Marvin

I've sold nothing (had nothing I want to sell) and only bought one bass from BC. Does that make me odd?

I wouldn't go for a 410 combo unless you're a Mr Universe type I've got a 210 combo and that's heavy enough - 36kg. Even that makes me want to rush out and buy a lightweight something

Dood's sold me on it. Now I just have the hard work of convincing the wife that I need a new rig. Wish me luck.

Forgot to add my combo sounded good last night and was ear splittingly loud even at less than half volume. Bit disappointing really as I've been GASing for a new rig and the 'not being loud enough' and 'it's not got the right sound' were the two reasons I was using to convince the house bank I need a entirely different set up. Oh well.

Somewhat disappointing gig last night. The songs we played well sounded really good. Everything was helped by not having any PA issues like we had at our first gig. We had a guy on the desk and he set the PA up very well. However, it was blatantly obvious we haven't practised together for the last 7 weeks. Some members of the band don't seem to have practised at all. Half a dozen songs were real car crashes. Also the place was virtually empty which was a little disappointing but not entirely surprising. Generally a bit crap

Thanks guys. I'll have a dig around for the older thread.

I'm not really in a position to buy one at the moment, but give it a few months I was just wandering what the general consensus was on them.

[quote name='steve-soar' post='1318731' date='Jul 27 2011, 09:31 PM']You're wrecked. [/quote] Probably red wine. Good for the heart but does funny stuff to the brain

Cool. I'd say his strap was at medium. Are we agreed on that?

[quote name='stevie' post='1318067' date='Jul 27 2011, 11:05 AM']You're putting words into his mouth, Marvin. What he is saying IMO is that you should think for yourself and not be a sheep. Self-styled gurus are often not quite what they appear to be. To quote Socrates: To find yourself, think for yourself.[/quote] Are you suggesting I'm just a sheep? Questioning, asking why and thinking for myself is something I probably do too much. It takes me literally ages to commit to buy anything as I want to make sure I'm buying what I need at the price I can afford. For example, there are a series of reasons why I've got a Fender Rumble combo that included cost, size, features etc. For gigging and practice I tend to place it on a stand to tilt it back or elevate it so it's not just playing to my ankles. I compromised and bought what was best for me. Unfortunately the detractors, of what is somewhat basic acoustic engineering, put up little in response apart from to say they're talking rubbish because no one else builds cabs like that.

A hearty welcome

[quote name='JTUK' post='1317688' date='Jul 26 2011, 09:54 PM']If anyone..typically, a new poster, asks for cab advice they get the stock answer.[/quote] Stock repsonse. '.......I'd get yourself a MarkBass cab....'

[quote name='silddx' post='1316803' date='Jul 26 2011, 11:21 AM']Tonewoods are a marketing ploy to get you to spend more money.[/quote] Philistine! Tonewoods give an instrument a unique 'core tone' and well you know it. I expected much more from you

[quote name='Dave Vader' post='1316712' date='Jul 26 2011, 10:14 AM']This. Also, it is written that if you are a chap and unable to play your guitar/bass naked without breaking indecent exposure laws your instrument is either too high or too low to not look like the very thing you should be covering. Especially if you have a Ric or a Thunderbird.[/quote] Some might say you're trying to compensate for possible inadequacies by placing your instrument at said height

[quote name='JTUK' post='1316568' date='Jul 26 2011, 07:44 AM']No.. it is just..and I've seen this in another thread..that certain people are trying to convince you they have invented the wheel which considering some of the people they are up against was laughable in that particular thread, but there you go. What I am saying here is, .. if the build is poor, ( conjecture ) the website is even worse, then why on earth would you jump straight out and assume everything else is just wunnnerful..?? So what we have is a couple of protaganists here who are largely ignored or unknown by the rest of the industry. When you start seeing independant reviews posted ..as opposed to someone who wants to 'review' his latest buy, to a lot of other 'fans', and when you start seeing these sold commercially and in pretty visable places then you might get past forum hype.[/quote] You seem to be trying to say that Bill and Alex are peddling snake oil, for want of a better analogy. Neither one, to me, seems to be claiming to have reinvented the wheel. Rather that there are basic principles that are manifestly ignored by the bass cab building industry. There are numerous examples in all industries where basic principles or best practice is ignored in favour of profit margin. Only when the consumer has become informed do manufacturers change. Most purchases will be made on the basis of brand with little or no thought as to the actual spec of a product. 'The industry' can ignore these so called protagonists as they have the marketing budgets to shout louder in order to maintain their profit margins. Just because you can't buy a Barefaced Cab in your local music store is pretty much irrelevant. As an aside, but poignant I think, I've noticed that several major bass cab manufacturers have started to boldly place in their spec list that their cabs are made from baltic birch, and that this is a real selling point for them. Considering that most of these cabs are in excess of £500 to £600 I should hope they were made of Baltic Birch given that the wood would account for probably less than 5% of the final retail cost of the cab. I'm more sceptical about the claims made by manufacturers whose product is design within the parameters given to them by bean counters.

