12stringbassist

We've run one for about 11 years now (9.5 years with our band line-up). Anything but cliquey, as we will NOT allow that, but you do tend to get the same people turning up playing the same things badly. We have never ever told anyone what to play. People have asked to play with us and we give them a set list to choose from in that case, but it's their night, not ours, which is why it's been going for so long. But we do get some new blood doing different things, we match people up to play together, or back them and people get decent length spots. I will be doing it up to the end of the year and it will no doubt carry on without me.

It's utter cack. A venue we play at tried to get us to use it and I did all the stuff to get registered and submit ID and tax docs. It never ever worked properly and the venue ended up paying us cash on the night. The venue manager has moved on and we are now being told to use it again. There's a little help from the venue, but setting me up with a new login ID that doesn't work is not much help. It's not the venue's fault, but I can see our three remaining gigs there going up in smoke and 90% of their bands pulling gigs. EDIT: They are going to take invoices from us and input them so we get paid. That totally defeats the use of the C247 system. God knows what all the other bands are going to end up doing. This is as far as most will get: https://www.c247.eu/index.aspx

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The WhY

This is my usual rig at the moment. I do have the option of swapping in a 4x10.

When it becomes work.......

My band have been hosting a jam night for the last 9 years. It's getting to be rather groundhog day now, with a number of the same people fluffing their songs in the same place and the same way every week. I'm fed up of hearing the same joke week in week out for this long. I'm beginning to get really tired of backing people who aren't very good and who show no sign of improvement. We have built it up and it is very well supported. We have some new blood in recent times, a bunch of teenagers who are sticking in and learning songs and doing very passable versions of them. Last night they asked me to play Everlong as their bassist was on holiday. Never heard of it. They couldn't quite believe it. I'm 66 and an amount of more recent music that young kids like has passed me by. I am still stinging from the dirty look I got shot for a slight mistake during Sweet child of mine (not a song I mess with). I could hardly hear the guitar for the drummer they had last night. Cymbal city. He left the spare guitar tuned down a semitone which messed up the next act. I mentioned to our drummer that I want to stop doing the jam night in the new year. They can carry on with another bassist, but the money's not great and it's really hard work as I end up backing near everything all night. He wasn't overly impressed, but I've made my mind up to get my Sundays back and to play every other weekend The good point was that we worked up a song from our album and played it live for the first time at the start of the night and finished with it as well. It's a band album, but I ended up doing all the playing on about half of the songs and getting any of the album songs played live has been a problem. www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_-1W3deukY

I was talked into selling a Ric style bass made by John Birch by someone who pretty much begged me to, then he flipped it pretty quickly. I was annoyed when it suddenly reappeared in someone else's hands simply because I had always quite liked it.... but not enough to fend off an offer for it. Would I buy it back? No. I have never let a bass go and wanted it back. I sold a friend a Fender Precision Lyte bass and he gave me first refusal to buy it back with a practice amp thrown in, as he wasn't really a bassist, just fancied a go. Someone else took it off my hands a little while afterwards, as I preferred my other P Lyte

It's very much like the rise of reality TV shows where people become famous for standing around and being famous. Lowest common denominator no talent rubbish. What would be useful would be a reality show where a band is put together, consisting of people who have to actually play instruments and actually write and record songs. That would promote live music in some way and possibly create a worthwhile product. I know it was done a few years ago. Instead, TV sends various boys and girl off to an island to s*** each other's brains out and calls that 'good television'.

The big acts have their place in Record Store Day. Just as much as the 'second division' acts and independents. They get bums on seats. Can't see why they should be excluded. Looking at what I have bought in the way of RSD stuff in recent years... Del Amitri Sense Sickness picture disc 45 Cheap Trick Gimme Some Truth 45 / Found more parts / Live album Slade Ballzy and Power Supply albums Ian Hunter Dandy 45 / Defiance part II 2LP Ultravox instrumental version CD's Nick Lowe Pure pop for now people LP There are probably a few more...

The OP appears to be a cut and paste that once dropped into the forum has split all of the text up. Rick Beato has a point. The major companies still control the charts and the independents hardly get a look in, unless they are really organised and build up sales in advance that all count in one week when the product becomes available and ships. Too many young people today (certainly not all of them, though) are going down the road of accepting what they are sold, have little sense of music history and are content to listen to the warblings of Beyonce etc. Where are the bands? They are still hacking away at it with diminishing returns.

