Muzz

I'm glad to know it's not just me being as shallow as a puddle, then 😀

OK, I'm gonna be the first to say it: if I don't like how a bass looks, I won't engage with it, and I'll sell it. Woods (with the influence of the above - for example, I don't like the look of rosewood boards) aren't important, mostly everything else is, in one way or another...

Rather than (as you say) hijacking the thread, there's reams and reams of stuff over the pond on TB about the Mesa amps. It takes a wee bit of sifting through the fanbois and hyperbole, but you'll find some general consensus on the characters of the various Mesa amps. There's so many more of them in use over there (probably because they're not as eye-wateringly expensive as they are over here) that there's a good spread of opinion.

Ahhhh, I see - I hadn't spotted that...on either count 😕🙂

Yep, you'll need a quad coil, which you won't get in a Jazz (or P) shape: the SIMS is a big soapbar, and Nordstrand do a quad coil, but it's in a MM shell...

This ^ Watch it happen next week now I've said that... 😕

Yep, a good while ago this exactly (the guitarist combo thing) - didn't sound any better (worse, in fact) for me...

Fair enough - it was the OP comment that he liked the BB sound, which to my mind was nearer M-Pulse than WA... It's a shame the Handbox stuff isn't more trialable*, I'd like to give one a go, although the head/cab thing is kinda secondary to my main gigging requirements these days. Always nice to have as a fallback, tho... 🙂 They'd seem to be perfect for the more boutique places like Bass Direct, the Gallery or the GBBL... * Not a word, I know, but YKWIM... 😕🙂

Punted... 😀

I thought the R-400 was more WA than BB/M-Pulse? They're a fairly different animal...

In the OP's position, I'd be looking very hard at that M-Pulse, too: I had the 360 for a while and that was plenty loud: YMMV vis-a-vis cabs, etc, but the 600 should be huuuge... For a real cheapo, there's a Spyder combo on the go verrrry cheap, which with a bit of easy work could be a 2u-racked head...

Just a quick heads-up - PMT are doing brand new HD500xs for £269 at the moment, but they're going fast...they'll also take a deposit to hold one till after Xmas if that's what people need...

Wise words from Mr Ian Faith...

Yep - I had several other basses at the time, and the weight was not a factor in any meaningful way. In fact every time I've let a heavier bass go, I've never compromised tone or sustain to do it. In the case of the boat anchor 70s Jazz, quite the reverse. As somebody stated above, there are good and bad basses which are heavier and lighter; I have simply chosen the lighter ones which are at least as good as the heavier ones, if not better.

Ahhhh, but how did you know they were 50w and 800w? 😁

For a given value of 'good', certainly... 😀

I take it everyone who's using big heavy old rigs for the whumf and heft is using hearing protection? You know, the attenuators that drop 20db or so off the volume? Or is going deaf worth the whumf? 😉

I have an East pre in all four of my gigging basses...no coincidence, that 😀

This. I had a 70s Jazz which weighed a sniff short of 12lbs and sounded dead and brown, all my basses are very very good, and there isn’t one heavier than 9lb. My Dingwall’s the lightest at 7lb 8oz, and is the most resonant of the lot. There’s waaayyyy too many factors like materials and build quality (and that’s before the pups and eq) to call weight as a major factor. i know standing around for a couple of hours with several pounds more than I want round my neck is a huge factor, tho...

I'm convinced with such an 'unvoiced' cab, umph is simply a matter of dialling it in via the amp's EQ...

Went to see Cadillac Three live last year, and tho they comprise a guitar/vocals, drummer and lap-steel player, I'd presumed they'd have a dep bassist for live work. Nope - the lap steel did the bass stuff - it was going into two or three Orange stacks, and sounded fantastic...

I'm enjoying the mix of an old-school amp like the Walkabout and the Super Twin...it certainly sounds like an old-school rig. It's just louder. And much, much lighter... 🙂

I'm looking forward to going down my next blues jam night to check passports, and I'll be requiring written proof that the singer's dog has actually died, his woman did indeed done him wrong, etc. 😁 I used to go to the Bier Keller in Manchester when standing on tables and hurling steinfuls of lager around the place was a big night out, and the house band there (definitely Oompah) covered Like A Virgin...it was a life-changing experience... 😁

Yep, I'd agree - I love mine, and it is very transparent, but some people might not like that. If the OP likes the Super Compact, tho, he'll be all good 😀

I use a Walkabout with my Supertwin, and it gets every db out of it: I play (sometimes) with two 412/Marshall head guitars in a loud rock band, no PA support, and it's verry loud. I've also used it with an 800w Magellan and at no point have I ever thought it wasn't going to cope. I have no GAS for anything else, and I've had a lot of other cabs.