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[quote name='Agwin' timestamp='1457545971' post='2999575'] Looks like it’s me up first again! Here’s this month’s noodle: [url="https://soundcloud.com/agwin/fretless-tune-march-noodle"]https://soundcloud.c...ne-march-noodle[/url] Played on my defretted Hohner Precision copy strung with dead rounds. Straight into Audacity then “normalised” (what ever that is – just seemed to make it louder) and a bit of phaser added. It just sort of formed it’s self out of thin air after watching a few minutes of Scott Devine expounding on arpeggios. I was subsequently inspired to fire up my Sibelius software and have a bit of a compose. I seem to have ended up with a potential ITV Murder Mystery theme. I’d be chuffed to bits if you could find the time to also give this a listen– It’s not very long about 01:20 in total. [url="https://soundcloud.com/agwin/murder-mystery-tune"]https://soundcloud.c...er-mystery-tune[/url] [/quote] Enjoyed that. Both bits. Think you could be on a money maker with your murder mystery theme song!

I'll pass the message on

Actual basslines this month eh... now that's a novel idea

I've bought him the Stuart Clayton book recommended earlier. He can work through that as he wants to. Like I said, he won't be keen to have lessons off me, but I'll try and teach him a few things, without him knowing that's what I'm doing. If that fails, I'll get him off his face on guiness and red wine.

Yeh i get that, i thought of it as a good excercise to "connect" his fretting and plucking hand. I'll take that on board though. Excercise will still work playing it as 1,2&4 on each string. Cheers!

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1457441634' post='2998558'] Firstly, don't do 1 finger per fret. Start with 1,2,4. Next get him into a band ASAP. [/quote] Any reason not to start with 1 finger per fret? I will encourage him to join a band. Dont think he will though, until he deems himself "good enough". He's a perfectionist so it might be a while!

Firstly if you are tuning your E and A strings to a point where you think they might snap, loosen them a bit because they're probably tuned sharp (too tight). It shouldn't take much turning of the tuners to hit the "next" note, whatever that may be. Im guessing here, but im assuming "D2" & "G2" mean you've tuned them an octave too high. This means you'd need to slacken the tuning pegs, to get back to D and G "standard" Hopefully someone with this app could confirm this to be the case. Please excuse me if i'm stating the obvious to you here, but you said you are a beginner so....

[quote name='Christian Houmann' timestamp='1456952849' post='2994053'] Still diggig my P's! Anyone else feel the love [url="http://s113.photobucket.com/user/Houmann/media/IMG_8595_zpsfbxnxh31.jpg.html"][/url] [/quote] Love them both, but i REALLY like the worn in maple neck. Looks great. Do you have a preference out of the two?

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1457440563' post='2998529'] Just looking at the software... I'm not too sure now... You may be able to use stronger encryption after all. I'm behind the times maybe! [/quote] On the tech side of things, i'm not up to speed. I do know our router is password protected though. I put the password on there myself. I'm just hoping that is enough for our needs really

Yup, first thing to show is correct wrist allignment. And then the "1 finger per fret" excercise

[quote name='EBS_freak' timestamp='1457437899' post='2998470'] Indeed you can. It's only WEP... which to be honest, for the average gig is going to be good enough as a deterrent but as people can probably gather, it's easily crackable with the right tools and a laptop. [/quote] You are right. Perhaps better to sort the problem before it happens rather than after... Proactive vs Reactive and all that

[quote name='Twincam' timestamp='1457437538' post='2998461'] For some these very basics can take a while. Be patient. [/quote] I'm pretty patient. Unfortunately my dad isn't. So i have to make sure to give him enough information to keep improving/learning, but not too much to make him overwhelmed i think

[quote name='Phil Starr' timestamp='1457435630' post='2998440'] I can't imagine anything better than playing with my son, but playing with anyone else is just a blast if you never expected to be doing it. If you play in bands you have all the contacts to make that happen. [/quote] Thanks for he advice Phil Yeh, i do think it'll be great when he can play straight 8ths and we can jam along together. I think he will get a real kick out of that. With or Without you was going to be the first song i pushed him towards.

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1457432442' post='2998391'] I found it odd as it's not something I've ever struggled with since I first started using one, never given the mechanics of it a second thought, you just just hit the pedal on the beat at the start and then again at the end of the last bar and it repeats the phrase between the pedal presses. She understood it... just couldn't get close to the right timing. [/quote] Our singer bought one before, and as great a singer as he is, couldnt grasp the concept of when it needed triggering. So funny too, as he was such a good singer, wasn't used to see him struggling.

