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[quote name='blue' timestamp='1453320068' post='2958466'] ................ Please guys, I am tired of the "but I have a regular job, I don't need the money". That's not the point guys and frankly IMO a lame response. If you don't need the money , give it to the band members that do.I would bet some of you do just that. Blue [/quote] Just because I might not need it... My fee is my fee and I'll do with it as I see fit. Why I should give it to the guys who don't work is as lame as people expecting a certain fee because that is all you do. If they need more money...go earn it. If the gig pays the band members £150 ea after exes, are you going going to regulate that pro rata as per their daily salary..? Not in a million.

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1453296026' post='2958172'] [b]Not sure if it's possible to play a 'better' bass line than the original[/b] - which after all, is what punters are largely expecting to hear - but I would agree that we must avoid raising the temperature of our urine at all costs. In fact I'm going to start a petition on 38 Degrees, sign up now. STOP HOT URINE FROM EXACERBATING GLOBAL WARMING AND CLIMATE CHANGE! [/quote] I'm sure it is... quite often

[quote name='BottomE' timestamp='1449422299' post='2923394'] Heres my rig modelled by our singer. [/quote] Beats everything else here hands down..

[quote name='JoeEvans' timestamp='1453315382' post='2958400'] Ok - £300, £100 each for the two who don't know the birthday boy, and £50 each for the two who want to do it for cheap. [/quote] You should have set the rate prior to it being an issue that is THE mistake... but I'd say £400 for a party type event was very cheap for mate's rates. The above solution is ok..and will teach them to price someone else's time... The best way out of this is to be 'busy' but it may be too late for it now... and you are going to have an issue over this. Delicate..delicate.

[quote name='vmaxblues' timestamp='1453293738' post='2958122'] So, we are being asked to a 40th Birthday Party, all good so far, he is an acquaintance of two of the band, and he has asked for a price for the evening, I suggested £400 as a mates rate, silence, he has come back with... 'I was thinking £200, as when I spoke to your guitarist the other night he said you charge around £200 for pubs' This makes my blood boil for all the obvious reasons and it looks like the others in the band don't really recognise my opinion that this is taking the p**s. They are keen to do it and see it as a paid rehearsal! I have said if we are doing it at pub rates it must be treated as such, i.e turn up at 7.00, set up, do two sets of 45 mins, pack up go home. No extra sets, no lights, backing music etc and definately no setting up at 12.00pm. Am I being silly? [/quote] No, perfectly reasonable.... but if you are regarded as a pub band because the vast majority of your gigs are in pubs..you can see the customer's 'logic'... We discussed mate's rates as a band and the best that might be achieved is if the mate in the band waived his fee. If...to keep the peace, you agree to cobble together a special rate, you should determine what mates rates actually are and why you charge what you do to future clients........... but then also, you may run the risk if another mate of a mate asks and he also knows what you charged..? We used to say that saturdays rates were x... and that is a reason we wouldn't take a pub date in the summer ... And yes, a party is more about hrs...if he wants a pub deal, then you play a pub deal. Personally, I still wouldn't go there, but you've been stitched up (it seems) by people who don't know what is on the song sheet..???

My take on new people is what do these bring to the party. I'm not looking for someone to cover notes, that is a given..I want something else. You have to see the guy fits the style... so a widdly widdly gtr wont work with Tom Petty tracks ect... but since notes are the easiest thing to cover, I'll be looking at his energy or input. Why should we go with this guy over that guy...

I don't really bother with auditions as I know what I'm looking for and it is better for me to go out and get that rather than expect a band to have covered it. As for learning the set..it depends, if I know the song in my head..then I can pretty much busk/play it. I'm not bothered about basslines as my role will be to make the bottom end work..so I have to adapt to what the other guys are doing. So, you do this on the fly. At most I might have a chord chart but if there are any figures that must be played..I'll concentrate on that. It is likely to be that 'attention to detail' that people will focus on ..as it happens. So, the ability to pick something up quickly and make it sound good it better than playing the part exactly right but not knowing why it isn't really working in a band sense.. All this gets easier when you have a wealth of experience in various genres and styles and knowing you'll make sense of it. Jazz gigs can be a perfect example.....you expect it to be a reading gig and mostly it is the horn parts that have charts. If the drummer is reading it..it is a reading gig.. The trick is to have put yourself about and know you can cope... If someone says pick x number of songs and let them know which ones you want to play...you couldn't have it much more on your terms, really. Your playing is very important but so is how you gel with the other guys which is why bands pick mates... I don't myself... but you can understand why some do as that apsect is importantly to them. If you get on with the guys...then that can't not help. Try and gel/flash with the drummer as he will (should) know what you are doing best If you don't gel with the drummer...you don't want the gig anyway..

Bloody hell...

