12stringbassist

I had this one in the early - mid 80's. Action to die for and knobs that actually went to 11. Lovely to play and record with, but I couldn't get it to sound ballsy, no matter what I did with it. Ended up selling it, as I bought a Fender Precision Lyte that outperformed it.

It will cost you nothing but time to follow the dispute process. The seller may stiff people in other ways regularly. Rogues should be outed. I'd post the gist of your initial post on here as negative feedback.

I'd say US Standard.

Retrovibe RV5 - Can't recommend it enough!

Jim uses a great bass just before the Birch.

http://www.crazeeworld.plus.com/slade/2011/pages/gear.htm#jim One-off John Birch custom EB-3 style bass.

The GAK website is so SLLOOOOOOWWWW. They have them on the Dawsons site: http://www.dawsons.co.uk/guitars/bass-guitars/epiphone-limited-edition-eb-0-bass-pelham-blue

The bass with a trem arm was a one-off Jaydee. It made it into a video or two at the fag-end of their career and as an un-used backup bass on their final tour in 1983. It's on my Slade gear page [url="http://www.crazeeworld.plus.com/slade/2011/pages/gear.htm"]here[/url] along with most of their other guitars.

Jim Lea played bass on all of Slade's recordings, Dave or Nod would sometimes (rarely) do a bass part onstage, if Jim was playing violin. I think Jim Lea was the reason I took up bass - far more so than McCartney. My Slade site is at [url="http://www.slayed.co.uk"]www.slayed.co.uk[/url]

Having seen both bands tonight, Cheap Trick came out way in front (I'm biased) despite a 'PA failure' during their last song that cut their set short by at least 6 minutes. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fR_LajHsCPY Ian Gillan set himself a very high standard to keep up years ago and he can't get anywhere near those high notes now. Glover's bass sound for me was extremely weedy. I have to confess I didn't get to see the end of the show.

Onward and Upward mate!!

Upon seeing the post about pedals above, I'd mention that I have one of these and to be honest, it's useless with a bass, except to thicken up the sound. Great for gui*ar, though!!

One of these would help. The great thing about 12 string basses (and 8's) is having the strings VERY slightly (and I mean microscopically) out of tune - that helps give a really big sound. With a pedal modifying a 4's output, you'll possibly have trouble making it sound like it should.

You could always stick a small mixer in front of the rigs and re EQ the output to the guitar amp to trim the bottom end off. A guitar amp is never going to put enough out to carry to an audience without the speakers dying. I'd still say you'll never get a 12 strings ound from a 4 string. I reckon you'll be very happy with the sound if you get an 8 string bass and a mix of 10 / 15" speakers.

My first bass was a single PU Avon EB-O type. Not dreadful. I let my daughter have it to learn on. Got it back now. Won't ever see a stage again, as I have a real Gibson EB3 type now.

Going to Manchester, simply to see Cheap Trick.

Of all the Gibson cabs Rick uses, only one is ever mic'd up. When they came to the UK last year, there was actually a set of normal Marshall 4x12's (probably hired) with a covering sheet in front that made it look like he was using the checkerboard rig.

I think a lot of what Tom does is, shall we say, 'experimental' and a lot of it is for show (tbh). The spillage from string impact between the pickups surely negates the individual outputs. there is no way to separate signal from the bass strings and drone strings. As soon as you get hold of a 12er, you'll see that. It's the same as a 12 string guitar. He is certainly going to be able to fine tune his sound between the rigs, but I reckon you can get a great overall sound with what i have, without resorting to an arena size bass rig!. He uses the Rickenbacker cabinet and Reeves / Hi Watts. I think the AC30's are Robin's.

If you put your bass signals (treated and untreated) into the PA and get it to sound right, then you are then really only limited as to what you can hear onstage. I'd go for an **active** 12er and a mix of 10 / 15" speakers. [color=#ff0000][b]The Dean Rhapsody is active.[/b][/color]

Also - your rig will need to cope with it. You would probably know TP has the luxury of three outputs, 3 wireless systems and 3 rigs onstage to cover all frequencies. I just use this lot whenever there's space - does the job nicely at low volume.

Pedals really won't do it. Get the Dean. I have a Dean Rhapsody 8-string and it's very good. If you decide to go the whole hog for a Hamer 12er later, avoid the Chapparal, go for an older ACTIVE B12 / B12A. They exist. Best source of info - [url="http://www.12stringbass.net/"]http://www.12stringbass.net/[/url]

I'd also throw in playing at a Licensed Victualers function near Lancaster a number of years ago. I won't name the venue, as someone could be really upset if it turned up on Google. The 60's cabaret band I was playing with at the time noticed a disturbance about 60 feet away in the distance across the dancefloor and someone motioned for us to stop playing. One of the guitarists walked over to have a look and came back to pronounce that some poor chap had keeled over at the edge of the dancefloor. It didn't look at all good: "Brown bread" he said. Oh Sh*t. We stayed around the stage as a few people rushed around to sort things out. The DJ who we worked with quite regularly when we played there was taking advantage of the fact that his ever-present girlfriend wasn't there that night and was esconsed upstairs in a room, "conversing at length" in a redced-clothing situation with another young lady. He wasn't around to put any quiet mood music on, so the organisers asked us to carry on playing. The scene across the dance floor was looking worse. Chap not getting up, his wife was hysterical, not at all good or at all conducive to playing. BUT, we soldiered on as instructed, to the disbelief of about 75 of the punters. Some callous pigs actually were dancing within 10 feet of the guy, while his wife could be heard crying above the band. Appalling. Next song on list - Heartbeat. I don't think so... Fortunately, the Ambulance people came in, waved quite firmly for us to stop as they entered. That was it, game over. Never have I been so relieved to see the uniforms turn up.