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Your rig is your rig and I wouldn't go looking for that same sound from other kit as a 1st requirement..you'll need to be more open-minded. I'll go as far as to say this...if your bass sounds good...then most set-up should be capable of reproducing that to a dgree ..it is when you fight things that you get the problems and need that perfect match.

OR..covers bands are multi faceted trubutes acts..?? If the band is any good...it should all work through unless they are doing something wrong, by which time..the venue will have given up on them anyway.

There are also one or two places that have an audience themselves and people will go there as the landlord has painstakingly accrued the bands he likes and that keeps the standard up..generally. People will go to these places on spec as the bands are known to be good, so will take a chance on unknown/unseen..but they are hard places for bands to get into, of course. But if you do that.... you'll get good expeosure.

They are expected to pull... most landlords will want you to bring 20 odd people minimum to complement what they already have that night to make it work. One or two of the tougher landlords only give you one date and review it from there...so he is obviously expecting you to shape up. But then again, this is not exclusive to cover bands... The venue needs to sell on the back of the draw...either alcohol or whatever, nobody does it much for artistic reasons. Lets not kid ourselves

[quote name='Doddy' post='1182619' date='Mar 30 2011, 07:27 PM']I'm digging that Bromberg clip.....I'd not see that before.[/quote] yes...got to say out of all the examples there, that is the style I lean to I like it spikey and spitting ha ha !!

No problem..I knew where to look, pretty much, for tasters. Let us know how you get on and what you are working on and which style is a bit of an influence. I say 'bit' as I would nick bits from as many of these as poss...but I do have in mind a style/sound as an overall end game.

I think it is a fine line between playing a set that you haven't heard a zillion other bands do and one that can still get the people in. Of course, there are reasons people play some of the really 'popular' songs, and I mean popular with the bands themselves. The songs are easy to mimic _ due the song and the playing parts ..and are well known..so you aren't really hammering either party with much of an effort outside of playing them. Most local bands might be bass, drums and gtr with vocals..which is pretty limiting itself with the songs you can attempt. Get two gtrs in the mix and you can have a fight over who plays what... and it takes very good players to dovetail their parts which is effort in a rehearsal situation that you might not put in..or have time to. Even gtrs and keys get in the way of each other at times..unless you make the effort not to, IMO. I guess I don't blame people for playing populist sets...but would prefer a band to think about it abit more, myself. If you pick a James Taylor song, for instance, that might be a classic... how would you approach it.. or be able to approach it? I like bands who like to play songs they like rather than be the same act as the others as that is what packs them in...as I said, fine line. If there was a most popular set compiled by posters on here, I wonder what % of the numbers people here would play. I find that some pubs/venues are a bit more discerning..for want of a better world, than others so you can put in a Talking Heads number and get away with it... possibly.

Still want to see the hot backup singer in THAT video

Maybe a more modern take on it [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrRVLZ-imSA"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrRVLZ-imSA[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LAFdptmhJg&playnext=1&list=PLCD990AE4E0E939EE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LAFdptmhJg...D990AE4E0E939EE[/url] Hopefully some others will post things with a different slant on it..

In reply to this thread I went looking for various styles.... and it took a basics lesson to realise that I don't hammer off that much.. and if you look at Louis Johnson..he never seems to Anyway... slap has evolved...upto to you which way you are influenced but a few tasters. Not getting into an argument about who is the man..just directions that the style might be going [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkOYGlI-zoo"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkOYGlI-zoo[/url] Mark King clone [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOTy3yhCylw&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOTy3yhCylw...feature=related[/url] Check out a range of style and licks from this guy [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfC-PMN6DK0&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfC-PMN6DK0...feature=related[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsKdhUoP01E"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsKdhUoP01E[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgZsiHESwhc&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgZsiHESwhc...feature=related[/url] [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK5IFyo0k0Q&feature=related"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK5IFyo0k0Q...feature=related[/url] Not exhaustive by any means ...but when people start talking about slap..these names pop up pretty quickly. Forget the music genre.. and mostly, pretty dated styles bar Caron, but anything of interest..??

Looks interesting prices for the RH750, anyone..??

Transaction arrived in very good time and very well packed. Gilles knows what he is doing and will make the deal as smooth as possible. Top guy to deal with.

Not needed to do mine yet..

lots of nice looking jazzes.... [attachment=75982:SEI_J5_RW.jpg] [attachment=75981:SEI_J5_Maple.jpg]

but...... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb-wk7dhnrc"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sb-wk7dhnrc[/url]

[quote name='Doddy' post='1178801' date='Mar 27 2011, 09:26 PM']The Slap Bass Program by Alexis Sklarevski.[/quote] hmmm... this was ok when it came out and as an instructional video he puts things across well but I think this approach or style is very dated now. If you can see through this and use the basics and then find another influence that would be the way to go IMV. You need blocks and stepping stones. Slap has many styles within the style now... IMV...for starters and very generally Flea is all fast octaves, for example. MK is LH pat triplets Louis J is all thumb hammer-ons MM has probably consolidated most things and brought it all together And there are loads of others who put their spin on it and sound AND feel great. You should be looking at more than one guy and if you want to play slap, Flea isn't the only place you should you should rip from, IMO. If you want to see who is out there doing what... google 'youtube dkmarlow' and go with as many examples of OTHER slap players online and see which sound/style grabs you. To look at just one guy is pretty limiting and more so if that guy is Flea. here we go again

[quote name='Jobo Pooks' post='1169253' date='Mar 20 2011, 11:15 AM']In a lot of cases, name is spot on because you have your loyal fans who will listen to their hero deteriorate over the years and still give rave reviews out of that sense of loyalty. There have been lots of very famous names over the years who have brilliant studio albums, but very poor live performance, but the disciples seem to be f*****ng deaf! [/quote] To get back on track, this is kind of what I was thinking of...but I am saying some of these people where never that/any good in the first place so they never fell from a great height, they were just very lucky to be in the right place, right time. So when these guys still try and get out and gig, some people are impressed with a 'name' that played with such and such when the reality is they wouldn't bat an eyelid otherwise. It is just people conceptions that seemed so easily influenced. I am not talking about the superstar session sidemen mentioned here.. I am talking (typically ) about the guys who happened to get on the bandwagon when say, scenes, cropped up, and eveyone from that town/city was able to fly on the coatails of the vanguard act. Noteable scenes off the top of my head would be..err..Sheffield, Manchester, Liverpool, Canterbury and maybe the blues scene in London in the 60's. Bands and players may have been elevated from these scenes by virtue of association rather than anything else..???

