Muzz

Just to haul this one back on topic, I had a rehearsal yesterday with a band who last all played together 28 years ago - we're going to do a one-off 30th anniversary gig next year, and I took my backline to the rehearsal rooms. Big room, shed-building drummer, guitar through the the PA and a wedge amp/monitor, and lots of late-80s keys. I had the Walkabout through the BF Super Twin, and I was murdering the drummer with the volume at 9 o'clock. With efficient cabs (or just the one, in this case), a Walkabout can definitely be loud enough to hurt your ears. Mine are howling confirmation this morning...I know, I know, but I was all giddy and didn't use my attenuators. As I've said before: 300w my derriere...don't get hung up on the numbers 😀

So he's definitely not lugging anything about himself, then... 😀

You and most other people who bought one... 😀

It's worth mentioning that the Magellan does also have a dual Contour control which, while it's a little vague as to numbers, does add to the shaping possibilities, especially around the mids. And none of them come close to the frankly intimidatingly bonkers array of knobs on the Genz Shuttles...that 12.2 was just boggling, to be honest... 😕🙂

P-Tone, you say? GAS-inducing, you say? This is track that made me pick up a bass...15 seconds in... 😁

FRFR/DSP?

Yeah, the 2024 (and 1024) were both drastically reduced towards the end of their run (the 2024 could be had for £1600 and as low as £650 for a 1024) which kinda left the S/H values at little at sea. Is the P34 comparable with the 2024 or the 1024?

The 70s (especially the late 70s) are a very mixed bag when it comes to Fenders - there's lots of reasons for this, mostly around the CBS buyout, I'm sure there are many nice ones out there, but these two were basses I bought unseen (well, unplayed), and in those circumstances you take the risk. And in these cases they weren't good at all. Nothing disastrous like a twisted neck (tho it had a neck pocket gap you could have kept a spare pencil in), just an instrument which didn't feel or play as well as something which cost a fraction of what it did. Investing, however, is another thing entirely - I'm sure the 78 Jazz has doubled in price in the few years since I bought it, as it ticked all the investment/collector boxes, like original case, nearly unmarked, etc. It was just as something you'd want to play, it left something to be desired. Which is possibly why it was unmarked in its case after 30-odd years...

Yup, a couple of the worst basses I've owned were real-deal 70s Fenders. I sold them for hefty chunks of cash (market value) that were several times what they were actually worth without the name, the age, the mojo, etc... The 78 Jazz, in particular...I hope whoever bought it just hung it up as a trophy*, because it wasn't much of an instrument... * And if they did, I hope they used long screws in the wall: it was 12lbs+....

That would not surprise me at all...I had an older amp to a tech after a courier did their best to destroy it, it was a Tech21, and the chap said it was capable of putting out significantly more than the number on the front...

We're in Tonewood Territory, and that's a rootn tootn place full of shootin from the hip: there's no AB, because it's all very subjective, I think the most telling phrase is '...someone who has paid (a lot of money)...and would, quite understandably, like to think it was worth the cost and an improvement on a stock item...' Marketing Departments live and die by this... Oh, and roasted maple, like a lot of tonewoods, looks lovely 😃

Again for the record, I don't have any coloured basses, and the woods on all mine are unique...as are my ding patterns 😀

Lovely 😍

Yep: may or may not work, but the marketing departments love it 😉 For the record, I loved the BB2024 I played for a while one afternoon at Bass Direct, and might have bought it were it not £2.5k*, and one of the nicest precisions I've ever played was a RW...just a shame it was all scuffed in exactly the same places as the one hanging next to it... 🙂 * but hey, all that toasting and wobbling's gotta be paid for somehow, right? 🙂

And that's my favourite Class D amp, right there 😀

The numbers don't tell the whole story, though - I like Class D amps (especially the newer Gen), but the numbers don't line up exactly with volume (even ignoring cabs) with different designs, and Valve is different again: AB to D to Valve are not really comparable. Not that one is inherently better than another (that's a bag of rats I don't want to open), just there's no point getting hung up on numbers. I've had 300w valve, 300-600w AB and 500-800w Class D amps, and you know what? Most of them were very loud indeed. Also, the WA is rated at 300w, but that's at 4 ohms, and I've regularly run mine at 2.67, which equates to more output. The Super Twin, though, makes the WA capable of Very Very Loud, so I don't have to any more. It's worth saying at this point that tone and EQ are essential to consider: for example, an aggressive mid-heavy tone can sound much more immediate and louder than something dubby, and therefore not need as much power to be perceived as loud...

The more efficient cab thing works. I run a Walkabout through a BF Super Twin, and it'll hurt your ears, and drown any drummer, which is more than enough. Having said that'just for kicks I ran it with a Compact, too, and that was even louder.

They're both fake. As fake as a fake Rolex, and about as impressive.

Oh, and I went to a boys grammar, so a bit shoite, but with the possibility of buggery in the air. Mostly in the Music room...

I don't agree with the 'stuck' thing. Yes, I still enjoy music I picked up when I was in my teens, but like a lot of my friends I was very compartmentalised and prescriptive about my musical tastes. If it wasn't type of thing I'd decided I liked, I didn't give it house room. For example, and although I was a very keen bassist, you wouldn't have got me to listen to a Motown song even if you'd brought a pack of dogs and a big stick. As I've aged, I listen to (and play) and enjoy all sorts of different music. Still, it's an internet video, so it must be right... 😐

I have had them on a couple of basses, never had that problem. One thing I did notice is they don't like being taken off and put on again much; I snapped a couple when relocating them...

Read it too fast, and was quite excited...thought this was what it was... In this kinda way...

What he said...especially the bit about the paste... 🙂