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[quote name='Randy_Marsh' post='1036723' date='Nov 25 2010, 06:39 PM']I'm not sure if this has been done before but was just wondering if any bands on here had an intro song before they went on-stage. Just curious really and thinking of maybe using one for my band[/quote] What you mean played through the PA from an audio source? If so, then no But then again, we are small time pubs, clubs and functions so it would be to pretentious imo

[quote name='algmusic' post='1036351' date='Nov 25 2010, 01:57 PM']It's funny, the one question that hasn't come up is the quality of the band.. I've played in bands where we had a sound guys for 3 reasons: 1. no one wanted to lug around the PA gear, that was his/her responsibility, but it meant a far small gig fee for the band 2. there are so many instruments, you need a GOOD PA guy to make it sound good 3. there was a big enough budget.. On the flip side I've played in bands that did big corp shows without sound guys, but you didn't have a guitarist constantly turning and up to a drummer who plays far too loud etc.. the The first I played in this context used in ears monitoring, then the wireless guitarist would check the sound before the gig and occasionally when running around playing solos, the other band with no sound guy, had the same mix in the FOH for the monitors and the band actually 'used their ears to gauge the level' If you can't trust the band to do that and the gig isn't worth fluffing up, then get a sound guy.. But I do think band members can save money on gigs if everyone listens ;-) I know I'm asking alot :-P[/quote] As a band, we can play the songs in the set with good dynamics and extend things if it feels right during the gig etc, everyone listens and no one shows off or has to be loudest (which is the opposite in another band I gig with) But out front sound is not the same as on stage in a room like this, and the songs really vary, some have keys on top others more subtle strings etc, and there are up to 4 vocals etc, so we could do it without, but someone listening our front tweaking is what we need, it certainly has made the gigs before this a success and is perhaps a key in the reason we got this gig (as someone came to last gig to listen before they booked us) Not only that, set up/sound check time is limited, and that would be done with an empty room which once filled changes things i believe We have no in ears, but should have 4 monitors (2 powered 2 slaves) as a minimum Whatever happens, it will be ok, but I started this thread thinking there must be a lot of bands in our position and wondered what approaches you guys took PA seems to be something we have just about enough knowledge to get by with, but Id rather focus on my own playing and rig, the sound guy really is another member of the band and really important, but he cant make it, it looks like we will have someone to help though, hopefully A

Why does a Precision sound so, well like a precision, is it all in the pick up, or are there other factors, surely the original mid/neck one on a Jazz was not all that different from the P in its design?

[quote name='jonthebass' post='1035106' date='Nov 24 2010, 02:15 PM']Indeed and quite possibly! On the gig front - Do you D.I. your bass or run it all from the amp?[/quote] DI from the amp, but normally mostly coming from the amp, just a trickle of bass to help spread it, we have 4 out front speakers This gig however is around 100 people more than I have ever used this PA for Thanks for the heads up re PAT, the venue have asked for £5 million PL insurance, but we managed to get the company planning the event to deal with this Jon, do you do sound engineering then when your not playing bass ?

[quote name='jonthebass' post='1035085' date='Nov 24 2010, 01:58 PM']It just irks me when the person who is responsible for what your band sound like, and therefore how your audience hears you, should be made to feel grateful for the privilege That's all another can of worms though...[/quote] I think this might be a case of us both reading without understanding the intention behind the text, a common email problem I don't think the young guy who may help us that night should feel grateful, its us who would be very grateful to him if he can do it Anyway, cheers guys for the replies, we have the complete PA system already which I use regularly elsewhere (just need a few more fold back monitors) , so no need to hire anything, its more about having someone on the desk during the night, which now is looking likely again Thanks for the heads up re PAT, the venue have asked for £5 million PL insurance, but we managed to get the company planning the event to deal with this

