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[quote name='gapiro' timestamp='1366978962' post='2059765'] It is slightly disturbing that everyone is assuming walking when you say Jazz., Its not necessary for all jazz [/quote] No, but it plays a central role in many styles of jazz. If you can't walk the standards, you're not really a jazz bassist.

[quote name='grahamd' timestamp='1366966430' post='2059488'] +1 for the Ken Burns series. Really great chronological doc, with insights from the protagonists and the likes of Wynton Marsalis, in a fascinating sociological context too. They repeat it on PBS all the time. [/quote] Yes, I watched it first about 12 years ago. The local library had it on VHS tapes you could borrow. I catch it accidentally now and then when I'm channel surfing and it doesn't get old. The series had some criticism on the jazz forums/newsgroups at the time as it didn't tackle contemporary jazz in any depth, but it's really intended as a historical documentary. It takes a few decades to truly understand the historical significance of an event, and the series really focuses on the period encompassing the birth of jazz to the 1960s.

[quote name='Basschatfield' timestamp='1366908194' post='2058934'] I've started listening to jazz, alot of Jaco, Richard Bona and just jam videos on youtube. I shall be starting these songs now!! Ahh i love the sound of jazz I'll be starting a new uni course on music performance and theres like a whole module on jazz players and improvisation so that will. . . be. . . amazing! So jazz basslines are mainly built on walking basslines? [/quote] First thing I would do if I were you is broaden your knowledge of jazz and its history. The Ken Burn's Jazz series is excellent. [url="http://www.amazon.co.uk/Jazz-Film-Ken-Burns-DVD/dp/B002VPXZ0E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1366924358&sr=8-1&keywords=ken+burns+jazz"]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Jazz-Film-Ken-Burns-DVD/dp/B002VPXZ0E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1366924358&sr=8-1&keywords=ken+burns+jazz[/url] It's 12 hours long and Jaco isn't mentioned once... but don't let that put you off.

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u37RF5xKNq8[/media]

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1365007699' post='2034091'] Ah , now this is an interestinig one . The guy with the dreadlocks is now superstar DJ Jeremy Healy , and this seemingly trite pop record had a deeply subversive subtext . The lyric was inspired by the book Hollywood Babylon and its' description of John Wayne and his legendary and somewhat taboo sexual preferences . By the time the BBC found out it was way too late . They had already performed on TOTP complete with illustrative dance moves . A wolf in cheesy clothing . [/quote] The Wikipedia page is great: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Wayne_Is_Big_Leggy

I win... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXu8hd49ZZM[/media]

[quote name='cocco' timestamp='1364931740' post='2032969'] It's worth noting that without a truss rod there will be no relief at all, so it might change the feel of the bass somewhat, I'm not sure if the ray replacement necks have a rod or not though. [/quote] The Status necks have a truss rod... it's the Modulus necks that the original Cutlass basses came with that were rodless. Sound is a bit brighter. Not massively different.

Missed this thread. I'm in Aber.

[quote name='Lozz196' timestamp='1363516277' post='2013454'] I agree with not letting it drop and communicating with the shop by e-mail, so that it`s verifiable. One of the points I would make to them is that their receipt clearly states the item can be returned within 14 days, and that is what I would base any legal action on. [/quote] If it's within seven working days, he should base it on the DSRs... statutory rights trump shop policy every time.

[quote name='Beedster' timestamp='1363070019' post='2007751'] Hi folks, a bought a used acoustic last week via the internet from a London shop. The invoice stated that I could return within 14 days. I really didn't like it (I've played the same model elsewhere and this instrument didn't sound anything like as good as that one had) so I emailed them and asked if I could return as per the invoice. They've said a flat no as, in their words, the returns policy only applies to damaged or not as described goods. Any thoughts? Chris [/quote] If you've had it for less than seven working days, it's covered by the distance selling regs.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1363286826' post='2011140'] Is this weak G string thing supposed to effect all Stingrays or just an unlucky proportion of them ? I have never noticed this problen on any Stingray I have played or owned , and I can vouch for the fact that the G string on the rear pickup on my EBMM Reflex HH certainly doesn't sound weak . [/quote] I did notice it on mine... depending on the amplification I was using and how I had the eq set. Start with flat eq on both the bass and the amp and adjust from there only when everyone else in the band is playing and you'll be fine.

[quote name='MoJo' timestamp='1363084106' post='2007994'] It just came to me last night, what about owners of replica kit cars? How about the guy who built the Lancia Stratos replica that appeared on Top Gear? Will he be expected to remove all the livery and badges before selling it incase someone, several owners down the line tries to pass it off as a genuine Stratos? [/quote] You don't get a log book with basses.