[quote name='Oopsdabassist' timestamp='1457431906' post='2998380'] I do wonder about 'natural rhythm'. Our singer, he's being doing it for 40 odd years mind, seems inherently unable to sing some songs as the 1st word of a lyric comes in on the off beat, he just cannot grasp this and will sing the whole song half a beat out..does my head in as there are some great songs out there we'll never do, Walk by the Foos for instance [/quote] He's just really keen

[quote name='Coilte' timestamp='1457431218' post='2998373'] Here is the ideal thread from "Talkbass" on getting started. [url="https://www.talkbass.com/threads/how-to-get-started.1098564/"]https://www.talkbass...tarted.1098564/[/url] [/quote] Thanks. I'll send him the link. Marc - I do think it is partly natural, although some is possibly picked up depending on the environment you were brought up in. I know people who cant clap along to a song on ANY beat let alone the 2 & 4. And they're amazed when i tell them as much. No clue as to what is wrong with what they're doing. Then my wife, who doesnt play anything, was clapping along "in time" to a 3/2 cuban style bassline i was learning

[quote name='ians' timestamp='1457430504' post='2998356'] Ha.. he was only a lowly drone, and no pun indended. I guess playing an instrument is a funny thing and it doesn't appear to have a lot a lot to do with what we think we can do, some people can do it others cant I guess. [/quote] I think it's hard to teach someone rhythm. It is possible, but the process of learning becomes so much easier if someone has natural rhythm

[quote name='Marc S' timestamp='1457429857' post='2998338'] Sounds great Kert Good on you, for buying him the gear & getting him started Just ask him what his fave songs are, and show him how to jam along You'd be the best tutor, to get him started. Just think back to how Jon Caulfield taught you Seek out some blues and rock stuff on youtube, and judge for yourself which would be good bass lessons for him This is great news. Perhaps when I retire, I should learn to play too? [/quote] Well considering all he's done for me i thought the least i could do was get him started! I have all of Jons lessons saved in a folder, but i didn't go to him when i was an absolute beginner. So i cant refer back unfortunately. They're there for when he's ready though. [quote name='YouMa' timestamp='1457428817' post='2998316'] Introduced my dad to cleaning up recordings type software and plugins etc........Sometimes I wish I hadn't...I love him loads,but the phrase caveman with a calculator does spring to mind. [/quote] Haha at least he's having fun.... hopefully? I dont know much about the blues/rock genre to be honest. I know he likes U2, so i'll point him in that direction. Any blues classics that might be good for him to start out with?

[quote name='paulmcnamara' timestamp='1457366510' post='2997811'] Is the internal router not up to the job? [/quote] Ive never had a problem with the router. You can set a password on the router and that will stop others loggin onto it. I would recommend the X18 to anyone. It's been fantastic

[quote name='CamdenRob' timestamp='1457425606' post='2998262'] Sounds like a great plan... Retirement is the perfect time to do this sort of thing My dad has also recently retired and has taken up playing the guitar / songwriting again after my mum bought him a nice acoustic for an anniversary present. I bought him a USB interface and he's downloaded some sort of DAW. After much frustration trying to figure it all out he has now started recording his own songs and uploading them to soundcloud... ... hasn't played guitar / sung properly for over 40 years and two months after taking it up again his musical output is better than mine... [/quote] My dad is pretty good with technology actually, so i might get him something like that for his birthday (in Dec) if he is still playing then.

[quote name='4stringslow' timestamp='1457425648' post='2998263'] Play along to a few of his favourite blues songs. Root notes will do at first and help him to understand the basic blues structure (stick to the classic 12 bar blues at first) and help build his fretting and finger/plectrum skills. As he progresses, throw in some passing notes and some simple blues progressions. If it all clicks then expand the playlist, keep practicing and gradually improve. Or start lessons, be taught a lot of theory, told to practice scales, lose interest and give up. [/quote] Yeh i am going to avoid going down the theory route, to start with at least. My plan was to show him the basics of how to play with fingers, and how to use a plectrum. Then show him how to read tab. Then just go from there. [quote name='Happy Jack' timestamp='1457425786' post='2998265'] Buy him a copy of [i][b]Crash Course For Bass[/b][/i] by Stuart Clayton. It's all he'll need. Seriously. [/quote] Thanks Happy Jack. Ill stick the order in today

So, as above really. He has always loved his music, but never had the time to take up learning an instrument. He retired at christmas and has decided now is the time. Ive given him a small combo, and a lead, and bought him a Harley Benton Precision, to see if he's into it, so the gear side of things is done and dusted. Now it was a while ago when i first learnt, so with best intentions, im sure there's a few things i should tell him, or show him that i just don't remember. I said i'd help him out initially, and get him off the ground. So the question here is, where shall i start with him? What did you first start out doing? Any advice you wish you'd had when you first started? What kind of songs are easy for a beginner? He likes rock/blues primarily. Any suggestions/advice would be great. Cheers

Fellow Guitar strap buyer Very happy, and it arrived within one day of payment. Cheers Gareth

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