AJ567

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You could put a gigrig isolator under the board and just have a one spot running into it. It's the size of a 9v battery and would give you 4 isolated outs. 

Effectrode!

@Mikey D Digital octave down just doesn't sound great, and analog octave up doesn't really exist (it sounds more like fuzz). I use the octabvre for down, and a TC Sub'n'up for octave up. They sound great together, and by having two pedals you get all the switching options. TC Sup'n'up can be had pretty cheap these days, especially the mini version. With the tone print editor you can get it to sound very pog-like if that's your thing. It also does a whole lot more than the pog.

@franzbassist

Phwoar, beautifully done! 

What cable clips are those?

Also, how do you find the Van Damme pro patch? I'm considering doing my next build with exactly that combo with the SP Jacks. Haven't found any other cable that's small enough to fit.

13 minutes ago, ped said:

Worked perfectly. Absolutely no noise now with the 1Spot supply turned on. Very pleased! Thanks for the tip.

sweet!

1 minute ago, Quatschmacher said:

No, it’s a fault and will get nerfed, sorry. 

Bummer! Maybe we can persuade them that it's better to leave the cat out of the bag...

3 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said:

You are quite right, sir! Some of the patches don’t work properly though, particularly some of the FM stuff, but there are plenty that do. Nice bonus. 

Cool! Do you think this is an intentional update that SA have just kept quiet about?

2 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said:

Are you doing this via the mobile editor with an audio cable into input 2?

Yes, essentially. I'm actually using a bluetooth dongle connected to input 2 via TRS.

31 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said:

And can you hear it?

Haha, yes I can hear it. I mean, I can't know for sure that it sounds the same as it does on the C4, but what I am hearing does indeed sound like some square waves combined. No obvious problems, either on this one or any other C4 patch

57 minutes ago, Quatschmacher said:

They were originally going to be identical (in the same way the fuzz and modulation pedals are) other than the hardware knobs but late on in the development they decided to pare down the features on Spectrum.

When you click on the Spectrum photo first, that should be filtering for Spectrum-only presets. 
 

I’ll take a proper look tonight.

Just had a look on the mobile app and you are correct that C4 presets are appearing in the list. What will be the test will be what happens when I try to load one into spectrum that uses features not found in spectrum such as the square wave oscillator. 
 

@AJ567, what happens when you try to load the patch “PWM” by jbharms1? That sound is composed purely of square waves. Does it work on your Spectrum?

Yep, "PWM" works, I can edit it and everything!

This is fun! Happy camper over here... 

Yep, it works! Right now I'm happily comparing your 'Pony' patches (C4) with my own one (Spectrum)...!

Curiously, it only works if I access the 'community' preset library in a certain way. I have to click on the spectrum photo in the home screen so that I go to the editor page, then select browse in the bottom right corner. If I go straight to 'browse' from the home screen, it doesn't work.

In case it's relevant, I'm on Android.

A theory - Spectrum and C4 are actually the same pedal under the hood (like the LA Lady/Aftershock/Kingmaker) but Source Audio have put some firmware in place to lock out Spectrum users from certain features, so that they can offer two pedals at different price points... and I've stumbled on a workaround...?!

7 minutes ago, ped said:

I've used the app with my old iPad which has a headphone jack - but what if you have a newer phone without one?

I'm using a bluetooth dongle which is on the pedalboard permanently. Works great. Wireless access to all presets under the sun and one click to load them!

6 hours ago, dodge_bass said:

It works the other way - you can use Spectrum patches on the C4. @Quatschmacher will be able to give you proper details - he’s the guru. 

That's what I mean - I seem to be able to use c4 patches on the spectrum, which is new!

Hey folks, Spectrum owner here. I just messed around with the neuro app (mobile) for the first time in a while, and I found that I can access a whole bunch of c4 presets which I couldn't access before. They seem to work fine on the spectrum...! 

Does anyone know if this is some kind of very cool update from Source Audio? Or am I going crazy...?