[quote name='jonthebass' post='1035006' date='Nov 24 2010, 12:51 PM']Not picking a fight here and it's just my opinion but WOW - Very presumptious and rude. I would expect [i]at least [/i] all of that on a paying sound gig in town for a band looking to do a really good show for their own gain. Hope it all goes well and wish you all the best.[/quote] Im kinda making reference to where we are at with this band, ie overworked mid life crisis blokes (+1 female ) trying to have some fun that pays for itself It goes with out saying their are semi pros and pros on here who would not get out of bed for what we do, but for us and this being our 4th gig, I believe is a good early step Just asking for advice really if its to risky to do without someone on the desk, like you would in pub or small party, don't know how this got me labelled presumptious and rude The other sound guy I might be able to rope in is a young but knowledgeable chap on the desk, and he has suggested he would be happy for an extra evenings pay whilst having fun, so again, a reference to us and our position, not to be compared to where anyone else might be at in the great scale of things above us If you expect at least what I mentioned then Im pleased you can command it, but that doesn't mean our progress to us is futile, and to cynically write WOW ? We are pleased with the booking anyway Hope that makes sense, really didn't intend to offend ?

We've been careful so far what we agree to (only 3 gigs in over a year) and only play when everyone including the sound guy can make, but this is a good step up and all the band can make it except him I have another guy who now might be able to help, just waiting for him to confirm, He will get a fee, and a meal at the Savoy, drinks and a minibus home, so its not a bad deal for your average Joe We have 2 lead vocals, 2 bvs, 2 keys, Sax, 2 guitars, 3 drum mics and bass, and some MP3 intro vibes going into the PA so, be good to have someone there, and I hope this is a spring board into these kind of gigs with this band

[quote name='silddx' post='1034837' date='Nov 24 2010, 10:40 AM']I'm really talking about decent hardware and ergonomics. Not all the fancy bollocks, or massive amounts of tonal options. Simply the usability angle. After all, it was designed as an alternative and evolution of the string bass. How traditional do you want to be?[/quote] Mate if I can find the time, id love to learn to play the string bass properly Not intentional trying to be traditional, as my amp is modern, but just find I like the basic bass What ergonomically and in usability is wrong with a P then in your opinion (ie not fancy bollocks or tonal options) Not trying to provoke , just interested Also I would not rule out in 2 years time, me finding something else that floats my boat better or changing my opinion, but i'm just not actively looking too (apart from a stingray anyway)

For those of you who along with your band, provide your own PA, how do you approach it? Do you bring a sound guy along, or just set and go? Basically a band i've started with friends has gone quite well, we are doing our 4th gig in a few weeks, and its a 300 people corporate gig in a hotel function room in London Our usual guy who does our PA is not free on that night, and I am keen we have someone on the desk, we could just set and go, but this is a good stepping stone for the band and I don't want anything not covered Obviously we need to provide the best service for the client regardless and this is not a play in the corner pub gig So how do you guys approach this ?

[quote name='silddx' post='1034796' date='Nov 24 2010, 09:55 AM']Fender are completely stuck in the past, and so are many of the musicians that play them.[/quote] Things do move and evolve which is good, but sometimes there is something nice about just using a traditional method If a band is producing a kind of music which was originally created on a passive 4 string fender with 1 pick up position, what is wrong with doing just that now Evolution is good and exciting, but if you don't need 8 active pick ups, led lights etc to create your sound and image, then thats not being stuck in the past Nail guns are great, but sometimes a hammer is all that is needed

Congrats, hope you enjoy it, let us know how those cabs are ? Loved my orange cab, way to heavy, but the punch, oh regret

[quote name='Jam' post='1033591' date='Nov 23 2010, 09:54 AM'] [/quote] Its that good I thought it might be one of those sick joke clips as you cant see behind the clothes on the picking hand, I hope that coming into my head is seen as a compliment to the player Yes, humbling indeed, but inspiring also

[quote name='dumelow' post='1033851' date='Nov 23 2010, 01:31 PM']Anybody know where I can find an accurate tab for this song please??[/quote] Just you tubed it as i thought you said Meteors, and I didn't know it Anyway, when I finally typed meters in, a fair few of those bass play along clips came up, I don't know how good they are, but might be worth a look/listen

