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[quote name='citymariner' timestamp='1318020927' post='1397468'] It built up a grand suspense to a grand looking cab! Just a (possibly naive) thought, how would you mic a cab like this? Would you need three mics and three different mics for the different types of driver? CM[/quote] That would certainly be where I'd start - though obviously phase becomes an issue. For recording I used to use 3 mics on my EBS212 - 2 different mics on a speaker and one on the tweeter. Takes some real care to get them exactly right but worth the effort. I'd suggest 4 mics on this cab if I can get the engineer to go that far (one on the low passed 12, one on the full range 12, one on the mid driver & one on the tweeter) then blend the 4 sounds. Given the overall phase of the cab I'd also be interested in trying just a room mic and a DI blend... As for live... I'll let the venue engineer figure that out. I assume most will Just DI and let the cab do it's thing. Pic from the rehearsal room tonight - [IMG]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/pantherairsoft/Amp%20Cab%20Pedals/24ae5f40.jpg[/IMG]

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1317940978' post='1396622'] You need to get a gig down here so I can hear you live mate [/quote] One day - it's an expensive journey and I have zero contacts amongst drum & bass/Dubstep promoters down there. Tough finding a gig that far away without taking a huge hit to play the show. [quote name='phil.i.stein' timestamp='1317945336' post='1396663'] nice one Shep. cab envy. i love my compact/midget-t set-up, but for dub etc., that sounds like the one ! a Genz-Benz amp should be your next move.. [/quote] A Genz Shuttle 9 was next on my list. The initial maths said that the cab Would give me a clear 3db boost in the subs with my HD350, but If I can feed it with 900-1000w then I'll get 10db more sub. Fact is though, 3db is a hell of a lot when it's clear at 40hz and being able to reproduce the boost at 50hz upto 12db without the amp seeming to struggle at all, I think I'm sticking with the HD350. The bright control on the amp is great for tweaking what comes out the tweeter on stage as well...

Awesome. Ironically I intended my post to be a 'look at my new toy' kind of post - unfortunately I rambled on so much it became a review. I'll do a full review after it's annihilated the Nottingham Playhouse on the the 16th!

I'll give you that Si. I heard Si's set up with him doing stuff not too dissimilar to what I do and it was the reason I investigated the Barefaced option! Right move. [quote name='burno70' timestamp='1317856299' post='1395607']I'd love to hear that in the flesh - sounds awesome - and I bet your also stoked at the weight? Hurry up and do a tour up north so we can check it (and your band) out![/quote] The weight is pretty much the same as the EBS can, which is remarkable due to it being about 40-50% taller. Weight has become more of an issue being we're a 2-piece (let's not mention the weight in the pedalboard though!!!). Watch this space for tour dates etc. We're working on it.

It's a different kettl of fish to the Super 12 T. It goes much deeper. It is obviously not as articulate in other ways though. The cab is ideally suited to my needs though. It performs like a sub and a PA top in on box.

[quote name='dood' timestamp='1317847892' post='1395483'] Hey Shep! Great review! Think I'm gonna need to hear one of these myself! [/quote] I have had a play without my effects setup - bass to amp, with a 'regular' EQ and I can confirm it does kick some serious ass with regards to regular bass sounds - Similar to an 8x10 but with more low end (to my ears). But the fact that it can reproduce such low frequencies so well is a winner with me (although something that most bassists wouldn't want! ) while still producing the high fizz needed for my sound.