I quite like playing music that I like over the PA before we come on and seeing some baffled faces. We don't try to educate people with our set, but the PA is my domain. A few of the songs from playlists that have confused folks... 'Bay City Rollers we love you' (Nick Lowe as The Tartan Horde). 'Let's get f***ed up' (The Cramps) 'Bite it' (Cheap Trick) 'My kingdom for a car' (Jason and The Scorchers) 'F*** it up' (Ian Hunter) 'Drunk in a band' (Del Amitri) Various Sparks / XTC / Zappa things..

It's a life decision. You have to do what feels right for you. I think I'm in the last year of doing this myself, due to health concerns and other stuff in my own band. I'm 66 and don't need the money or the hassle anymore. The band nearly stopped this month. We have a full diary to the end of the year and I'll be surprised if we actually get to New Year's Eve. The idea of starting something else after this just gives me the heebie jeebies. I've already got some instruments on Ebay.

I don't think anyone on here would deny they have the perfect right to do a last hurrah if they want to. It probably will be The Last Time this time. It's good that Bill Ward is on drums too. Good for them sorting that. Ozzy doesn't have to be able to sing marvelously, but it would obviously be a lot better if he did. People can perform really well with Parkinsons (Justin Currie of Del Amitri being an example - but we're talking real quality there). I imagine the regular ticket price will be eye-watering, but we have the choice not to pay it if it doesn't suit us, but it's a total smack in the teeth to the fans who have supported him / them all of these years. Bloody Sharon... I will watch it on TV, probably. Or bits on Youtube. Sabbath only got through to me with the odd song. Anyone who's going will have a special night, regardless of whether Ozzy is 100% or not. If you're going, enjoy...

That's terrible. Hotels need to start providing 100% secure parking.

It will go kapow....

Years ago, supporting Dave Hill's version of Slade, we settled into the backstage dressing room area at The Queen's Hall, Widnes. We took up a very small corner of the room, but when Dave Hill appeared, it was all a case of a "no no no, this won't do..." tantrum and the rest of his band giggled at him as he struggled, huffing and puffing, trying to pull a mobile partition across to divide the room into two halves. I think when we had stopped laughing, we did the gentlemanly thing and put our stuff in our cars and got out of his way. He was absolutely insufferable that day and when the rest of the band tried to headhunt me because their bassist was leaving, I politely declined.

A gig with a cabaret band at Chester Town Hall, many years ago, amused me greatly, as the raised stage sloped downward and forward and anything on wheels threatened to roll in to the audience from above. We were going round the building before showtime borrowing doorstops and gaffa taping them in front of our gear. (Not my photos, but they show that stage).

How very sad. My thoughts are with them at this terrible time.

I remember a gig in Darwen (23.6.94). The drummer and I went outside between sets and we shared a spliff. He said he'd rolled 'a masterblaster'. We got shouted to come back inside and start the second set and my legs wouldn't work. I was hanging onto this church wall for dear life. I think i was straightened out enough to resume battle after about another ten minutes. That was pretty funny with hindsight, though not at the time. So my short answer is, no I don't find drugs that useful.

While the final amounts these items went for are ridiculously high, I guess these people have spent their money how they choose to. The items all went well beyond their estimates. In some cases, I believe that animal rescue charities benefitted from the sales. Nobody except my local council tax officer and the taxman tell me how to spend my money. I spend what I have how I want to and if I had wanted to buy something of Jeff Beck's, it would be up to me and nobody else. I didn't, by the way.

My guitarist has had the worst time with knackered gear from Bax. I wouldn't buy from them if they were the last place on Earth.

Their offer isn't a rip-off, it's just too low. My local PMT have advised me in the past not to trade in with them, as they are forced to make lowball offers and have said I'd do better on Ebay or FB marketplace.

Saturday night was our second gig of this year at Hogarths in Bolton. A decent sized venue and usually quite busy. It was fairly packed while we were playing and our two spots went down really well. They even went a bit mad when we played one of our own songs off our album. Back in September.