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Pre amp / Power amp set up questions
pantherairsoft replied to pantherairsoft's topic in Amps and Cabs
[quote name='alexclaber' timestamp='1319309102' post='1412638']Make sure you mark which end is which: We use 4-pole at the amp end and 2-pole on the cab end of bridging cables to avoid mistakes![/quote] Yeah - bright green electrical tape around the cable at the amp end. It'll likely stay connected to the amp end within the amps case anyway. I assume the +1 remains connected to +1 via one core, then the -1 is connected to +2 via the other? One question I haven't found an answer to is that the pre I have been looking at has 2 outputs labeled L and R. Should I just take the TRS-XLR from one side to the channel 1 input of the power amp, or should I use a splitter which is wired 2x TRS - XLR so L & R run into the one channel, or - will it make little difference Shep -
Post your pedal board - Basschat style!!
pantherairsoft replied to dudewheresmybass's topic in Effects
Yeah - i'll take that back if it collapses on it's 1st gig! -
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Post your pedal board - Basschat style!!
pantherairsoft replied to dudewheresmybass's topic in Effects
Thats a great board for a DIY job. Seriously seriously impressive mate! You could start selling them to the BC community. -
Pre amp / Power amp set up questions
pantherairsoft replied to pantherairsoft's topic in Amps and Cabs
I have just finished rewiring a speakon as described. +1/-1 at the cab and, +1/+2 at the amp end. I think my initial confusion was trying to decipher the manuals at 1am in the morning! Thankfully I own 4 Speakon-Speakon leads, all with NL4 connectors so it was easy to change around. Shep -
Pre amp / Power amp set up questions
pantherairsoft replied to pantherairsoft's topic in Amps and Cabs
Cheers bud! I'd already had 1,2 & 3 answered and your answers confirm my conclusions... Shep -
Most EBS stuff is very loud for it's power rating. The Drome IMHO was one of the best amps they ever made. Was it the Drome or the Neo Drome you used? Sad thing is they don't make them anymore and pretty much no one has any left (Bernie @ GB Basses may still have one though...). They have since released the Drome Classic, which I was a little less inspired by the tone from, but still holds itself as a decent combo.
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Yeah this is a tad outdated. Half of whats in the thread is no more. In fact, my ride as a bassist since starting this thread has changed soooooooo much. I never thought when I started this thread as a rock bassist, that I'd be playing live drum & bass in nightclubs by now!! What do I currently use... I own 2 basses now- Roscoe Century Signature 6 Fretted & Roscoe Century 3006 Fretless I also own a D'Armond Ashbory (strung with Pahoehoe Uke' strings), that is used mainly at home, but sometimes in the studio for upright tones, although most such tones come from the Roscoe fretless these days. Rig wise- Barefaced Big Twin T, driven by an EBS 1v2 Pre and Crown XTi 1000 [IMG]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/pantherairsoft/Amp%20Cab%20Pedals/c87580c2.jpg[/IMG] At home I now have an SWR WorkingMans 10 combo for practice use, and the photo above shows the expanse of my current pedal set up. I'm waiting to have my new custom board all set up before posting anymore pedalboard pics though... Thats about it. I've had a huge clear out to fund some of the custom items I use and so literally EVERYTHING else that has appeared in this thread has moved on. Most of them to other members of the BassChat community. Shep
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Pre amp / Power amp set up questions
pantherairsoft replied to pantherairsoft's topic in Amps and Cabs
'inefficient' was in ' ' marks as it was a sarcastic comment. I've never used a cab with such immense sensitivity and output. I don't actually consider it remotely inefficient -
Pre amp / Power amp set up questions
pantherairsoft replied to pantherairsoft's topic in Amps and Cabs
Thanks for your input. I'm not generating regular bass tones etc... I'm generating huge boosts at 40-50hz similiat to that of PA subs. In fact what I do really is PA related. 1000w plus is totally needed. Boosting 50hz at 3db doubles the power requirement. My EBS amp head is clipping at the output stage causin audible distortion due to the huge 6.5ft wide effects chain which is being fed into it and the huge array of frequencies and sub it's needed to generate. I've spent some time at a local venue and borrowed a power amp to try out a few things and the huge increase in headroom sorts out everything. My application is quite specific and if I was playing 'bass' at any point I'd agree with your statement above, but really I'm a synth player. I do use a 'inefficient' Barefaced cab. This is the only cab which exploits the whole frequency spectrum of what I do as most cabs do not accurately produce 40-50hz in the same way as a PA sub, as most bassists wouldn't want that to muddy their sound - I do. The Big Twin has 2 low passed speakers that love 40hz! It reacts like a PA sub & top in 1 box, which is what I need, not a bass rig. As for buying gear I don't know how to use!? Everyone starts somewhere dude. I know how to use the functions etc, I'm just asking for clarification on some points that are. It accurately covered in most power amp manuals from other players that already use similar setups. Most of my questions have been answered helpfully by PM now anyway and I've used said answers to research further. I'm not in the habit of taking the advice of 'virtual friends' as gospel, but I figure that is kinda the point in a resource like BassChat! Shep -