[quote name='Elvis Valentine' timestamp='1362745693' post='2004109'] Not getting what i mean obviously. Its just a word that refers to a time period and maybe vaguely local (although not really). Not really helpful when trying to describe the sound of the bands in that given genre. Soundgarden = grunge, Stone Temple Pilots = grunge, Afghan Whigs = grunge, Mudhoney = grunge, and of course Nirvana = grunge. You get me? All very different stylistically, really. But all considered 'grunge'.[/quote] Yep, and largely bought and listened to by people who identified with that particular scene, wore the appropriate clothes and haircuts, smoked the appropriate cigarettes, had the correct political views and read Melody Maker to find out whether they were doing it right. And probably thought they were being terribly individualistic doing it. All very naive and sweet. I think "genres" genuinely were looser in definition back in the 1980s/90s than they are now, but that they commanded a sense of loyalty that is less prevalent now. Probably because music and information about it was less immediately available and you had to rely on word of mouth and magazines to tell you who you might like.

[quote name='Beer of the Bass' timestamp='1362739513' post='2003983'] I remember being told to avoid any bit of gear with "Professional" written on it, as it almost certainly wouldn't be. I think the "Custom Handmade" decal on the SX is about the same! It is a bit of a naff decal, which could get on your nerves if you like everything else about the bass. [/quote] I have a similar problem with the [i]Vintage[/i] brand name.

[quote name='Elvis Valentine' timestamp='1362701495' post='2003762'] 'Grunge' what the hell was that? other than a time period. lol [/quote] Grunge was really [i]quite[/i] important... I'm guessing you were too young to be there?

[quote name='12stringbassist' timestamp='1362697929' post='2003706'] If you pass it on, of course, I'm sure you would remove the fake decal. [/quote] Therein lies one of the issues I have with it. If/when it comes time to sell it, do you remove the fake Fender decal or leave it there and describe it honestly in the listing? If the decal is left on, will the next owner do the same when it's his turn to sell it, and so on... These things do end up making their way into the used market and, sooner or later, somebody buys them thinking that they're getting a real Fender. Check out this thread where a poster chips in about his "genuine 78 Precision" (post 5): http://basschat.co.uk/topic/168836-need-advice-on-fender-jazz-please

[quote name='MoJo' timestamp='1362662992' post='2002927'] I play in a classic rock covers band and recently bought a Phil Lynott look-a-likey SX P-bass. It's a great looker, great player and now with a set of DiMarzio pups in should sound as a good P bass should (I'll find out at rehearsal tonight). I know this is going to divide opinion, but I want to put a 70's Fender Precision Bass decal on to give it a more authentic look (the SX decals aren't doing it for me). Part of me is feeling that I'm a bit picky worrying about the decal on the headstock as part of 'the look'. What does everyone else think? Has anyone else done this? [/quote] If you don't like the logo, remove it and leave it blank. A fake Fender logo is lame.

[quote name='mentalextra' timestamp='1362559385' post='2001173'] So the story that he "ripped the frets" out and slapped on some yacht varnish is massively simplifying it Whereas the work was actually done to professional standards not so much DIY? [/quote] You have to take everything written about Jaco with a pinch of salt. He had a tendency to exaggerate things in interviews and often contradicted himself, including the story about how his bass became fretless: [quote]"Ninety dollars with a case! The most I've been offered for this bass is $80,000! That was in Europe. When I got this bass, I'll show you right here, these are the only scars I put on, just my thumbs. Everything else was exactly like this, just like I got it. I throw this thing around, I do flips on it, but I've never, ever, hurt this bass, ever! It looks like I demolish it every night, but I've never touched it; I've had it now for eleven years. The secret to the sound is to drop it on the floor!" he answered. "As I told you, ninety bucks with a case, and the frets were out. See this sh*t that looks like somebody chewed it up? That's the way it was when I got it. Petit's Poly-Poxy, that's what I put on the neck, but that sh*t won't go away."[/quote] Guitar World May 1983 [quote]"Have you always played a Fender? Yes, I have a '62 fretless bass and the one with frets is a '60. I took out the frets myself and refinished it. I have a few other basses for practicing and stuff. A lot of times these will be on the road or maybe they'll be over in Europe so you've got to have an extra one if you want to play at home. What do you use at home? Just Jazz basses. I don't like Precisions. They're too muddy plus they don't have that back pick-up which you need to get the sound. Have you changed the basses in any other way? No, they're exactly the same. My fretted bass that I play on stage has three pots in it; one for each pick-up and then a tone control. But it's one of those basses that had procentric knobs. Really old Fender Jazz basses had just two knobs and outside of each knob was a tone control. That's the way that used to be, but I just put on regular stock knobs because they're louder; those old pots were too soft. They sound great in the studio but when you're playing on stage I just had to change the settings too much every time."[/quote] Steve Rosen 1978 [quote]"Did you buy your bass with the frets already removes, or did you take them out? (Ed. Note: Fender did not begin to market a fretless bass until 1964.) When I got the bass, the cat who had it had taken the frets out himself, and he did a really bad job of it- left all kinds of nicks and chunks taken out of the fretboard. So I really had to fix it up. I filled in all the chunks with Plastic Wood. Hell, when I was a kid, I used to make a living by fixing and dealing old, beat-up instruments. I was the first cat to use epoxy on the neck of a fretless bass so the strings wouldn't eat the neck away. What did you use and how did you apply it? I used Petite's Poly-Poxy; it's boat epoxy. You can find it in any boating supply store around Florida. It's the toughest epoxy they make. You apply it with a brush, and it takes several coats. I used about six coats on my fretless, and it took about a day for each coat to dry. Did that harm the action? Not at all. It's essential. It saves the instrument from geting eaten up by the round-wound strings. When you remove those frets and use round-wound strings, there's nothing left of the neck. They eat right through it. (Ed. Not: Jaco's flawless intonation on his fretless is aided by the fret positions marked on the neck- the fret grooves that have been filled in.) You've been playing your fretted Fender a lot lately. That's all I've been playing, really. See, last year, when we were in Europe, my fretless got dropped off the plane or something, and the neck got broken. So for the whole last tour, I haven't used it at all. It's back in Florida getting repaired. I'm just waiting for the glue to settle. What is it about the old Fenders that you like so much? The old Fenders really have a punch, and not just a treble punch, either. More like a clear lower-mids; plus, they're quick. You can play that fretless real fast. And I feel comfortable with these. I've had lots of people make basses for me, and I own different sorts of them. I've probably owned over a hundred in my life, but none of them sound like these old ones."[/quote] Guitar Player 1984

