woodyratm

Thanks for the advise folks. The guitarist is looking to kill the band since him and I wrote the songs and music. We pretty much did the drum parts too more or less. What i'm thinking is - Get a practice on the go - see if there's many mistakes and try and book another practice to sort said mistakes. I want to try and get him to agree to practice more. He does have an electric kit too but its not really as responsive as we'd like (so it sounds out of time) - Wonder if theres a way of changing the sensitivity/latency... If he can pull it together I'd rather keep him. It's really irritating since I do gel really well with him.

[quote name='steve-bbb' timestamp='1326790333' post='1501837'] [url="http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/nowplaying/DR55.jpg"]http://www.bbc.co.uk...laying/DR55.jpg[/url] [/quote] Hah i was thinking of just programming the drums and having them out the PA. we're thinking we might just kill the band - then reform with another name (sadly!) in a few months time. If drummer doesn't get his act together. All these suggestions are great, but he's the kinda guy who will be totally upset by this. It may be cowardly but at least it keeps him from being totally destroyed

That blows

[quote name='guildbass' timestamp='1326757774' post='1501719'] it's a nightmare. I think your mate is in the band cuz it's cool to be in a band...he's clearly a tad narcissistic. If the music mattered to him he'd be trying to improve all the time. you are going to struggle to get him to put any more drum time in because he doesn't think he needs it...Either that or he doesn't care enough about you guys to be arsed...Lets assume the first one... He's going to have to lose some preening time and use it to practise... He needs to get one of those electric kits and some phones. You could try a ploy...Do you know anyone who could do a half decent 'live' recording for you?...You know, set up some mics and get the tracks down onto disc... if yes then arrange a room and see if you can't borrow a decent drummer for the early part of the evening... Put the track down with the good guy, and then when your chap gets there at 10 or whatever, do the track again with him. Let him know you want to record and let him know because he can't be there you are borrowing the other guy just to fill in. Hopefully, when he hears the two versions he'll realise and then he'll decide whether he can afford to give up some gym time...or not. The thing is, to retain a mate, HE has to decide so YOU have to manipulate the situation until he is unable NOT to see the issues... [/quote] hah i quite like this idea, albiet it seems underhand but sod it. it might be the wake up call he needs...

So should i just continue playing with a drummer who falls out of time etc? He's not wanting to stop the band. I just wish he'd practice more

Just when i thought the band saga had came to an end, the drummer throws a spanner in the works! He's a total gym buff (so goes several times a week) and is now doing pole dancing (srsly!) and is starting yoga and a martial art. Myself and the guitarist were worried he would be commited and make booking practices near impossible. I spoke to drummer tonight and he's assured me he'd make them. IF they were about 9/10 at night or after 5 on weekends. I should add that he does NOT practice on his own.. Myself and the guitarist attempt to practice for a few hours each night with the songs to learn them and learn what we're doing. Drummer does not. Soooooo i say to guitarist that drummer should be willing to practice more and improve.. I got this reply. "I know this whole drummer thing is kinda harsh but I'm feeling now I have to be happy and enjoy music to play in a band. I guess I got worn down by the constant fails onstage and we had before. I had too much on my plate and I'm more than happy to admit it, hence me stopping singing/simplifying what I do to the point it's at now and sorting myself out/rediscovering my inspiration and love of my guitar. I just don't know if I can handle another gig with the end of a song failing and overshooting/dropped sticks/missing a beat/going out of time/losing concentration and no effort being made to sort it out in practice, if at all. I mean I'll give him benefit of the doubt cos he's obvs one of my best mates, as you obviously are too, but I'm not really up for embarrassment onstage anymore. I mean...we'll have some badass tunes, and they deserve to be played to their utmost and appreciated. I'm happy he's stoked...but that's never really made much of a difference before, what's going to different now?" I kinda agree... But this a drummer whos one of my closest mates and i've known for years. The stuff we do is to a click and needs the drums in time. Anyone got any ideas what i should do? Feel like a middle man and its pretty stressful! Rant over!

[quote name='AttitudeCastle' timestamp='1326747373' post='1501550'] If you wouldn't mind me being there and If i can make it (depends on day and time like!) i'd be honoured [/quote] Course dude - it'd be an evening or weekend. When its collected - think i'll head straight to toms. Join me then too if you like. You doing moffat?

[quote name='AttitudeCastle' timestamp='1326739068' post='1501359'] What do you mean god now!? He already was in my eyes haha! I have three basses planned out already, just need money ha! Looks cracking mate i hope to see/and hear her! [/quote] Hah you coming with to collect her?

Want. Also like the look of the starcloth.

Ohhhhh Lasers....

[quote name='waynepunkdude' timestamp='1326722817' post='1500971'] 4 of them, it's a car. [/quote]

back seats flat and passenger seat right forward (with the tilt forward too) Would probs just fit!

[quote name='Prime_BASS' timestamp='1326712134' post='1500703'] question is cost? G.A.S central right now. [/quote] Not as much as you'd think! Best bet would be to give a luthier a shout. Rich is VERY reasonable with his prices. His attention to detail is great and he's kept me up to date through the whole process. Even when we encountered issues.

[quote name='eude' timestamp='1326709749' post='1500656'] Reckon you'll have this by Moffat mate? [/quote] Yup! Rich is working late into the nights now. Which I'm uber thankful for! Mans a god now

actually.... [IMG]http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d67/ou7shined/Osprey%20Guitars/Woodyratm/woody-35.jpg[/IMG]

Thanks guys - I'll upload more pictures with the paint hopefully this week. We've also decided to change the pickguard shape...

Ou7shined - quality of work is second to none.

My lakland dj 4 is slim. Its great!

Woah.

also click and get him to practice just with you on your own.

How to train your drummer? With a water pistol and food. If he plays in time he gets a snack - if not he gets a spritz in the face. they have to learn somehow.