Hey folks. Venturing into my 1st pre & power set up. Manuals are rather techy so for those of you using set ups like this I wonder if you can answer the following questions... [b]1...[/b] Preamp has L/R outputs Jack only that can run in either mono or stereo Poweramp has L/R XLR inputs The power amp will be using in 'Bridged Mono' mode... so... I assume I have to connect left & right (to bridge them) rather than just one side of the setup (for regular mono)? Also, would the best connection be a Stereo (TRS) jack to XLR? [b]2...[/b] Power amp I'm looking at is the Crown XTi 1000 - [url="http://www.crownaudio.com/pdf/amps/139548.pdf"]http://www.crownaudi...amps/139548.pdf[/url] - I find much of what it says a little confusing regarding the Speakon outputs to the speaker. Should I be using 2-core, or 4-core cabling? I currently own a number of 2-core cables (but with Neutrik 4-pole plugs on) from both AudioSpares & Piranha. The diagrams seem to imply 2-core is fine, but the text implies it needs to be 4-core. Can anyone better minded in such things help? [b]3...[/b] If I use a pre amp that only has a single output, can the power amp still be used in Bridge mono mode (can you bridge channels without an incoming signal to each?) [b]4...[/b] I've read in places that when running an amp in bridge mono mode you have to specially wire a speakon lead differently at the amp end than the typical wiring that will be at the cab end... Is this correct? Shep
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Just bought it home from work in a friends car - It just fit. Unloaded its about as heavy as I can comfortably manage on a 1 hand carry. Loaded it will be strictly a 2 person lift up and down stairs!
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Good point! External dimensions measure 47 x 23 x 9.5" I actually could just about fit in it
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It's arrived! Wow it's huge. What have I done! Lol
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I considered a gigrig switcher - but i use and tweak pretty much all my pedals live and to be honest it works out better for me without. They are VERY good though and help simplify most setups. Very excited to get this board now!
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[quote name='cheddatom' timestamp='1319108140' post='1409934'] cheers, that's dead handy Now if only I could get a lift installed in my studio [/quote] Ditto!!
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Picked it up on eBay. £18 plus £7 shipping. Folds flat, weighs next to nothing and has an 80kg load limit. Have been using with the Diago boards & our drum hardware case for the last few gigs. Perfect. You can get them from place like screw fix/machine Mart etc, but much cheaper online.
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Mal wont put them in a board. He's experienced structural issues with them and they increase costs a fair bit. His suggestion is to buy a foldable sack trolley with pneumatic wheels, which will be far better than casters etc on a board. I have done this - its very well made and cost £25! Shep
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Lol. No fancy lights etc. There are enough LED's flashing on the board to illuminate most cities anyway. There's space under the bridge to add lighting though (and a little space for future expansion ). The retractable seat! Damn. That would of been a good idea. A drum stool will need to surfice It will be heavy. Close to that of a heavy ish cab. We estimate 26-28kg fully loaded. I have a collapsible trolly for it though. Despite its weight, it'll still be more suitable than using 2 boards of almost the same size. Its one journey up and down stairs rather than 2 for a start. Si will tell you... Our studio is hardly in a suitable place for my set up!
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A custom build from Mal Chapman of GR cases - He build most of the custom board for GigRig customers that have the huge switching systems as well as for some complex set ups for big touring musicians. Its a huge 45" x 22" 2 tier board, built around a specific layout for my effects, powering etc etc.
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New board is finished and on its way to me. Exciting times.!
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Just doing my job. I'm not condoning people doing nasty things to guitarists... I actually missed that post, but more importantly if anyone is offended by it, they have not spoke up, unlike people that are offended by people killing cats... Who have spoken up in number. Either way, it doesn't need discussing or dragging on. I've edited the posts. The thread is about uses for old strings, not hurting cats or guitarists. If you think too PC then PM me and we can discuss further. Cheers chaps P.S. what's wrong with daytime BBC programming!?
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[quote name='stingrayPete1977' timestamp='1318759588' post='1405773']I thought us bass players were the biggest geeks until some one mentioned Warhammer [/quote] Yeah sorry about that.
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SOLD: Genz Benz Shuttle 9 - NEW PRICE DROP
pantherairsoft replied to Linus27's topic in Amps and Cabs For Sale
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Folks - all references to hurting cats have been removed after multiple reports have been submitted to the mods. Seems there are lots of animal lovers on Basschat... so lets please keep the animal cruelty out of it. On a serious note though, a good friend of mine is one of the sculptors at Games Workshop. I give him all my used bass strings and they end up on the master models for Warhammer 40k bits of bobs as pipes and cables. You can likely see some of my old strings on Space Marine Dreadnoughts connecting all the arms/weapons/legs etc etc: http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod20021a&_requestid=1707930 Not exactly practical for the most of us - but it's certainly a use!