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Yeah, but the classic Moog shape is just too damn cool to do without In all honesty, I don’t need more than 25 keys… and the width is a bigger deal than the height for both home storage and stage space. In all honesty, the Sub25 is my perfect synth other than the number of patches. I think I’d be trading away too many positives to ‘upgrade’. Maybe I’ll just end up with a 37 as well one day

The only thing I really want are more patches for saving stuff too. The 25 is super limited in that front. Other features are good, but the smaller format and streamlined options are a bonus for me overall.

I may have made a mistake then. I was just going off what I’d seen discussed elsewhere. I thought Dec 24 was the last of the US batch and 25 onwards was overseas. It’s specifically models from Jan 25 that I had heard reports of QC issues, and the info above seems to support that. Mine is older (Feb 2021), and is flawless in terms of finish. To be fair, I’ve owned three Moogs over the years and they have hands down been the best made and perfectly finished synths I’ve had the pleasure of using. I also purchased a decksaver for my Subsequent 25 and it’s a perfect fit, so something definitely changed somewhere down the line.

I had a lined fretless, so didn’t really run into this too much. Unfortunately, we’re going back maybe 8 or 9 years, so I can’t really recall the specifics.

I used a GR-55 with the GK3B pickup on my old Zon Fretless with no issues at all. It was a fun system.

It is expensive, but given what you want to do, I think the Source Audio is by far the best option. It's a great pedal, very accurate, it's pretty small, and unlike a multi effect which will be larger and give you the temptation of loads of sounds you don't need, it just gives you exactly what you need, in troves. If you want to save some money, you could find a 2nd hand Source Audio SA-170, which is the first version of the EQ pedal. Not quite as feature rich, but will still do what you need.

Having arranged on of the very distant previous bass bash events… I’d rather just show up and enjoy the day

Any whispers of another midlands bass bash in the future?

In my experience, Alan at ACG makes some of the best medium scale basses in the world. For your £1000 ‘new’ budget, you can pick up a pretty decent spec ACG 2nd hand. In fact, there is one for sale on BC right now…

My first suggestion would be to slap a battery in it, disconnect the daisy chan from it, then check to see if the noise has gone away. I’d suggest this just to avoid buying a new power supply only to found out the pedal had some kind of fault. Boss pedals tend to play really nice on a daisy chain, so my gut tells me it’s another pedal causing the issue, even if it’s the Boss unit that’s presenting the noise. Assuming the battery does away with it, most isolated power supplies should work for you. Not all are created equal though, and some of the more expensive ones (like Cioks) really do an amazing job of filtering out noise and protecting against various issues, as well as being able to run each outlet at different voltages. That said though, many cheaper ones will do fine for you, especially if you don’t have a huge pedalboard or multiple different voltage requirements.

This is a super cool alternative to the other options out there. Decksaver do a few pedal options, and they are good, but they only cover a few key brands. Rockboard Pedalsafe is another option, but is, IMO, highly over engineered. I really like the simplicity of this design.

Yeah, that switch is marked expression assign! So it’s only picking the behaviour of the expression pedal. I’d assume that without a pedal, that switch does nothing. You absolutely should have an expression pedal! It brings so many effects to life!

Oh wow, I apparently have two feedback threads! Thanks all. If you need more convincing, the other thread is here:

Purchased Mike’s Aguilar Octamizer. Great comms, quick postage, well packed - couldn’t ask for more!

As I recall, and i only saw demos of the 6 knob, the in lvl works a bit more like a mix, in that it allows you to control how much bass signal hits the reverb, at one end you have no reverb at all, just clean, and at the other end, you have full reverb. It isn’t a mix though per se, as it maintains ‘trails’. So if you ramp up the decay of the reverb, you can swell it in as you play, then pull the pedal back to stop more reverb appearing as you keep playing over the decaying trails. Of course, I may have misunderstood that myself as it wasn’t a feature of the version I had.

If I recall, @ped used to rock the VB99 as his go to for quite some time and used to swear by it.

I think it’s an effect that, unless you’re doing solo ambient soundscapes, you have to use in a subtle way. And much like a good overdrive, you need to ‘tune’ it, tonally speaking, to your bass a bit more than other effects. It’s very easy to kill your tone in a mix, but get it right and it can be an incredible enhancer. I primarily use it in synth bass style tones (though I admittedly use short rhythmic delays more now), or on fretless. But a good sounding subtle reverb absolutely has its place!

Also a Subsequent 25. Modulation into delay into reverb. Nothing else that beast needs. The Canvas line injector serves some good utility - the effects here are stereo, so it gives me a stereo out to the desk, but also lets me sum to mono via the thru for on stage monitoring or if I just need to rehearse with a bass amp. I use this on the tabletop next to the synth, not on the floor.

How are you finding it? I had the original 5 knob version, and it's hands down my second favourite sounding reverb on bass (and way more versatile than my first pick - Neunaber Wet, which just sounds epic). I was really tempted by this newer version, but the cost just felt a bit too prohibitive.

I have them both comfortably, both mounted with Cioks Grips on a Jr Max, but they also fit on my Classic 1 as long as you are careful with the placement (need to allow for the power lead, which needs a bit more room). I wouldn't want to use them both together underneath anything 22", as it'll get a bit cramped when you have cables connected to both sides of both units. I previously used GigRig, which I also liked, but I have a couple of cable failures and as I swap my board about a lot, I found I kept needing to buy more cables as I always wanted them at the perfect length. Cioks performance was just as good, but way less hassle. I also have a small PT Nano that I use with my Moog synth and that is powered by a Cioks SOL, which is just as good. I can't imagine ever needing another power supply.

I’ve used digital pedals with a touch of latency, sure, but it’s certainly not a ‘norm’ in my experience. I find most modern digital kit has no discernible latency (note ‘most’). The OC5, in my set up at least, has absolutely no sign of it. I’d think it was an OC2. To be fair, even in poly mode, the latency is barely noticeable. Only really when the filter is rolled back to its ‘lowest’ processing stage. I had a similar latency blip with the Eventide Pitchfactor’s octave when a heavy filter is applied. I can’t think of any other digital pedals I own that have any sign of latency at all, though admittedly all the digital stuff I own is fairly modern (no more than a couple of years since design).

I have this set up on my main board (DC7 and 8 expander), works like a charm.