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Crap Sound at Gigs or Perfect Mix for Whom?
lurksalot replied to Chienmortbb's topic in General Discussion
You may well be correct in that, however , the venue staff concurred that the sound was abysmal , they know how the room should have sounded , they have a few gigs there , the support act sound was fine and Crystal clear -
Crap Sound at Gigs or Perfect Mix for Whom?
lurksalot replied to Chienmortbb's topic in General Discussion
Elvis Costello , June 10th Liverpool Philharmonic , utter car crash of a sound set up , I’ve posted elsewhere. I don’t normally go to the arenas as the sound has been disappointing on the occasions I have. Competence aside , those places must be a mare to get the sound right , but the Philharmonic should be a breeze! -
My entry bass on the picture chosen by last months winner Skankdelvar Well I thought this shouted 'Folk' so I tried it, and it actually turned out a little bit folky the lead guitar bit was supposed to sound like a mandolin , and I used a midi piano to make the fiddle sounds , I'm sure they could be more accurate...if I spent a year trying to polish it! A fair bit of autotune on the vocal, but my sister reckons my nasal tones work best in the folk genre , and when she says best , she means least worse! IIRC The hook of the lyric comes from a 2 Ronnies sketch , its a line that me and my brother throw at each other quite regularly
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Not so much with the bass playing , but certainly does with the singing . when I’m recording in the winter months , it’s cold, dark and the neighbours have their windows closed, they can’t hear my dulcet tones . im the summer I sometimes have some explaining to do 🤦♂️
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I don’t think he actually had a go at Rod Stewart , more the song choices made.
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I probably shouldn’t dig , but there was no resolution , the sound was abysmal from the first note to the last , there was no noticeable change to any EQ or reverb throughout the night , the vocal was lost, the drums were spilling into everything and the bass an inaudible mush . Pump it up , an iconic bass line if ever there was one, was just about perceivable. honestly , if you know the crew and thus the problems , could you share them with us?
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That being the case , surely the crew would have made the band, and Costello in particular, aware of the problem ? he had no idea why the audience were calling at him , he had no grasp of what was going on for about 30 minutes, and rather than ask around the crew , he told the audience to “shut the f**k up” The story from the venue management was that he turned down the use of the house Rig , at the end of the day things do go wrong every now and again , but why is that MY risk in a professional show? if the artist can’t put on a show to a decent standard , money should be refunded or a new show scheduled. you can’t just shrug your shoulders and walk off with the money.
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Well the desk was at the side of the stage , they had no idea what the sound was like out front. Ian Prowse, the support, was spot on crystal clear and had the crowd well up for the gig. The tour declined the option of the house rig. ”serious technical issue” ... not buying that at all , where are you getting that gem from ?
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This happened
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The whole audience , honestly , it would have been passable, just, without the rhythm section ,it was just loud mush
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Elvis Costello and the imposters , well , the biggest imposter was the sound ‘engineer’ utter , utter garbage at the Philharmonic in Liverpool , I don’t do stadium/arena/festival stuff I’ve found the sound crap , but FFS .... it’s the Philharmonic Hall , sound is what they do truly awful , the house management were all embarrassed and couldn’t apologise enough , they should be refunding. DIRE
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it’s not your bouncing bass leg is it ? Hope it gets better soon bud 👍
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What have you gone and done dude 😳
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I’ve written some lyrics and I know what genre I want it to be ... but once I start actually playing some instruments it will probably change ! it won’t be dub or Doh... it’s a lottery 😁
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That’s what I was suggesting , the speed is slower and thus lacks the energy
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the speed varies considerably , the needle is travelling faster across the first tracks and slows as it gets to the middle.
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I recall a Peter Gabriel interview regarding track positions on his ‘So’ album , they were out of his preferred order on the album, as the pressings handle bass better on the first few tracks of each side. the needle travels faster along the outside and creates more energy from the groove .