[quote name='JTUK' post='1316302' date='Jul 25 2011, 09:23 PM']Or....the marketing and suchlike is poor...?? If companies can't get presentation right, then you might wonder about the credence of the rest of the stuff.[/quote] I'm afraid you just sound like you're on a wind up. Bill is never going to compete against ready built cabs, they are after all self builds. And, as Bill has already pointed out, Alex builds cabs that the majors can't as there isn't the margin in it for them. I don't see anything wrong with Alex's presentation and the vast majority of the people who have bought his cabs really rate them. But you're right, if it ain't broke why fix it? Unless of course it never worked to start off with.

[quote name='chrismuzz' post='1316234' date='Jul 25 2011, 08:50 PM']Depends what I'm playing! If it's anything technical i have it medium/high. But if i'm blasting out rock and roll on a 4 string it only works if slung low [/quote] You're right. It just feels plain wrong to play a punk rock number with the horn almost rubbing your chin.

[quote name='LawrenceH' post='1316221' date='Jul 25 2011, 08:44 PM']I like mine at the correct height... which is high shame it looks so silly [/quote] Tish tish, it doesn't look silly. My strap is high and I'm as cool as they come Up until recently I was middling, but found this was causing a lot of pain in my fretting hand, I do fret awfully. Hence I'm now on the high side to the point there's little left in the strap to go any higher. It must be said I look very professional.

[quote name='JTUK' post='1316176' date='Jul 25 2011, 08:02 PM']But, of course, the insinutation is that they'd make a better box. But the only people buying that argument are some people on sites like these. No one else seems to be buying their product. You don't see their kit out in the real world so maybe their argument hasn't reached there..or people don't fancy the product.[/quote] I think it's more a matter of cost. To make a box like that of Bill's design is probably not cost effective for mass production. I've had a stab at it (my wood work wasn't up to scratch) and a good friend of mine on here has made one. The actual making of the 'box' is quite involved. Are they better boxes? Well, my friend built a Jack12 and he said it blew the arse off his 4x10. The cabinet design was that efficient. I have no personal experience though. Why don't we get 4x10's stacked vertically? Probably because as consumers we are very conservative and would rather it looked nice rather than worked effectively. Major manufacturers would loose a lot of margin to make cabs like the designs of Bill and Alex. One may like to compare the whole issue to when James Dyson was getting nowhere with his 'cyclone' vacuum cleaner. Now everyone makes one.

I wouldn't have clue how to get my SR300 to run passive.

[quote name='stevie' post='1315794' date='Jul 25 2011, 02:58 PM']He'd probably be tempted to stick it somewhere else. You have to take Bill's contributions on here with a pinch of salt. One of his (many) regular lines is that Leo Fender didn't know how to design speakers and that guitar drivers should be stacked vertically. But go to his site and look at the guitar cab design that he is flogging for 15 dollars.[/quote] To be fair to Bill, the description that goes with that cab on his site is fairly consistent with what he always says. The cab is described as a 'Plan B' so hence I took it to mean a compromise. I always read what Bill and Alex have to say on cab design. Their criticisms seem to be aimed at manufacturers who want their target customer to think they are getting a truly engineered product when it isn't, especially high end gear. Most mass manufactured cabs are simply constructed boxes with drivers in them with little or no acoustic engineering involved in it's design.

Welcome. If you've got GAS this is a very dangerous site

Welcome

Welcome to the site. Brilliant place where you learn loads and have a good laugh. You'll fit in well as most of us profess to be rubbish I am.

[quote name='mashup' post='1315525' date='Jul 25 2011, 10:57 AM']Thanks for your insight & feedback. Im really only after a lightweight bass guitar with p bass passive tone. I guess looking elsewhere is the next step...but where?[/quote] To qualify my previous post though, a passive p bass tone is one I've never really been able to capture on the SR. It's an active bass with soapbar pick ups which may be why.