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Everything needed to play the one track we are going into the studio to record this weekend: [IMG]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/pantherairsoft/Amp%20Cab%20Pedals/67056336.jpg[/IMG]

Or even fonder....!

[quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1338936826' post='1681534'] [attachment=109586:Gedling-20120605-00281.jpg] Current setup minus the Corvid! Want to add it but the pedal train nano is truely tiny! may have to pickup the smaller polytune and then mount the power on the underside. [/quote] Looking cool dude!! As we are recording this weekend, rather than taking the huge board I thought I'd just put all the pedals I need to play the 1 track we are doing onto my Diago Showman.... .... They don't fit!!!! I can't get the pedals required to perform one song onto a large pedal board. Bad times! Lol

It's not too aggressive on the octave down. Much smoother than the OC2, a little more like the EBS Octabass... Though to be fair it is not as high quality sounding (a little more digital) - you get what you pay for. The octave up stuff is more digital and warbly, though I feel that gives it a synthy sine-wave like quality which I really like.

Yeah - basically that. Been super busy with gigs and we are recording a new single this coming weekend, plus I'm mixing a live EP at the mo and have some voice over bits to record (tomorrow maybe) on another 2 pedal demo's so I haven't had time. I'll hopefully get around to a demo in the next week or so. I'm very impressed for its size and cost though.

If you are hunting the net for loopers though please be aware that you are looking for a sound-on-sound looper (usually called 'looper' or 'loop pedal') and NOT a True Bypass Looper (usually called 'Bypass Looper'). The latter does not do what you are after and are far cheaper so you may find them on your google search and think you found a bargain!

The ability to blend a fat envelope filter with just a tiny bit of LFO (So you hear the wobble fade in when you sustain a note) is lovely. http://www.wmdevices.com/superfatman.php I use a WMD Geiger Counter too. Amazing pedals.

I am now rocking the WMD Super FatMan and oh my goodness is it amazing! It has replaced both my 442 & my Groove Regulator from my board, and every other envelope in my collection has gone (other than a sweepable low pass filter). Amazing Tonally and with a massive host of features. I was hoping I'd love the Source Audio BEF Pro as every raves about it and lots of guys doing similar music to myself rely on it as the main stay of their sound - I however thought it was horrid and very very digital sounding. It lacked balls when used with an octave down (not bad on a clean tone but I run an octave down pedal 90% of the time). I was all round disappointed in the unit. This is of course all a matter of opinion as lots of folks love them and it has ALOT of features and options in one box. It just wasn't for me!!

[quote name='lxxwj' timestamp='1338769593' post='1679142'] For those interested, I emailed IE about the custom Xerograph: He said it would take 8 weeks to build and it would cost $495. [/quote] From a man waitin on a custom Xero (though different to Johns), I confirm this to be about right! (mine was a little less, though Johns is kinda 2 Xero's in one box!)

Today!! If you are in or near Bolton then come say hello!!

I used to have a Fafner... Sold it. Miss it. What I do musically now is very different and while I'm unsure if the Fafner will work for me and my set up I can't stop thinking that I miss it. If you have one and fancy an afternoon/evening at my studio talking bass and making noise then I will reward you with tea and any biscuit of you choice! Let me know Shep

[quote name='lxxwj' timestamp='1338597530' post='1677156'] If only I could get a clone or something.. Hmm. [/quote] Looked into it myself - part of the circuit/chip set is no longer made and folks can't find them - I assume why he stopped making them. Bugbrand still do a bug crusher, but it's more of a desktop unit than a pedal. I played with one and they are great sounding. I have a FrantaBit on the way now as IMHO it's the best bitcrusher available on the market today (The Geiger Counter is amazing, but is a distortion pedals with elements of bit crushing - as a pure crusher, the FrantBit is very special). If you can get a BugCrusher - don't ever sell it on!

Very rare these days. Not made anymore and seem they literally never come up for sale. Iron Ether Frantabit is the closest sounding I've heard recently.

The Xero makes sense... The high pass has the same controls as the low pass, but rather than taking everything out of the highs and allowing sub tones that swell up... It takes all the bass out, which I imagine sounds lo-fi and would allow swells down from super high tweeter sparkle into the sub. The crazy box - all I know is it's a square wave pedal - there are bits in the jams on the new Nerve live albums that I know are not coming from his other stuff and recognise the sound as distinctively square wave sonassume that's it. I asked Taylor at IE about it but he said it was the only one he made and Johns ha it so long he can't remember exactly how it worked... A new modern mystery of the world!