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Embarrassing gigging moments: whats yours? :)
lurksalot replied to Greg.Bassman's topic in General Discussion
As a punter I was watching a great band playing rocked up TV theme tunes , a great night was being had by all . Smart arsé here notices the theremin at the front of stage and decides he can chip in and play it from in front of the ( 1 foot high ) stage. it turns out I could influence the thing and the singer is playing along with this... until someone knocks me from behind and I faceplant the stage . quick as a flash the singer’s shins are pinning my shoulders to the stage and he is thrusting away to much hilarity . everyone denies bumping into me , so I may have just been pi55ed 😂 I’ve grown a bit wiser now, but that gig last year was excellent 😁 -
Well then , here we go , dive in
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Congratulations to @skankdelvar , a popular one with the voters and duly collected the reward of being the Honourable Picture Provider By way of introduction ... "This month's pic is Forge Valley, Scarborough by John Atkinson Grimshaw (1836 - 1893). No great significance, it's just a picture I like." Simple rules ✔️ Entries must be <5 minutes and recorded this month. ✖️ No illegal samples, copyright infringements or other snide goings-on ✖️ No Bagpipes. please no bagpipes, the Platinum Jubilee day truce didn't materialise . panpipes only if you have too. ✖️ No voting for your own entry. We'll know. And we'll shame you. A line or two offering an insight to your inspiration/track choice will be good as well , it works nicely on the voting thread. The Deadline for entries is Midnight on Thursday 23rd June good luck everyone
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Congratulations @skankdelvar , a brilliant piece , superbly executed and a popular winner by all counts, from a quality bunch of tunes and songs 👍
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This is a monthly challenge where members can write and record a piece of music. this thread is for everyone to vote for their favourite. the thread that created the ideas is
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Congratulations to both @Doctor J and @NickD on their joint win in a tightly fought end to the April Challenge. After a small discussion the photo was offered by NickD and agreed by all parties and has proved to be a very positive and inspiring image His preamble ... " I was messing with vapour and light for a photography project last year, and this reminded me of the smoky, fleapit cinemas of my childhood, but I reckon it's pretty wide open to interpretation." There we have it , the only thing left is to offer up the tunes inspired by the picture to the Basschat community and their 3 votes each , so here they are 1 @NickD I get a Mothership, beam me up, vibe from the picture, so kinda fancied the mid-paced, big chorus, funky thing. Obviously it's a picture of a projector, so the evils of TV gave me my subject matter. 2 @xgsjx Had an idea for a trance song, picked up the bass & something not trance came out. But I liked it, so that's the bassline. Then I set about mixing trance, metal & breakbeat together to come up with this nonsense. 3 @Dad3353 I started off with a blank sheet and doodled some chord sequences; this was the result. 4 @Nail Soup In the picture I saw the light.... so theme of song is 'seeing the light'. Musically it is a nod to the various spiritually-tinged songs on the Velvet Underground's 3rd album 5 @Leonard Smalls The picture reminded me of the Moody Blues' Malapropic misquote of Milton, which further reminded me of a schoolmate who swore his dad had just bought a new Austin Fandango. Hence a song about cars ending in "O", which obviously meant a weird jazzy ambient bit sandwiched between 2 slabs of Funky Cockney and Groovy Scouse... 6 Lurksalot a tale of unrequited love with tunnel references 7 @fingers211 Please, let me explain ! I had a somewhat grandiose idea. First I would find a numerical value for the colours of the spectrum, (yeah right). Then, I would convert those numerical values into musical notes that would base themselves around my given value of middle C. I would then play the colours in the picture as notes. Well let me tell you, I ended so far up myself that it got painfull !!! 8 @upside downer The image made me think of a swirly time and space portal from those old 60s and 70s TV shows so here's a slightly-skewed-in-places tune with a few echoey bits thrown in for a wobbly 'Woah, time travel, eh?' feel. But what is time? “Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so” said Ford Prefect to Arthur Dent as the Earth was about to be demolished in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Fair enough. Who am I to argue? 9 @skankdelvar I intended to take a break from the comp this month. Then I saw the image and it just screamed 'Do a Floyd rip-off!' Well there you go , if you have taken the time to listen through , I have no doubt that you will have enjoyed the time spent. you have 3 votes to try and separate these superb entries , good luck to the participants and voters Voting will end at midnight on 31st May
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That's a first , the last 2 entries squeeking in at 4.59 , rules is rules and we appreciate the dedication to those timings Suffice to say the voting thread will be up soon , but I have got distracted by listening through as I build up the thread. F**k me you guys have all played blinders this month , hats off
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This is my entry based on the picture chosen by last months winners NickD and DoctorJ This track probably needs a lot more doing with it, but ... a) as mentioned above , I've got used to it and b) my old jalopy of a PC was able to handle this to this point , this is obviously as nature intended it , a tale of unrequited love with tunnel references Technical , Ez drummer with lots of played midi additions, bass and guitars through waves GTR3 FX, vocals messed with CLA vocals , and a splash of ozone 8 to wash it over. I think it works better louder than Soundcloud wants to play it, but that might just be the way my stuff is set up. Lyrics