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[quote name='Mikey R' timestamp='1335553567' post='1633195'] Shep, is yours this one? http://buzzelectronics.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=90&osCsid=7b5e257bc427319a4b781cdea103bf3e [/quote] Same size but mines the non-programmable version. Just a straight 8-way looper: http://buzzelectronics.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=28 (mine has in/out and power also on the back).

[quote name='Tom Brookes' timestamp='1335545453' post='1633022'] Good point.....I never think of compressors in that way when playing live (I used to use them as 'limiters' when I ran a recording studio though) Did you like the fact that I refered to you as 'the mighty Shep'? [/quote] It's about the only way I use a compressor these days! I feel honoured... Though not sure I'm all that 'mighty'

[quote name='Tom Brookes' timestamp='1335544222' post='1632997'] Do you really need a compressor? I've not used a Hot Hand with my bef, but can't really see how it would benefit as it tracks really well. I use a joyo dynamic compressor at the start of my signal chain (very cheap on ebay) purely to improve the tracking of my behringer bsy600 synth pedal. Without wanting to sound rude though, if you need it to even out your hammer ons etc then just do some more practice and save the cash! You may not need to use hammer ons either, slides should work fine. Check out some of Nathan Navarro's stuff and also read through the threads that the mighty Shep has posted above. I'm told that the Source Audio multiwave bass distortion goes very well with the BEF....... Happy Wubbing! [/quote] I may be wrong but I don't think the compressor is with tracking in mind. If you use lots of resonance on your filters those high frequencies can get seriously eat splitting. A compressor after them allows you to maintain a maximum volume level so as not to raise the roof and make ears bleed. I have a multi and compressor that is always on a low setting. For the majority of the set the meter never lights up as my volume if not hitting the threshold I have set. I play loud and don't want to get louder still. When I push the resonance up on the low pass filter I see the compressor start to light the -2db point Si I know it's taking just a tiny bit off the top to 'cap' my volume. If input an envelope filter on before the LPF the combined resonance is enough to make my compressor settings pull the signal down as much as 6 or 8db. If I turn the compressor off that combination of effects is ugly loud! Think of it more as a limiter. Not 'needed' but very useful when you are stacking effects!

All your suggestions look and sound great. Geiger Counter is massively versatile for the music you re looking at, but a good gated fuzz will get you a large array of the tones also (Mammoth, Mastotron, Brown Dog etc...). Have you played with the BEF & Hot hand much already? It's VERY different to using an expression with a Low Pass Filter like the IE Xero or the Moog LPF. If you haven't experienced it yet I'd suggest trying to try both options before investing. Neither are better for this genre of music - just very different. I would suggest looking at the [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/141357-live-dubstep/page__hl__dubstep"]'Live Dubstep'[/url] & The [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/72012-drum-n-bassdubstep/page__hl__dubstep"]'Drum N Bass/Dubstep'[/url] threads as many of your questions will likely already of been answered. As for compressor... while most will do the trick, I find a multi-band is quite important for this kind of music so it can keep those resonant high peaks in check without reducing the volume of the sub bass etc... I use a TC Nova Dynamics but have also used the EBS Multicomp to great effect.

[quote name='Mikey R' timestamp='1335523333' post='1632503'] I was looking at the Carl Martin ones with the DIP switches, Im not sure the Buzz ones are as programmable. Let me know as soon as you want to move it on, I might be interested. [/quote] Ah yeah - The Carl Martin one is very swish and has lots of options. It is pretty massive though (and not quite as switch as the GigRig Pro 8!). The Buzz one that I have is not programmable and was custom spec'd to have ALL inputs and outputs on the back (plus the enclosure is smaller than 90% of 5-way loopers) which makes it amazing for space saving, but you have to use compact jack plugs or you can't fit them all in! Buss do make a programmable version as well though it's not as feature rich as units like the Carl Martin (though it is a ton cheaper) and I think the programming is done on the inside so it's less tweak-able-friendly. I'll know if I'm moving mine on in the next week or two hopefully.

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[quote name='pietruszka' timestamp='1335296341' post='1628956'] 20?! Thats just a shop isn't it? Dan [/quote] They are as much the instrument I play as the bass is... in fact some of them can be played without the bass. If I hit serious financial issues though they do double as a shop for emergencies. (BTW- the 20 excludes bypass loopers, expression pedals and CV controllers!). [quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1335302614' post='1629117'] Big Dug is a killer track! [/quote] Thanks dude. There is s**t load going on in that track... I 'think' it uses more effects than any other track too (2 parallel effect loops, fuzz, envelope, low pass filter, delay, compression, bit crushing with LFO controlled Low Pass in the 'chorus' sections) -it's a minefield . That song is guilty of tap dancing and while it sounds pretty wicked it isn't that much fun to play as I have to press quite complex combinations of buttons in little time with great accuracy while playing in time... We do it live all that often - Just special occasions Where the OP is concerned... difference is that this is what I do. Synthesised music using a bass, in an analogue way. The board is a visual thing as much as the music is an audible thing. I spend hours and hours every week literally living and breathing my set up. If something sounds slightly off live I can identify the cause pretty easy. I can play with one hand and one foot while fixing cables with the other - I know as I've done it live! If you are going to use masses of stuff like that you NEED to put that kind of time and effort in. My set up is a case of lift the lid off, plug it in at the mains, one cable to the amp and one to the drum machine. It's a 30 second set up. If your guitarist wants to do that then tell him, if it ain't this tidy then he can go knickers: [IMG]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/pantherairsoft/Amp%20Cab%20Pedals/IMG_0521.jpg[/IMG]