[quote name='Doddy' post='1033461' date='Nov 23 2010, 01:45 AM']Plus,you can always read the text on the toilet [/quote] Thats ended any lending or sale of your 2nd hand books to members on here

I have 2 precisions and a Jazz The Jazz is superb, but It seems i always choose the Ps for gigs, I just find the neck comfortable and I seem to relax into playing more on a P than a J I think right now if someone offered an interesting P for my J, Id take it I seem to settle on amp settings on my Ps easier, Im always messing when I take the J

[quote name='icastle' post='1031074' date='Nov 21 2010, 12:40 AM']Kinda loathe to suggest it but... "You're the one that I want" from Grease..? [/quote] no your right about that, I no it's cool not to like it, but it's a great line All blues, so what for jazz ain't to stoppin us now, let's groove loads of disco tunes, some already mentioned gangsters , specials guess it depends alot on age group also

[quote name='geofio' post='1028426' date='Nov 18 2010, 08:58 PM']GOOD TO SEE SO MANY REPLIES AT LEAST IT PROVES THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE ON HERE!!!! NOT EVERYONE HAS A RICK OR 1975 JAZZ BASS TO SELL MY POINT IS I HAVE A NICE SHECTER DAMIEN 4 STRING ACTIVE FOR SALE AND NOT A PEEP!!! I HAVE PURCHASED A RICK FROM THIS SITE 18 MONTHS AGO SO I KNOW THAT YOU CAN GET A GOOD DEAL ON HERE IT JUST SEEMS TO HAVE DIED A DEATH , AND AM NOT GETTING AT ANYONE , JUST FRUSTRATION. CHEERS GEORGE[/quote] If you really have an instrument to sell then this sort of thing is really not going to help people want to deal with you, I certainly wouldn't based on this thread, but perhaps you had a bad day when you started it, fair enough Please do not attack this site or its members though, the site is provided free, which means people put time into it, only asking for donation which it doesn't enforce if something sells Also, its great that people can comment on the basses in the threads, it makes it more browsable than a normal for sale section, which assists your sale

[quote name='Shire' post='1028098' date='Nov 18 2010, 04:09 PM']Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it interest free too? A lot of music shops are doing this now, I think its a government backed scheme to encourage more people to play music. More info: [url="http://www.takeitaway.org.uk/"]http://www.takeitaway.org.uk/[/url][/quote] Im very cynical, there are better ways to encourage music then tempting people into getting into debt for an instrument they might give up on after a few weeks And its only 0% if the outlet won't do a better deal for full payment or cash up front Basically stage payments sell items, its just DFS with instruments

[quote name='bubinga5' post='1028049' date='Nov 18 2010, 03:32 PM']any thoughts..[/quote] On the bass or about getting into debt ?

Doing roughly 1 a month with 2 bands, got 2 in december, one corporate gig in the Savoy and one in a small pub 2 mins walk from my house Love to do more, but this amounts suits me as its only a hobby and I do other stuff on top of work and family Edit : 10 mins walk to be more accurate

Dog, so i'll give you a fiver You must drop your picks alot, you got 3 tucked in the guard Good luck with the sale

My first week learning the dots and I was looking forward to getting the email with the songs for my sunday worship band so I could sit down and work out the dots as homework rather than the chords 8 songs just came through, all chord charts, which is not usual & you tube links, not a score in sight My life must be pretty good if thats what I've chosen to moan about today

back on topic "groove" is better sorry couldn't resist

Mate this stuff is so subjective I love sunburst and light blues in general, so i like the ice blue one Id also buy a cheaper Fender instead, whatever anyone says about them

[quote name='Doddy' post='1027082' date='Nov 17 2010, 05:05 PM']I have dreadful computer skills and kept hitting the wrong letters. [/quote] I've just figured out to use the keyboard, I was using the mouse, which is slower! Anyway, rankings are not really what its about, I just want to get sharp with reading the notes and not thinking what they are but knowing it as soon as it appears like reading words I know the frets pretty well, so at least thats something to assist me in these early steps I think my brain is going to be stretched more now than it has been for years, its great to be trying to learn something again