Sibob

I think for the opening/main riff, just follow the guitar, you're playing too much in that recording (IMO). It'll sound fat and tight and just be a cool beefy riff to nod your head to.
When it opens up a little and he goes high, what you're doing is just fine I reckon, remember there'll be a vocal there, melody or whatever, so although they'll be slightly more sonic space available to you because of the change in guitar part, you don't want to get in the way of the voice!

Si

I'm not fussed about the routing, the bass sounds awesome lol
And what idiot would use a jazz bass without a scratchplate!

My bass is around 2003/2004, so it seems more cost cutting came into play!?

Si

Weird!

Maybe it has literally been a money saving technique since the start, and seeing as Jaco took his scratchplate off, the reissues must be copying it right down to that detail!

Si

Yeah, I was thinking it was a money-saving technique, but surely the saving is so negligible that it's hardly worth the effort!? Tis an odd one

Si

So I had to remove the scratchplate on my US Jazz Standard yesterday, so as to compare it to one I've purchased for my Jazz build, and this is what I find:

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It's a little odd, because i've removed the plate before and didn't even notice the difference.
Anyone else found this or have any explanations?

I don't care btw......just thought it was interesting

Si

I've got a Lakland 44-02 Deluxe (Skyline)

I know that it's an awesome bass, very easy to play, but it hasn't really got a place in my stable at the moment, so I'm thinking about moving it on (if anyone is interested). I'm just waiting for my Jazz build to be finished!

Eye Candy:
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Si

[quote name='kevbass' post='270617' date='Aug 26 2008, 10:31 PM']Its nice to see this Body finally being put to use (something I never had the time to do), its looking good Si, a bit supprised you decided to stick with black! but you cant knock black on maple now can you? [/quote]

Yeah, I mean I had started the build with a couple of other colours in mind, sunburst & white etc, but I started wanting something a little less 'vintage' looking. I also started getting jealous of all the lush looking black on black basses being touted around the 'Porn' section lol.

I'm really pleased with how it's all come together, it hasn't been a quick process, but nothing worth having ever is!

Yesterday I purchased the last little bits and pieces, 2nd stack knob, black scratchplate, pickup switch etc, it's all basically ready to assemble when the neck is done, will being coming out on tour with me in November

Cheers guys
Si

Do you know the weight of the cab?

Thanks
Si

Not one mention of a serial number, not one picture of a neck stamp

hmmm

Si

I think it's important to remember that it's difficult to give specific advice without actually hearing what you're writing a bass line for.

It's all very well slating guitarists and taring them all with the same brush, but what if he's simply giving you his opinion about how you can make the song better!?
So while I concede that there are some egotistical guitarists out there who know very little about taste and good song-writing, I have to say that most that I work with are creative, friendly and really know what sounds good!

Si

My covers band has one guitarist
My originals band has two

I think the Eagles get away with it because:
1) as has already mentioned, they're arrangments are second to none
2) Each of them often plays piano or organ = they are multi-instrumentalists
3) As with maiden, they have some harmonised solo lines which obviously require 2 guitars, and in my opinion I always like to hear a guitar doubling the bass whilst anything solo'y is happening = 3 guitars.

But these are exceptions, most bands that have more than two guitars, and even some bands with two, really haven't a clue how to use them effectively!

Si

In what context are you playing them?

Bedroom? Gigs? etc

Because in my experience, a bass that feels and sounds great in one of the above situations doesn't mean it is the same in the other situation!

Si

Ahhh, the E2 is still on the Akai website!
Must be the E1 that is discontinued!

Oh well, it'll stop being made one day lol

Si

This has nothing to do with want you want to play or what your guitarist want you to play (or rather it shouldn't), it's got to do with what the song NEEDS. If a particular section requires a unison riff to sound heavy, then one shouldn't deviate it because you will lose that 'oomf'. What I do if i can't figure out a decent line for a section that requires a bit more movement or harmonic content is to simply hum what I think would sound cool, then move that onto the bass.

The best one guitar metal band I can think of to listen for ideas is Mudvayne, Ryan is a monster player, knows when to fill sonic space and knows when to just kick back and riff with the guitar!

+1 for uploading the guitar riffs here though!

Si

[quote name='Toasted' post='268817' date='Aug 24 2008, 11:43 AM']This pedal as an investment is a good one - they will only rise in value.[/quote]

Sorry to go off track slightly but.......you think this toasted?
I have one that's still in its box and with manual etc....great pedal really, so interesting to see that It might be a collectable or something in a number of years time!

Good luck with the sale!

Si

Yeah mate, try as many different basses as you can!

Then when you've found a make/model you like....buy it second hand!
SSOOOOOO much second hand bass for £1000, you see Sei Jazzes go for like £950

Si

My Shuker EUB has been part of an ongoing 'rationalisation' for some time now, and I think my Lakland will join it soon when my new Jazz arrives.

Here's to helping unused gear get the use it deserves by other people

Si

So no-one has emailed Epifani yet then?


Si

So Tony Grey is with Yamaha, not Fodera, but often plays a Fodera, that pesky Tony Grey

!?

Si

Just figure out some of the vocal melodies and have some fun with them!
Always a good way of starting!
Jaco used to advocate learning the main melodies of any song he was playing!

Si

[quote name='Mike' post='266888' date='Aug 21 2008, 10:24 AM']No, it's a bassist called Tony Grey. I think he often plays a Fodera.[/quote]

Oh right, sorry, I thought you said he played a Fodera......this elusive Tony Grey

Si

So it's Tony Grey and he plays a Fodera?!

Si

I loved the way that a couple of members were like "learn arpeggios before scales, you know root 3rd, 5th, 7th", and when asked what the numbers meant, had to relate it back to scales!

Perfec!

Learn some basic scales and how they relate to each other, take the arpeggios from that, there are loads of arpeggios that take from all notes in all scales. Then practice it in a musical context, what I did was buy a cheap looping pedal, lay down some basic chords (guitar/piano/bass...whatever) and just practice my scales, modes and arpeggios over it, makes it more relevant than just plonking up and down the fretboard!

Si

p.s.
Phrygian Dominant is a particular fave of mine!

I got it wrong, was getting over excited....I'm '83, both the models I'm talking about above are '85s

Probably highlighting your point even more stringrayfan!

Si

Wouldn't a much simpler plan be to just buy a 4 string Stringray, and have a scratchplate custom made like the 5 string version, doing away with the metal control plate etc.

Easy
Si