Cheers Si. Johns über cool set up is a wicked representation I what you can do with pretty much 50% of what I use. Man we need a synth player! Lol

Thanks as always to everyone for taking the time to read it. If you can share the link on social networking or other forums you all use it would be very much appreciated! Thanks again everyone

Oh, OK then... what about... PLEASE BE AWARE - MY WEBSITE IS NOW CLOSED. THE INTERVIEWS CAN NOW BE FOUND HERE -> [url="http://simonpoulton.tumblr.com/sheponbass"]http://simonpoulton.....com/sheponbass[/url] I really don't think John needs much of an introduction around these parts. Bunker Studios in NYC & Nerve. Nuff' said? Thought so... Enjoy! Shep

Another interview anyone?

[quote name='xgsjx' timestamp='1338327740' post='1672959'] Or a bass. [/quote] I could use a synth - but I'm a bass player god dammit and I will not leave the bass alone!!!!

As Si suggested - here is the sticky discussion thread: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/177691-the-old-do-i-really-need-effects-or-whats-the-point-in-effects-argument/"]http://basschat.co.u...fects-argument/[/url] Please continue discussion there rather than here...

Due to almost identical threads being started about 400 times a week ([i]slight over exaggeration...[/i]) and the same people giving the same answers it was suggested (thank you Si) that a sticky was made where the discussions can take place. I know this thread may become quite long but would urge anyone contributing to read it all to avoid covering the same ground (and you may find your point of view has been voiced and discussed already) over and over. As a summary, many non-effects users struggle to understand why bass players turn up to gigs with huge pedalboards and loads and loads of sounds at their disposal, when as a bass player they themselves have never 'needed' (or liked) the sound of anything but a good solid bass tone. This is often due to the musical styles played and I think it's fair for a gigging bassist to never 'need' or want to use pedals or effects... but then there are styles of music where different sounds, textures and effects make that genre what it is. As a bass player who is recording and gigging with an electronica project, I personally do not use a clean tone anywhere during the course of what I do - effects a vital to me and as much an instrument as the bass. With out my army of pedals I would struggle to make music that sits within this genre. [i]Importantly, as Basschat has a forum dedicated to effects with hundreds of daily users, it is quite clear that effects play a large part of many bass player's set ups.[/i] Here are a few of the recent threads on this topic... [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/168352-fxreally-need-them/"]FX...really need them?[/url] [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/166022-why/"]Why?[/url] [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/177660-i-have-a-good-bass-and-i-have-a-good-amp-why-do-i-need-a-pedal/"]I have a good bass and I have a good amp... Why do I need a pedal?[/url] [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/176638-why-do-so-many-bass-effects-sound-sooooo-bad-and-by-bad-i-dont-mean-good/"]Why do so many bass effects sound soooo bad? (and by 'bad' I don't mean good)[/url] Please continue the discussion in this thread and not on the threads above. Any new threads on the subject will be closed and linked to here to keep the discussion in one place. If you see a similar discussion start up in another part of the forum, please let me know, or link them to this thread. Shep. Discuss..................

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1338303868' post='1672415'] If you want to be trying to break new ground in the drum and bass/dubstep area then you have pretty much no choice... http://ourhelicalmind.bandcamp.com/album/analogftw-ep [/quote] Dude you make me blush! Yes this has been covered lots - at least 3 identical threads in the last month. That link contains music which is all live bass and live drums. I do NOT use a clean tone once during any of the recordings or live work... Effects are as much am instrument as the bass itself - in fact, in some tracks I force pedals to self oscilate and play them without touching the bass. For me I NEED them - and I too have a good bass and good amp. [quote name='phil.i.stein' timestamp='1338308781' post='1672514'] CHRIST, not again !!! can we please have a sticky topic for this-kind-of-thing Shep ??? Pleeeease... [/quote] Good idea. I'll search out all the threads on this topic and compile them and start a sticky... [quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1338309416' post='1672526'] Surely you would be breaking "new ground in the drum and bass/dubstep area" by NOT using shitloads of effects? [/quote] Can't argue with that! Though many guys are doing it with no pedals now - just a midi pickup and a laptop running ableton, so maybe it still isn't ground breaking...

Here is the old thread - [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/83076-introduce-your-band/page__hl__facebook%20page"]http://basschat.co.u...facebook%20page[/url] Boy how things have changed. I play bass for 2-piece Electronica/Brum&Bass/Dubstep/HipHop act, Our Helical Mind - everything created live without sequencers, samplers, decks or laptops - http://www.facebook.com/ourhelicalmind

I'll post it to ya mate for a tryout. Let me get the new recording out the way (may be useful to have when we hit the studio on the 9th) then I'll get it off to a few folks