B I thought it was awesome , a lovely reduction of the bass sustain and EQ made it obviously a DB , referencing maybe should be against a DB rather than a generic country track, I had the vision in my head of a DB and that may have coloured my listening . I was happy with the vocal, maybe a touch dry , but not a lot , and the detail in the drums and cymbals cut through nicely with the keys making an appearance , so , yeah if some one can burst my bubble I would welcome it . ed ..noted before the feedback guys C I thought too reverby , like warehouse with a low ceiling , bass was boomy and lacked detail no tinking ride, there is a lovely ride deatail at about 2.20 and lots of mixes missed it. D vocal too low, snare a bit masked and a touch jangly with too much banjo masking the tinking ride but near a vote E bass a touch boomy , but got my vote as it was close on the refernce stuff I used . Well done F too much reverb on vocal , undistiguished bass ,light snare ok again already discussed with Twigman G a bit tinny on the BV and a lack of bass tone , no tinking ride but near a vote H BV a bit to low and bass a bit buried, muddy bottom and heavy kick in parts with a slightly smothered vocal I vocal a bit thick but far too much processing on the drums, gate maybe , an unnatural sound to me . J Light yet muddy real bass tone and vocal too reverby, tooo much twang , missing loads of detail K mixed through a blanket , it completely lacked clarity and now that I know whos it is , the gung ho approach shows, it is probably like mine sounded when I started, so stick at it … L far too much reverb, everything just sounds recorded in a different county , no blend . In summary , my summary and mix notes need as much pulling apart as my mix, but with my limited skills my conclusions in general would be lots of lost detail like bass tone and the ride tinking , the bass needed volume automation to keep it consistent in some of the run downs as it got lost in most mixes, a bit too much twang and reverb on show for my taste, but so interesting to hear everyone elses take on it Great fun, and can't wait for the next one . Kev

Dad , I had a thought the other day, when checking your mix , why not flip your cans round to get a quick assesment of the balance .

Cheers Paul I was B , and a bit surprised on the vocal and reverb comments , the mix was pretty dry of reverb as I am normally guilty of washing all over the thing , but yes while I did strip out a lot of the mud , the bass is a touch boomy even though it has well defined mids , ah well , thanks any way , Just tidying up my notes (for what they are worth) and will post them tommorrow.

Well done Deb , lovely tune and playing , I think your singing is spot on, actually I would have liked more of it , For practice I would suggest singing and recording one line at a time , that way the breathing is easier and makes the note control more even. I have just realsied the summer months aren't condusive to vocal recording , the neighours windows are still open and if I am singing now they might hear it, it is not so bad if I get 1 take in 20 , you guys will hear it , but the neighbours will hear the other 19 aswell

[QUOTE] [b]Mix B[/b] Bass sounds nice, but its very very loud in the mix, BV is rather loud too I think. You struggled with the drums, they arent in a space at all, very very dry indeed, not much evidence of the OH and room mics, which is a shame. Not so twangy and harsh as A though. [/QUOTE] Cheers Si , I'll take that , though the bass does sound a touch louder on the cloud version than on my own wav on my computer , I too on reflection thought the BV a touch too much, but I didn't realise I had a problem with the drums . It will take a while to digest your mix notes , but will try and apply some of the ideas into mine when I get the chance . I have bought some monitor speakers now, so I will have to get a feel for them , I should then have enough to really lose my way . Are mix notes an intrinsic part of the process ? I made a few comments about each mix as I heard them , but I didn't make comprehensive notes about mine , I should probably make an effort to write it down as I do it I guess

I have the format , drums and a few filly bits down(ish) , lyrics ready , the bassline is doing my head in though , I used to do the stuff in my sleep but getting a 3 minute blues line down is just hurting right now, never mind the vocal , I may need some help with that.

[quote name='SpaceChick' timestamp='1370455242' post='2101262'] Bloody hell Paul, you weren't lying were you I'm addicted already!! I have recorded all the parts, but may re-record some of the vocals.... Haven't decided yet!! I have had a lot of fun though, even though my song is quite "dark". I have learned soooo much yesterday and today.... I've never used a DAW before, so it's a steep learning curve. So, my fellow basschatters, I think you will be having an entry from a female this month In all honesty, I can't see me getting a single vote, but that's OK as there is some incredible talent on here (which I most certainly haven't developed.... Hopefully yet!). However, the doing is an accomplishment for me in itself, so happy days! [/quote] It sounds all good so far , don't worry about the votes , I use the competition as a kick up my backside to do something I have always wanted to do , so it is the experience, process and the participation that was my motivator , but , when I got a vote I could not believe it , what a buzz , honest , someone liked mine a bit more than the others . I reckon there is a nice person somewhere just doing the nicest things in the world .

[quote name='Low End Bee' timestamp='1369390608' post='2088612'] Very chuffed to have two new songs arranged and completed at rehearsal last night. One of them clocks in at an epic 1minute and 25 seconds! [/quote] play it twice ( with no gaps )