This week was a good week. A Barefaced Big Twin T arrived. This is a beast of a cab and I've made the move from a very very lovely EBS Neo212 to this in order to expand the low end in my stage sound. Moving from the EBS cab has been hard - It's the nicest sounding cab I'd ever used and for all 'general' bass duties I honestly think it's the best that money can buy! Things have changed in my musical life now though and I find myself needing something very unconventional cab-wise. I play live Drum & Bass, Dubstep & Electronica. You could consider me more of a synth player than a bass player in many ways, although everything comes from my Roscoe (No keys & no computer). I find the sounds I need to exploit are well amplified low sub and less of an emphasis on the 'full range' cab sound. I do, however need tweeter highs for my top end swell stuff. Usually I DI into a club PA and its fine, but more and more bars are doinf this kind of music and these gigs are more regular than clubs - many of these venues do not have great PA's and so supporting my own sound has become important. I have been investigating moving to PA cabs - A sub & a bottom - but have been totally put off by the weight this entails. My mission was to find a speaker system that can amplify 40-50hz to the same volumes as the mid range without it becoming a muddy rumble. Something that pretty much no bass cabs do well. Then, a few weeks ago at the Surrey bass bash I saw mcgraham play though a Barefaced Big Twin in the jam room. he gently played a low B with his thumb and I felt sick in my stomach with the amount of bass shaking my insides! So - A Big Twin T was ordered, its a 2x12 cab, plus a midrange driver (with 2 volume presets) and a tweeter as well as a huge amount of porting for some serious air movement. The bottom of the two 12 inch speakers is low pass filtered, so that it constantly runs low and doesn't 'waste' power trying to reproduce a full range of sound - much like a scaled down PA sub. Yes folks, this is a bass cab designed to go as low as (and be usable musically) at 21hz!!! The results... My god it's huge! Running the same EQ settings I usually do and at out usual rehearsal/stage volumes the cab sounds (to my ears) at least 25-30% louder and the bottom end was literally making my feet vibrate whilst still being clear. I was running my EBS HD350 at around 4 on the volume to reach the kind of live volumes I use! More interestingly still, this cab has proven my EBS HD350 to be the ideal amp for what I do. The 'mid' EQ on the HD350 has a selectable frequency. This goes very high, and as low as 50hz. This is done as there is a notch filter option so you can use it to filter out untidy artefacts of 50hz which most cabs can't reproduce - the Big Twin however can! By selecting the 50hz frequency and boosting the 'Mid' instead of the the bass, there it is - huge, earth moving, pure, clean 40-50hz sub. I tried this same thing (boosting the 50hz) with the EBS Neo 212 cab but it couldn't articulate the frequency so I assumed it was included purely for the notch filter (there was more bass, but undefined). HD350 + Barefaced = Drum & Bass dreams!!! The cab has a lot less in the top end than the EBS did (what cabs don't!), with the tweeter on 75% and the mid driver on 'high' I have reproduced the same highs I used to get from the EBS cab with the tweeter on 30%, however I think it just sounds quieter in the top end due to the gale force sub-wind coming through those ports!! This is one killer cab. I'll get more pics next time I'm at the studio, just a quick picture taken on my iPhone upon arrival... I've done one rehearsal and both me and my partner in music agree - this is sounding like a massively positive move. I'll do a little more in depth review work when I have a few more rehearsals underway, and I have a gig to play with this on the 16th so watch this space. Shep

Did a deal with Tim. He went out of his way to catch a train over to Nottingham and do the deal. Nice chap. Had a good chat about music. Honest and trustworthy. Deal with confidence. Cheers dude! Shep

Not wrong! Watch this space for the Nottingham gig details...

My signature, now with Black Beauties... [IMG]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h44/pantherairsoft/Roscoe%20Century%20Signature%206/619a304d.jpg[/IMG]

Will do! Hoping to hook up with The Broken Door for some more shows. The venue asked us back to play their big May Bank Holiday show next year, but hopefully we'll be back before then! Shep

I think last nights gig solved this one for me. In my head what I was expecting to hear where the 2 defined sounds from channel A & B - this is realistically impossible without 2 outputs to 2 amps or similar. What it actualt does, obviously, is blend the 2 sounds, creating a mix - this evidently provides a slight tone shift as you are hearing a mix of the 2 tones. Simple really!

[quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1317502530' post='1391417'] You are, of course, totally correct. [/quote] Obviously!

[quote name='mike257' timestamp='1317387182' post='1390204'] Just listening now - sounds great. Friend of a friend is in a dubstep band called The Corinthians here in Liverpool, I'll link him your stuff - sure he could point you towards some promoters/nights you could approach over this way. [/quote] Cheers bud! Sounds great. Glad you like the stuff.

[quote name='RhysP' timestamp='1317488995' post='1391256'] Mods - can you move this to "Miscellaneous Equipment & Accessories" (or where you feel is most appropriate) please? Tried to delete it but there doesn't appear to be a delete function anymore. Ta! [/quote] Moved for you There never was a delete function for threads. You can delete any replies you make (Next to edit & multiquote) but deleting topics and threads has always been a mods job

And one more... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7Vyw8thl-A&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/media] AWESOME night.

And some more... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjKmy858J2g&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzNrm_2r9Ck&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/media]

Some live vid from last nights show in Bolton. The bass has not come out great, although in traditional YouTube style, the worse your speaker the better it sounds!! Good home stereo out, laptop speakers in! [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkYDaECk3x4&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/media] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N08vMqH24Ok&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/media] Some of the above were tracks we had written, most of it was improvised on the spot though. The gig was a bit mental as our 30-40 minute support slot turned into and hour an a quarter of mayhem. 1st time, as a support band that we've had an encore! Shep