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1 hour ago, Maude said:

Look at the heel, you can see a thin strip below the mother of pearl which should be inside the body, the 'fresh' wood tapers down the side of the neck towards the fretboard indicating the neck has let go and pivoted forwards under string tension.

Well spotted!

It's a beauty. But it does have one heck of a high action!

19 minutes ago, itu said:

Yes, I am a killjoy: 450 is a carbon track pot. CTS produces series 282 and 284 with conductive plastic tracks. Talk about quality and low noise. 

The 450 series are advertised as being the highest quality guitar pots in the CTS range - are the 282 and 284 series with plastic tracks even better quality than the 450?

It sounds like the freq point of the treble on the preamp is just too high for your taste. How about leaving the treble flat on the preamp and EQing the treble end at the amp instead?

Here's vid demonstrating output measurement with a multimeter. Jump to 4m 30s if you want to skip the preamble.

Do the preamps have any input/output gain adjustment to play around with?

Yes, the bridge pup is surface mounted on the pickguard. The neck pup is fitted from below and has more adjustment. Here are a couple more pics. I have a spare tuner from a 60s 185 and a neck pickup mounting plate. If they're of any interest for your restoration drop me a pm. Ian

The body is a bit of a mystery. Here's a pic of my old 185 for ref. Is it possible that the neck cavity and other channels have just been filled and overfinished so well as to be invisible?! 

I've measured the DCR and inductance of the stock higain pickups in my 2019 Ric 4003S which come out as:

Neck - DCR 11.2k / inductance 4.0H
Bridge - DCR 11.0k / inductance 4.6H

Measurements were made via the output jack with the pickups wired in circuit. I realise they won't be exactly the same as if measured out of circuit but should be close.

I was surprised that the inductance of the bridge pickup was so much higher than the neck. The wind is pretty much the same as the neck so would the difference just be down to the larger magnet used on the bridge pickup?

The bridge pup lacks a bit of high end to my ears and doesn't clank like an 80s/90s Ric. I guess this is due to the current higains being somewhat overwound in comparison with earlier versions.

I know that one way to extend the top end would be to de-wind the bridge coil (say down to 9k) which would reduce the inductance and raise the resonant peak. Would using a smaller bridge magnet (or cutting down the existing one - it's made of a magnetised rubber-type material) be another way of reducing the inductance and extending the top end response?

Thanks for any input.

Here's a vid comparing bridges made from wood and metal. As he says, far too many variables between the basses for this to be a scientific comparison but interesting nevertheless. The wooden bridge has a fuller and much more balanced sound to my ears. Hmm, I'm tempted to do a bit of experimenting myself!

Might be worth having a chat with Alan at Project Guitar Parts ([email protected]). They have a lot of replacement parts for vintage Hofners. No pickguards for an Artist model on the site but they may be able to make you one or point you in the right direction. I think the pickguard material for the Artist is somewhat thinner than modern vinyl sheet so that's something to check if you go to a regular custom pickguard supplier. 

https://projectguitarparts.co.uk/Pages/hofnerparts.html

Well to be fair, all I was really saying in my first post above was that I'd experienced similar intonation issues to those mentioned by the OP. In my case the string taper went too far beyond the saddle and I believe that was part of the problem. I've obviously inadvertently ruffled a few feathers with my subsequent blabberings so will now reel my neck in! 

35 minutes ago, Hellzero said:

Thanks for the long answer, but I'm speaking about exposed cores, not tapered strings...

The same applies for exposed cores. If it also has an exposed core at the nut then the open string will be well balanced. But fretted notes will still have the same imbalance issues mentioned above. Also, forgot to mention, the higher the fretted note, the more pronounced the imbalance will be due to the proportionally longer element of exposed core over a shorter speaking length.

3 hours ago, Hellzero said:

The length of the exposed core or the tapered part has no impact on the sound or strange behaviour... Think piano strings and you'll understand.

The big difference with a piano is that the wound/tapered strings (ie. lower strings) have exactly the same amount of exposed core showing at the witness points at each end. The speaking length of the string is completely symmetrical - it has a taper at each end and has a straight pull across it's length from the anchor point at one end to the tuning key at the other. It is designed to produce a single note only, and the string geometry and mechanics of installation are optimised for that purpose. By contrast, a typical tapered B is only tapered at one end, generally has a different break angle at the bridge and the nut, and has the full string gauge passing over the nut. Which is quite assyemtrical. On top of which, it has to produce many different notes. When you fret the string you introduce yet another type of witness point, at the fret itself, which again is at variance with the taper at the saddle. In effect, whether open or fretted, a tapered string is heavier at one end than the other, which can give rise to unbalanced vibrations, which then causes the wierd intonation issues.

I've experienced wierd intonation problems with tapered Bs before. This wasn't due to poor string installation, it was down to the tapered section of the string being too long for the string anchor/saddle configuration of the bass. The taper/core ran too far over the saddle and into the string voicing area which can cause all sorts of odd effects. I think you get best results with a tapered B when the transition point is as close to the saddle fulcrum as possible. Finding a taper with measurements that suit a particular bass isn't always that easy.

Bear in mind that VAT is charged on the total cost of importing the goods which includes the cost of the bass PLUS the cost of shipping PLUS the duty. If the package passes through Parcel Force for final delivery (as some shipping agents such as USPS do) they also add on a handling fee of £12.

The Mid Sweep info sheet is here - http://www.east-uk.com/pdf/midsweep02.pdf

You'll need to tap a 9v feed from your existing preamp board (or battery connector). I'm not sure if it's best positioned before or after your existing pre, but it has simple screw connections for the wiring so easy enough to try both and see what works best. Either wire the pickups directly to the Mid Sweep and the output of the Mid Sweep to the input of your existing pre or vice versa.

Here are the cut and boost freq curves for the Musicman 2-band.

Also an interesting technical article about the original Baxandall circuit https://learnabout-electronics.org/Downloads/NegativeFeedbackTone.pdf

I think you mean the Mid Sweep 01 - https://www.east-uk.com/index.php/bass/single-stack-modules/mid-sweep-01.html

I have one of these as part of an SPM-02 modular preamp. Very usable mid control, particularly with the variable frequency sweep. Not sure how easily it would fit with your existing 2-band but John is usually very helpful with advice. If you're thinking of getting one I'd give him a call.

3 hours ago, funkle said:

Great deal! If only they did a forearm contour on these. I’m almost tempted to buy one and alter it...

I was concerned about the lack of body contours when I got mine last year but haven't found it to be a problem. The body radius is enough to soften the edges. If it had a hard edge like binding that would be a different matter! Great basses and outstanding value for money.

Probably made by Schaller to Ric specs. Hipshot do a Ric replacement tuner which is very similar but doesn't have vintage features such as the paddle rivet and the large slot screw on the cog.

https://hipshotproducts.com/products/hb5-bass-tuning-machine

Bought a Stingray pickguard from Adam, good chap to deal with, quick shipping (I had a tracking number within minutes of buying!), well packed and item as described.  Pleasure to do business with. Thanks!

Hmm, that's interesting, I'll have to have another play with mine! I know the wheel sets the frequency but I've always set the trim pot to a slight boost to get that mid-bump.

Great basses these. I'm intrigued by your EQ2 setting with the trim pot in the neutral position (neither cut nor boost) - can you actually hear a difference in tone when you switch between the flat (position 1) and EQ2 (position 3) settings?