[quote name='Mikey R' timestamp='1335474575' post='1631969'] Cheers Shep! Youve got me drooling over those 8 way loop switchers... [/quote] The Buzz Electronics ones? Real good for the money... Mine will be up for grabs soon as I'm 'hopefully' moving to a GigRig system.

[quote name='Mog' timestamp='1335472785' post='1631908'] I sure nobody would object to some fresh reading material tonight..... [/quote] Not until I have the pics! (ones on tour, ones waiting on a board re-arrangement & the other just hasn't sent any yet)

[quote name='rOB' timestamp='1335471603' post='1631860'] great idea for a series of interviews. Thanks for putting the work in and sharing with the rest of us. [/quote] Thanks buddy. I have another 3 back and written up ready waiting on photo's from the interviewees so the next one will be up as soon as I have the visuals (pedalboard shots mainly). [quote name='Mog' timestamp='1335471921' post='1631875'] Some great stuff in this already, looking forward to next installment. Any chance of getting this pinned? [/quote] It can be pinned... Though I waiting for the new BassChat Blog to go live (link at the top by the calendar/shop etc) to see if I can post them all there. Soon as I know how that software works and looks we'll see wether its better pinned here or not. Really excited to get more of these posted.

[quote name='EskimoBassist' timestamp='1335469309' post='1631810'] It looks PERFECT save for the digital artifact that many of them seem to suffer from. [/quote] I've never experienced it buy heard of a couple of others that have... Though it's a part of the 'stomp' (single band) compressor, which I wouldn't really use anyway. No one ever says anything but good stuff about the 'studio' mode - which is by far the best compressor I've ever had the pleasure of using.

TC Nova Dynamics in studio (3-band) mode is bloody lovely. Subtle. Transparent. Amazing. Shame it's discontinued

Cheers guys... Really looking forwards to it!

EBS stuff is typically bright. They are quite clean and hi-fi sounding. The Fafner is my favourite of the EBS range and while it has the classic EBS zing it does have a lovely drive channel and some great gritty tube warmth. Tonally the thing is a monster. It does weigh a fair bit and the little red lightbulb in it does have a habit of blowing (silly design... Not that it affects the performance!) but other than that it really is an amazing amp.

Mark deserves an extra special mention for the sheer amount of hassling and massive email bombardment I've thrown his way the last couple of weeks! Never anything than a gentleman and even made an effort to pretend I'm not annoying! Mark, you are a top top man! Shep

John bought a pedal off me. Easy transaction. Very happy. Thanks dude! Shep

Glad that helped. Tip 1 - read the manual The words are for a dual channel set up (dry/effect) and the labelling numbers are there to tell you which is priority in a mono set up. TBH I'm unsure how it managed to 'bypass' pedals before it, but I'm insane enough without spending too much time trying to figure that one out!!! I agree with the comment above. Personally I run dirt before modulation as the dirt adds new upper harmonics which the chorus and flange effects will then be applied too (makes them cut through better!). That said, if you've read any of my blog posts you'll see that I'm a big advocate of 'trying everything'! If it sounds right to you then that's right!! The synth Wah is likely best early in the chain, though worth noting that 90% of effects will say they work best first receiving a clean signal so don't take it as written. Octave effects tend to sound a little odd after dirt (IMO) though so maybe leave it where it is. Glad we sorted the issue!

Yeah. Rebel effects UK. The guys name is Vince. Too chap. Great builds too. Around £35-40 a clone. Both his Mammoth and his Soda Meiser are great - they are totally different fuzz's though!

So your saying signal can always he heard but when the way is bypassed other effects can not be heard (just the clean tone running through them?). 1stly make sure you are using the Out 1 (Dry) from the Bass Synth Wah. If you are then can you write your signal chain out for us (order of pedals).

[quote name='eude' timestamp='1335292290' post='1628832'] Wonderful news pal [/quote] :-)

Dual mono... That was ME using the wrong terminology I know this as we had a lengthy conversation at my studio on Sunday about this.

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' timestamp='1335287189' post='1628707'] When you say 'biamp', do you know what 'biamp' means? The compact is a full range cab an not suited to inclusion in a bi-amp rig. Anything that is suited to a bimap setup won't be suited to running with the compact with one head. [/quote] He's running a 2-rig stereo set up not a bi-amp set up. One rig is 'clean' the other rig is 'dirty'. Wrong terminology.