30 songs is probably going to be 6 months work at one rehearsal a week.... depending how sorted he is. I think you can get to gig in 6 weeks,,again if he knows his stuff...2x45mins What songs you have in common and what you have to change..keys etc etc

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1453119832' post='2956445'] A P bass is a "one trick pony". But what a trick. It's the best in the book, which is why it is still the most played and recorded bass on the planet. A 2 pickup bass, such as the Jazz, has as many "tricks" as the player has the ability to find. There is nothing special or better in an active bass. It is only duplicating the controls on the pre amp but putting them on the bass, for convenience. [/quote] Yes, I'm not such a fan of P's so can make do with the J approximation of one for my needs. I've spent more time on the neck... and left it for 24 hrs before I work on it again. I just think the pre amp is pretty average so if I keep it that goes. I'm not sure about the sadowsky thinking... but I have pit a TH pedal in front of the amp to play around with sound, New strings are next as I get too much clank in the sound and I never find that subtle at all. I'm sure an East would improve things but I'm prepared to push this bass a bit further out from what I've already got. I prefer to have the pre on the bass as that means I can set the amp up for the cabs and not have to touch it. I'm not looking for massive tonal variations tho..; just different. Continuity works as well... if I can find the Aguilar or Audere pre with the same config options on a 4 pot onboard pre, then that gives it a different flavour.

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1453135648' post='2956729'] My reaction would depend on how it happened... If it was an accident, I'd be upset but I'd not make an issue of it, accidents do happen and people often feel bad enough about what they have done to someone else's gear. On the other hand, if he did it on purpose or it happened as a result of him messing about and then he proceeded make a joke out of it, I'd be f**king livid... [/quote] Kind of this... accidents happen, but if he fails to see that you value something and doesn't care or hasn't aplogised, then I'd not forget.

De-friend her straight away... I would.

The stage for tributes is from smaller clubs upwards..ie, that can pay £1k upwards IMO. Tributes don't work in pubs, IMO. Even a Oasis tribute are scratching around for more than a 50 min set unless you are really into them. For an audience they are marmite.. I can see a festival working well for them.... and since the originals...if they are worth going to see.. are taking the mick with their ticket prices and the fact that you're likely to be watching them on a screen anyway.

No, I don't... there are only a few guys round here, who IMO, have their sound down in conjunction to their style.

I do want a passive option.... I bought it because it is so different to what I have and it is making my approach different. I liked one core sound in the shop but the sound wont work with everything I do...so it wont be a single bass gig as it is. I'm playing with tone options on the bass only and set-up... and haven't touched the amp. Haven't settled on the strings yet either... I dislike the bridge more so I'll change that first if I decide to keep it...

Music, I'm hearing the whole band...

hmmm doesn't make sense to me as your bass cab should basically perform that role first and foremost, and pubs aren't mostly that big so it should be able to hit the back wall. I do think some cabs do it better than others and your bass sound counts as well.

[quote name='aleio82' timestamp='1453030150' post='2955641'] Aguilar I tried once but I found it not so warm, am I wrong? [/quote] I wouldn't call them 'warm'... but I would say they are as warm as you need to get without blatting your tone. And another shout for TKS 112's which I'd pair with a TH500 or Ampeg PF500.

[quote name='NJE' timestamp='1453029692' post='2955632'] Did you go for an American Deluxe Jazz? If the bridge and pre are poor it sounds likentounwould be better off selling for something that works better as it is. Secondhand Mike Lull? [/quote] Custome shop...altho I don't get what makes it 'different' from an Am deluxe as the bits and bobs seem to be from AD's..?? And yes, I've seen a very nice Lull with Maple...but I've got that covered .. The RW CS sounds 70's maple anyway, atm...

Love that blue too...

I'm not liking the bridge and the pre is pretty skanky tbh... The pickups seem ok but I can't hear them passive atm as they don't have a passive option onboard. Decision time about whether to sell the bass now.

I had these tracks on my record deck in my formative years and always thought everyone did... The impact that Edwards had back then where he pretty much developed a style to dominate the genre means that this octave fingerstryle funk would be hard to avoid.. A mate said he was looking forward to joining this soul unit so he could then learn all these classics and he'd been in funk type bands before so I couldn't for the life of me understand how he'd missed them ... Must be just me then...

[quote name='AndyTravis' timestamp='1452969222' post='2955243'] I've been through all of the above. The band has been fine until we've come back from Christmas and we've changed drummers. Pretty unfortunate. [/quote] Doesn't sound like you've found your drummer then..?

I can't say if I know the bass well enough acoustically atm. It is taking a bit of time bedding the bass in as it is quite different from my other two. I am thinking OB3 as well, atm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEvCPvLh_60 This might be blasphemy to some but Jerry Barnes does some great things to Nile's song list.. I prefer him to Bernard Edwards as he has brought the songs and parts on... and they sit better 20-30 years later in a live context. Anyway... a double thumb take on a classic part in this video.