Muzz

I've got the Supertone on my Fenderbird (had it on two), and though the pups have been raised, I don't recall any major issues. I did replace the neck and the pups, too, though - and added chrome surrounds and covers: [sharedmedia=core:attachments:147458]

Yup, my point exactly...

[quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1464431276' post='3059396'] The overal tone of the bass does seem to change when the band start playing. I've heard really good bass tones when bands are sound checking just the bass, yet it becomes more generic in the mix and they lose some of the nicer points. I even find this at home playing along to CD's etc. Great solo tone but once it's blended in some of that just disappears. [/quote] You only have to hear the soloed feeds of people like JE and GL to hear how very very harsh their tones are to produce that cutting tone in a band setting, once they're up against guitar and drums. One of the reasons those angled Schroder cabs work well in a band environment is their kinda pokey soloed tone.

Drummers: the Kim Jong Il of band volume…

[quote name='thatgrantboy' timestamp='1464946751' post='3063958'] As would I! I love the chrome hardware on the tbirds, and this would really pop with it. I feel I'd spend more acquiring the chrome than I paid for the bass though! [/quote] There's an online supplier where you can get the surrounds and pickup covers - it's in Germany if memory serves. Not that expensive, either…well, in the context of a £70 bass, it is….probably £40-50 for both sets…

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1464947416' post='3063968'] Yes, just what is 'heft', anyway?? [/quote] HEavy to liFT…

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1464945545' post='3063939'] It all depends upon the context of a band. I'd quite happily do a coffee shop gig with a 1x12... You'd probably get away with it in quiet more acoustic focused bands... but you'd likely be wanting if you got much louder or larger venues. Probably worth clarifying whether this 1x12 has got to provide for front of house too... or whether it is just monitoring... or whether it's working whilst being supported by a PA (and of course, what PA - as that will change depending upon venue) [/quote] This, too - my comments about the Bergs apply to [i]without[/i] PA support. With the PA, I'd still use two, just to get the monitoring nearer my ears (we don't use wedges). The BB2 I used with and without - I played an RAF hangar with it and through a single-sub-two-tops PA, and had to repeatedly turn down.

[quote name='molan' timestamp='1464912738' post='3063806'] Not since last night. . . My 'second' rig is a Markbass LMII with a CMD112H. I've gigged with this loads of times in a loud rock band setting. Easily handles the volume and adjusts to lots of room types without much hassle [/quote] Not any kind of dig at all, but this kinda illustrates the gulf in "the rules" we assume about the instrument we all enjoy, its amplification, and the applicability of our experience to anyone else's - I've tried to gig that exact setup in a 'loud rock band' (my quotes for me, obv), and it was fartily, hopelessly inadequate. How any of us'd ever agree about anything more abstract, such as, erm, 'heft' is beyond me… Horses, courses…I think the default answer to the question "Is it just me…?" should really be 'probably'

I'd like to see that colour with the full chrome hardware - pup covers, surrounds, etc…

[quote name='Musashimonkey' timestamp='1464805647' post='3062791'] I've tried a number of good 12's but in my loud rock band the only single 12 to keep up volume wise was a Barefaced Big Baby 2. [/quote] This. I use 2 Berg 112s most of the time, and three when I want to really compete. The BB2 was extraordinary for the size.

[quote name='karlfer' timestamp='1464859724' post='3063167'] Muzz, I'm sure I noted somewhere that you've done a review on your Magellan. Buggered if I can find it any link fella? [/quote] Here you go…I hope http://basschat.co.uk/topic/284869-nrd-kindamagellan-and-berg-content/page__fromsearch__1

Where are the biscuits? Come on, who's hogging them?

[quote name='sshorepunk' timestamp='1464012016' post='3055732'] Still waiting for more opinions on this I've been gigging a streamliner, whilst I like it, I do miss the top end zing I've had from previous amps, it is a great sound, nice n warm Tony [/quote] Only just seen this one - I went from a Streamliner to a Magellan, and while there's a family resemblance, the Magellan's contour controls open out a lot more possibilities, and that (for me) blooming Streamliner bottom end which I struggled to control (there were some cabs with which it just didn't get on) is much tighter. There's an authority to the amp, too, and a responsiveness to input I've rarely encountered.

Yup, I've just bought another one as a backup - never had an amp fail on me live, and I don't need the sound help with my amp, but now I've got one in my gigbag, I'm covered. With previous amps (LMIII, etc) I've used the BDI21 and the full-price Sansamps, and had great results. There's a link to a great price on them somewhere on here, too...

Hahahaa...I'm loving this thread...I can smell the burning tooth enamel from here... Well done Alex, and a serious rig there...I'd still want a roadie to carry those heads, mind...has Timmy never heard of the advantages of Class D?

All I'm gonna say is the new Genzler Magellan's a helluva thing.

Thanks for the link, been pondering one just for a gigbag backup DI. Used one of these (and Sansamps) for a while when I had, erm, 'blander' amps (LMIII, etc), and for the money they're very very good. In a band context, sound wise, there's very very little difference between these and the 'real thing'. Not gonna be using it in my signal chain, as with the Magellan I don't need to, but as a DR backup, worth £20 all day...

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[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1464347956' post='3058667'] To be fair, that's not fixing, that's just changing my words to contradict the history of what has been said on this very forum. In other news, black is now white. [/quote] [quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1464348343' post='3058671'] I don't think you understand what you are saying. I'm not the one being burnt. I dont used Barefaced cabs. As a consequence, I don't have to look into my amps, cables, basses, setups, technique or the alignment of the Earth if I was to hear a tone I don't like coming from a cab... [/quote] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Aww I love a bit of fishing.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]2 bites in one go.[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]:-p[/font][/color]

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1464347802' post='3058662'] 3 [s]bites[/s] burns in one go. [/quote] Fixed again...

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1464343985' post='3058597'] To be honest, I have never read so much about a brand of cab that requires as much input from [s]the end user to do a job[/s] people who don't own or gig them. [/quote] Fixed it for you...

[quote name='Kevin Dean' timestamp='1463956900' post='3055380'] Jon Shuker made a bass for me for less than that . [/quote] This.

If we have a dep whose timing's shaky and doesn't respond to visual cues (a bit of foot stomping or head-nodding), then there's a 'change of plan' suggested, involving a pair of headphones and a click track for the rest of the set... They don't get a second call...

Yep, exactly that... I use these at all gigs...

[quote name='discreet' timestamp='1463511070' post='3051989'] I'm pretty sure you'd know, even blindfold. The good news is I have played an SVT/810 this year and I was gratified to learn that it's just as I remember it, if not better. Still the benchmark, imho. But I'd like to hear an SVT through a BF Six10 or Eight10, I think that might well be an acceptable compromise... or even a Big Twin 2, in fact. [/quote] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]That's good enough for me. I'm still never gonna try and get one into an estate car at one in the morning again, though... [/font][/color]