[quote name='Leen2112' timestamp='1362512852' post='2000633']Shame I couldnt find any other stuff with him apart from the Ants. [/quote] Bow Wow Wow essentially were Adam and the Ants with a different singer. Leigh Gorman was in Soho, who did that Hippy Chick tune... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh6Uaqpm5sg[/media]

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1362525953' post='2000969'] I've seen Metheny's ES-175 from a few feet away. It didn't look anywhere in the condition Jaco's bass ever was. [/quote] Sure, but I imagine some of that will be down to camouflage. It would have looked a hell of a lot worse if it had a sunburst finish to start off with...

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1362523252' post='2000915'] Serious musicians? You going have to explain that one to me.[/quote] I was being facetious. [quote]I knew someone would bring up Rory Gallagher's Strats. You could add to that Kossoff's Les Paul and many other's that were well and truly used but generally most guitarists and bass players in the 60s and 70s wanted a nice new shiny guitar or bass. I remember in an interview Clapton said he used to trade his Strats in for new one's every year when he went to the U.S.[/quote] Clapton almost exclusively used the one strat, "Blackie" throughout the 1970s to 1985. Then it genuinely became too fragile to use regularly. [quote]I also remember Pat Metheny having very nice looking guitars (they certainly weren't anything like the condition Jaco's) when i saw him in the 70s [/quote] I was thinking particularly of this one: "[color=#000000]When I was about 16 the little thing to hold the strap on broke off while I was at a gig. I stuck a toothbrush in there so I could stand up, and it's been there ever since. This was originally a one-pickup guitar, and I put another pickup and set of controls in there. After the experimental pickup started falling out one night, I took it out and covered up the holes. There's gaffer's tape along the sides of the guitar because there are big cracks in there." Guitar Player Dec 1981[/color]

[quote name='BetaFunk' timestamp='1362512428' post='2000612'] I doubt it. At the time it was usually 'cool' to have a shiny new bass or guitar. If you got a ding in your guitar or bass in the 70s (and you could afford it) you'd px it for a brand new one. There are even tales of guitarists in UK bands when touring the U.S. would trade in their 'last years' guitars for new ones. Relics just weren't the fashion back then. [/quote] For pop musicians maybe. For "serious musicians", I'd say the opposite was true. The 70s was when the pre-CBS craze took off, when guitarists realised that the older ones were "better" than the then current crop. Certainly for blues and jazz musicians there is a certain cachet in owning an old instrument that has been played to death. Look at Eric Clapton's and Rory Gallagher's strats from this period... Look at Pat Metheny's ES175... Part of it is down to having found [i]the[/i] best instrument out there and [i]genuinely[/i] playing it for long enough that bits start falling off it. No new instrument can touch it, so why replace it? The rest is people wanting to project that image.

Piano all the way.

I don't imagine the OP is still around, but in case anyone else is interested I'll throw in a suggestion that sometimes confuses people. Aswad are better known in the UK for their slightly cheesy reggae pop single "Don't Turn Around" but go back a few years earlier and they were producing some fantastic stuff. Check out "Dub Fire" on "A New Chapter of Dub" [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GWw0hwjLxM[/media]

[quote name='rubis' timestamp='1360277426' post='1968139'] Favourite Andy Rourke basslines? I'll start it off..... Some girls are bigger than others.....chugs along like a train Still Ill......as already mentions it weaves around the guitar nicely What's your fave? [/quote] This Night Has Opened My Eyes