[quote name='Bilbo' post='1179550' date='Mar 28 2011, 02:32 PM']Anthony Jackson - bass guitar Naná Vasconcelos - percussion Michael Brecker - tenor saxophone Randy Brecker - trumpet These are the ones I have seen live. But, in truth, nobody cares. Its a list. What matters is the delivery of the 'I know someone who....' bit; the reflected glory. The fact that truckloads of session musicians played on such and such an LP is a given. It happened everyday in that era. Its the fact that 'someone we knoe was there' that gives the story life. We (this is not a personal attack and we can all be accused of it. I know I can) feel the need to wave stuff about as a badge of honour. Study music not musicians and trivia - it matters not and contributes nothing towards our development as players.[/quote] Not sure.. I can be as tiring and cynical as most, but this happend to be a fave album for me, so when...this guy mentioned he played on it in the grand scheme of waffling...me that is, as I do it a lot..., it got me thinking...and as it happened I could recall alot of the key players so was interested in what he thought about the guys he was probably in the studio with. He was suitably discreet ... He had loads of little stories about late night jazz clubs and who played there...and then we talked about golf. Not really relevant to the topic, and I am not going to name the person as he isn't a friend..just someone I know off and was talking to. He liked my bass and we got chatting.. To me it is just a story ... but I must admit to being impressed this guy could play at that level, I don't expect others to be...it was just a natter. He seemed an average guy..talked football, golf and music..whats not to like..

[quote name='SteveK' post='1179493' date='Mar 28 2011, 01:54 PM']..... I experience nearly every day people talking [b]enthusiastically[/b] about the [i]when, how and who[/i] of music. There's certainly no point scoring involved. I'm a musician, but I'm not [i]just[/i] interested in becoming a better player, I'm also interested in the trivia, who played on what, where and how, because I'm a fan of music.[/quote] A person I know played on a Chaka Khan classic album and lived in New York at the time. I was fascinated about the players I knew who were on that album ( it is a real favourite ) and little anecdotes he was able to mention about what was a pretty heavy music scene at the time. On that album were Mark Stevens - backing vocals, bass guitar Cissy Houston - backing vocals Whitney Houston - backing vocals Charlotte Crossley - backing vocals Luther Vandross - backing vocals Ullanda McCullough - backing vocals Anthony Jackson - bass guitar Willie Weeks - bass Marcus Miller - bass Jeff Mironov - guitar, sitar solo trk 3 Hamish Stuart - guitar, backing vocals Hiram Bullock - guitar solo trk 1, 2, 6 Phil Upchurch - guitar, guitar solo trk 3 Steve Khan - guitar Arthur Jerkins - percussion, clavinet, electric piano Sammy Figueroa - percussion Naná Vasconcelos - percussion Steve Ferrone - drums Leon Pendarvis - piano, electric piano, synthesizer Don Grolnick - electric piano Ken Bichel - synthesizer Richard Tee - synthesizer Howard Johnson - tuba David Bargeron - tuba Robert Stewart - tuba Joseph Daley - tuba Peter Gordon - french horn John Trevor Clark - french horn Michael Brecker - tenor saxophone Harvey Estrin - tenor saxophone David Tofani - alto saxophone Harvey Estrin - alto saxophone Eddie Daniels - alto saxophone, tenor saxophone Lewis Delgatto - baritone saxophone Ronnie Cuber - baritone saxophone Randy Brecker - trumpet Marvin Stamm - trumpet Barry Rogers - trombone James Pugh - trombone Noel Pointer - electric violin Hugh McCracken - harmonica solo trk: 9 and that is without the strings etc .. Who wouldn't want to know about that..? well, I understand if the music isn't your thing...but this pretty much looks like the Who's who of the NY session scene of that time..with a few exceptions, maybe D Sanborn for one...but then his double David Tofani is there. Anyway..we talked for ages and I forgot to set up in time. Its all music.

Our encores are Fooled again or Stay with me, typically. We finish strongly but I am not that precious about them...if people want them, they'll tell us and we'll do them. If the night had gone poorly, we wouldn't feel like doing them. It doesn't seem like rocket science to me.

My maple is brighter all round but I think a fair few other things are factors as well. As with all things..it is the bass that you play that is the determining factor....not so much the spec as so many things can come into play, IMO

Never not done one with my current band.... so you can get a bit blase about it.

I am expecting something from Luxemborg this week via GLS so I will at least be able to comment when I receive that. [url="http://www.gls-group.eu/276-I-PORTAL-WEB/content/GLS/BE01/NL/1.htm"]http://www.gls-group.eu/276-I-PORTAL-WEB/c...S/BE01/NL/1.htm[/url] You may want to PM Gillento as he uses Euro couriers.

Cheers Ziggy. you know how good they are, of course.... am still thinking about selling the Flam5, but you know how long I have been saying that.

[attachment=75901:001.jpg] I'd like to make the pic bigger but will have to work out how..