Yep a joyo adapter on the future impact should sort you out 👍

Given that your three pedals are digital, you will probably get some noise by putting them on daisy chained power. I would suggest buying a couple of Joyo ZGP adapters and putting them on two of your pedals, that way all three are isolated from each other. Problem solved for under £20

Disaster area midi baby 3?

Sweet! I've got a similar parts bass which is 5 string (i.e. a Ray35 with a status fretless neck). Using a Nordstrand BigSplitman pickup. Can't say if it's more/less vintage sounding than the one you have, but I like it a lot.

You could put a Mooer micro DI after the last pedal. It has a +20db mode, i.e. boosting your signal from instrument level to line level. The output would be via XLR so you could take advantage of your power amp's balanced input (assuming it has one). 

16 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

Do you have any clips of your fav tweaked SnU octave up? I've shared one for the Digitech Mosaic. If the SnU is comparably good, I'll happily invest in one, but so far Mr @Baloney Balderdash has only come up with dare I say...baloney, with no dash of evidence to back up his claims! 😁

I'm afraid I don't and won't be able to record in the near future, sorry!

I've never played a Mosaic but I'm confident the Subnup is worth a punt if you are into octave up sounds. Very capable and flexible pedal. I have the big version which is cool for switching between your tweaked tone print and the stock presets. I only use the pedal for octave up, but I do toggle between the three preset slots. The 'classic' stock preset is a cool oc-2 type of thing, which sounds great up the octave. The big version also has the extra knob to assign tweak-y parameters to.

On 26/10/2020 at 11:09, Al Krow said:

@Baloney Balderdash picking up on your earlier post: 

"Actually my "fake 8 string bass" setup sounds really close, almost spot on, to the short bit with the demonstration of both pickups in humbucker mode...And I think I am able to approximate that pretty closely with my Sub'N'Up.

I'll record some clips when I get myself pulled together to do so, might take a few days though before I get it done."

I'm actually quite tempted to get a Sub'n'Up Mini based on your comments. Several BC'ers have, however, described the Sub'n'Up as being quite "tinny" on octave up and my own recollection is that it had a bit of latency when I tried it out on factory settings in the store.

But if you've cracked it, then it would definitely be worth another look for me and an incentive to investing time in the TonePrint editor in the knowledge that it can actually deliver, as the ability to provide both oct down and up simultaneously in such a small form factor and at a relatively good price, compared to many other octavers, is very appealing.

So, I'm definitely looking forward to your clips! 😊

 

The sub'n'up is great for octave up. You can use the toneprint editor to EQ the upper octave voice to your heart's content, so you should be able to get it sounding as you want it to sound. You can also add some drive or chorus etc., then map the knobs so they control whatever parameters you want. Really knocks it out of the park IMO

It does have some latency, but if you think about it, it's actually necessary for 'clean' octave up. If there was absolutely zero latency then your ear wouldn't hear two distinct notes an octave apart, it would sound more like your regular bass sound with boosted upper partials. The same doesn't really apply for octave down, which is why analogue octave down (with no latency) is so satisfying (while digital octave down is so... meh).

I needed to do exactly the same thing, ended up making my own adapter using one of these off ebay. Works fine:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162947860761

Easy to do. Just cut the end off one of your dc cables, then attach the little wires inside to the screw terminals. NB they will most likely be red and black, and you will need to connect the red one (usually from the pin) to the positive terminal. Then wrap the whole thing in some heat shrink or insulation tape. Job done.

If you don't fancy DIY, Temple audio make an adapter that does what you need, but its expensive.

Seriously impressive effort you have gone to on these videos mate. Kudos for daring to do things differently!

I had a pedal with a very loud mechanical true bypass switch, Martin Owen of Owen Electronics added some components and made it quiet as a mouse. Highly recommended. 

Alternatively, If you are into DIY then you can often replace mechanical bypass switches with a relay circuit fairly easily. TH Custom Effects sells a bunch of kits for this purpose. 

NB Lehle makes some nice switches to pair with your relay circuit, if going the DIY route.