gnasher1993

[quote name='Salt on your Bass?' post='707717' date='Jan 10 2010, 02:40 PM']Is there any more info out on this yet or a release date? The concept is exactly what I'm looking for. Google and tech 21 website doesn't appear to be doing me any favours![/quote] [url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=615732"]http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=615732[/url]

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Sansamp VT bass. You might want to wait for the newer version to come out.

[quote name='absentmindeduk' post='706808' date='Jan 9 2010, 05:46 PM']The Markbass 2x10's may be a good option? -There is someone on the cabs forum selling a second hand 2x10 for around £350, otherwise new they'll set you back about £550. Though they're 400W @ 8 Ohm.[/quote] There's someone local to me that has a traveller 210. The 102P. Is that a good option? Is it a problem that it's only going to be getting 175 watts?

Thanks for all your help . At the moment, I'm thinking of adding an 8 ohm 2x10 cab to my current rig.

[quote name='phil.i.stein' post='706727' date='Jan 9 2010, 04:46 PM']whilst there are some knowledgable bods here, can i quickly ask something related to this ? i heard once that more ohms = tighter bass. is there any truth to this ? sorry, i don't want to hijack this thread, but i'm guessing that you may want to know if this is the case. [/quote] Yes, definitely want an answer to that one! Then I won't be made to feel like such an idiot for looking for an 8 ohm cab .

[quote name='chris_b' post='706707' date='Jan 9 2010, 04:26 PM']It seems to me that you've taken a wrong turn if you're looking to upgrade from a 175 watt amp and 1x8 cab into 2 ohm 800 watt amp territory! Unless you've joined a loud rock band?[/quote] I think you may have misunderstood. I'm not looking to [i]upgrade[/i], the GB rig will be staying and will be still be used. I'm not looking for a 2 ohm amp, that was just a question asking if they even existed. I've just joined a shoegaze band but we're not playing gigs, could be but not for a while yet. So if I do get a new rig...better to be looking at amps that are rated 500 watts at 4 ohms? I've always ignored the 4 ohm rating as I've not known what it meant. Now I do . I've just been looking at: amp + 8 ohm cab = sound So...just to make sure I'm understanding this right (using the stats from the LM 800): LM 800 -> 8 ohm cab = 500 watts LM 800 -> 4 ohm cab = 800 watts LM 800 -> 2 x 8 ohm cabs = 800 watts LM 800 -> 2 x 4 ohm cabs = wont work? Is that about right? [quote name='chris_b' post='706707' date='Jan 9 2010, 04:26 PM']You could use your current amp with an Aguilar GS112 or DB112. These cabs are larger than your 1x8 so you'll get more volume from your 175 watts and you'll get a much better tone. These 12" cabs are full range with clear highs and a full fat bass and they don't sound muddy at all. The Aguilar will also sound good with your upright. You could further upgrade to a second matching 112 which will sound great.[/quote] There's nothing wrong with the tone from my 1x8. I won't be changing it. It's staying whatever happens. New amp, new cab, either way, chances are I'll be keeping it. I'll have a look at the Aguilars, I've heard good things about them.

[quote name='absentmindeduk' post='706689' date='Jan 9 2010, 04:00 PM']The larger the surface area of your speaker, the more air it will shift. -More air being moved = better lows and more volume. If you are currently running your amp at 8 Ohms into 1 cab and you get another 8 Ohm cab, it will be much louder. The calculation is basically; Total Ohmage of each cab / Number of cabs = Total Impedance (Total Ohmage). -(Assuming all cabs are the same rating) So 8 / 2 = 4 Ohm load. The lower the ohmage, the less resistance there is to the signal output from your Genz 3.0, thus less ohms = higher volume. Hope thats of some use![/quote] Very helpful, thanks. How about a 210? Would that be a good addition to the Genz? I'm not keen on the sound of larger speakers. I play upright as well and find that the larger speakers sound too muddy (especially 1x15s). [quote name='GreeneKing' post='706686' date='Jan 9 2010, 03:58 PM']A 4ohm cab doesn't mean that you have to put out 750Watts There's a knob called 'volume' or something similar Have the cab at 4ohms gives you all the options, from quiet to 750watts, otherwise why not just buy a cheaper 500w amp?[/quote] If I get a 4 ohm cab, does that mean I can't add an extension cab at a later date? Looking at Andy's info. 4 / 2 = 2 ohm load. Can you get amps that will run at 2ohms? Oh and thanks for the tip on the volume knob I'll bare that in mind.

The 8" is really good to me across the full frequency spectrum. Not sure if I need a cab with better frequency response. Any other benefits of a bigger speaker?

Why a different sized cone?

I think 800 watts is going to be too loud. Or isn't there any volume difference in volume between 500 watts/8 ohms and 800 watts/4 ohms? I'm not really upto scratch on all this ohm business. I just know that the amp can put 500 watts into an 8 ohm cab and 800 watts into a 4 ohm cab. I've no idea what that relates to volume-wise. Sorry, I'm not too good at this physics lark . [quote name='chris_b' post='706644' date='Jan 9 2010, 03:18 PM']If 175 watts and an 8" speaker are good for "most" of your gigs I don't really understand why you need to jump to an 800 watt amp! Why don't you add another cab (Genz NEOX 12 or STL12) and make use of the full 300 watts in your current rig?[/quote] I thought it was a jump to a 500 watt amp. Also, I want to be able to play without PA support. The 175 watt into an 8" is fine for gigs with PA reinforcement. I've played gigs without and haven't been able to hear myself/be heard. If I had an extension cabinet to my current rig will it increase the volume alot?

[quote name='phil.i.stein' post='706628' date='Jan 9 2010, 02:56 PM']if you have a genz already, you may want something different, but i think the new shuttle 9.0 is 500w at 8 ohms. it comes in black too, v.sexy ![/quote] That was my other option but thought I could go for something different. It's around the same price point as the MB so I'm still considering it.

I'm looking to get a 2nd, more powerful rig. At the moment, I've got a Genz Benz Shuttle 3 with 8" cab at the moment which is 175 watts. That's plenty loud of enough for most venues I've played but have struggled at a couple when I haven't had PA support. I've got quite a few gigs booked for February/March so looking to get a 2nd rig with the money from those. I was planning on getting the Markbass Little Mark 800 so I'm looking for some cabinet options. The smaller/lighter, the better, but 500 watts handling (minimum) at 8 ohms is the only requirement I have. Just trying to find some options at the moment. My budget is probably about £700, I think that's reasonable isn't it? Thanks in advance, AJ