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[quote name='silddx' post='1118741' date='Feb 7 2011, 11:47 AM']Low end now liberated [/quote] We don't want to know when you've been to the loo. In all seriousness though, it does look very, very I'd quite like an instrument with an F on it myself. Oh and I don't mean a Fodera

[quote name='silddx' post='1118941' date='Feb 7 2011, 02:38 PM']Cool mate. I tried to stay away for a bit but I got the shakes and looked a bit pasty so I came back. I lasted a bloody week [/quote] You got the shakes so much that you wrote an ad selling the Warwicks. Those trembles can be awful

A singer I know - she has two bands, a full band and is part of an acoustic duo - was saying to my wife the other day that pub gigs are getting difficult to get. Her next gig isn't until April I must say I looked in the local press recently and there seem very few bands being booked and very few places left to play. As an example in the town I live in when I was in my teens there were 9 pubs and 2 clubs. This is now down to 4 pubs and there are always rumours regarding the clubs closing. What's it like where you are? Have you noticed any downturn in available gigs?

[quote name='Doddy' post='1116928' date='Feb 5 2011, 07:56 PM']But,I feel it does more of a disservice to the student if all they are taught is licks and shapes and songs(often with Tab)-which,let's be honest,a lot of people do. If a student is into metal,then there is no point comparing everything to Miles Davis,but the notes and the theory behind it don't change. You can adapt how you apply the chord or scale ("Hey...this is the scale used in 'Wishing Well" or whatever.),but there is only one way to spell a major chord or a pentatonic scale. So,like I've said you can adapt to the student stylistically and in it's application,but not really on the actual information.[/quote] I think we're probably saying the same thing. The information to be conveyed is the same but presented differently to the student, given a context the student can understand. I actually gave up lessons because the manner in which the lessons were presented weren't teaching me anything. TAB was used, I was given the major scale - which I already knew - to practice in a shape on the fretboard and a couple of walking bass lines but given no context of how they related to the scales or how they were constructed. I needed to know the hows and whys in order to understand what was being taught - that wasn't happening so I jacked them in.

My comment may not be relevant to the thread as such as it was more of a general point rather specific to Jeff Berlin. I know nothing of how he actually teaches and what is reported on forums and through other media is often a world away from what is actually the case. I can only assume he doesn't advocate quick fixes, which is no bad thing.

[quote name='LawrenceH' post='1115946' date='Feb 4 2011, 10:10 PM']I think a lot of people's issues with someone like Jeff Berlin are not because he's famous, or because they don't think he's any good, but that he comes across in many posts as very didactic particularly regarding teaching/learning. He is a fantastic player and his teaching and musical approach no doubt work for some people who will succeed very well thanks to his help. [b]But the most universally successful educators are the ones who realise that different people conceptualise problems in different ways, therefore alternative approaches are required for them to succeed[/b]. Jeff may well recognise that in 'real life' but online he does come across as taking a 'my way or the highway' attitude that is demonstrably wrong when applied in other educational arenas.[/quote] Totally agree with you. [quote name='Doddy' post='1116340' date='Feb 5 2011, 11:12 AM']The thing is,like I said in an earlier post,is that to learn the actual 'rules' of music,there are not many ways to go about it. There are a lot of different ways to apply them,but there aren't many ways to actually learn or teach them. A C major chord always has the same 3 notes. The first ledger lune under the stave(in bass clef) is an E. There aren't that many ways of teaching this. You mention about different people conceptualising problems in different ways-yeah they do,but a lot of these concepts are applicable only after the facts have been learnt.[/quote] There's a difference between passing on knowledge and educating/teaching someone. A good teacher will do so much more, and will adopt a variety of options in order to enable a student to understand and learn for themselves. A one size fits all approach (or my way or the highway) is doing a diservice to the student. And anyone adopting it really should consider whether they should be teaching.

[quote name='chris_b' post='1116343' date='Feb 5 2011, 11:12 AM']Who knows! A lot of very good music is made without the aid of a drummer or a singer.[/quote] You spotted the gapping hole in the question

[quote name='witterth' post='1116325' date='Feb 5 2011, 10:58 AM']Rough? yep,Taken Near Adswood, Stockport Gtr Manchester. A place where the milkman has a rear & mid upper machine-gunner.[/quote]

[quote name='witterth' post='1116258' date='Feb 5 2011, 09:58 AM']I think I felt sommat had gone wrong at this point and was blaming the dots or the Drummer. Well it was the drummer, not my reading.[/quote] Was it a rough neighbourhood? It's just that that looks like razor wire on top the fence

For me it's either the drummer or the vocalist and it's not easy to decide between the two. In a purely instrumental context where there are no vocals then I'd say the drummer without doubt. However, in a band that has a vocalist, I'm always reminded of a band I saw recently where the instrumentalists (we shall for now assume the voice isn't a instrument as such, contentious I know but it makes things easier) were all really tight in the main due to a good drummer. Yet it all fell on its arse as soon as the singer opened his mouth, absolutely dreadful. Conversely I was talking to a guitarist recently who said that their vocalist was spot on and the drummer absolutely dire but the crowd absolutely loved the band. For me as the bass player it's the drummer and at the end of last year I practiced a couple of times with a really good drummer. The instant he started playing I had a huge smile on my face. As a member of an audience though then it's probably the singer.

[quote name='risingson' post='1116016' date='Feb 4 2011, 11:20 PM']Where's the piano/keys in all of this?? Anyway. They all rely on each other, I could probably hash together an argument for why the bass is the most important but it would only be as valid as someone else's argument that the guitar is more important. Realistically I'd require most of the choices to place together a good band (including the triangle), and what's more, good players behind the instruments (including the triangle).[/quote] Oh arse! I put keys in the first poll but it didn't appear when I posted the thread, I've forgotten to put them back in

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1115822' date='Feb 4 2011, 07:59 PM']I thought you had trouser area problems for a minute.[/quote] Work colleague after listening to a radio report turns to the rest of us and says " I'm taking up smoking! Apparently it makes you importent ." You had to be there really

Which member of a band is pivotol? Without this person the band may as well just pack up and go home. I'll admit I'm still undecided at the moment.

Just a casual question Say for example you play an open D then an open A then a fretted note on the E string - with me? Which method do you use to mute the D and A? Please don't be embarrassed there are no right or wrong answers, this is merely for research purposes

[quote name='jakesbass' post='1110861' date='Feb 1 2011, 12:22 PM']I'm so pleased a basschatter got this gig, because a success story is a success story despite some of the rather silly comments that have been made in this thread. I'm a working pro bass player and I really understand the need to network in a tough business so I find it rather ridiculous that some people can do nothing but sit at home and criticise someone else's efforts. Good Luck Mike and Good luck Skinny Machines I really hope you have success and even if you don't hit it big, I hope you have great fun trying. Jake[/quote] Brilliant post Jake. EDIT: sorry, all the best SkinnyMike.

[quote name='Truckstop' post='1115510' date='Feb 4 2011, 04:07 PM']Volume. Truckstop[/quote] Well quite. When was the last time someone complimented one us for having 'a nice quiet tone'

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='1114491' date='Feb 3 2011, 08:49 PM']I was just noodling through the guitar part on my GS, I don't like the song but it's a nice warm up.[/quote] It's in my detest list. 70's blues rock is something I can't abide anymore. Can't really see where it's going to fit in a set that's got Greenday, Pink and Blink 182 in it. It'll sound out of place. Well it won't actually as it won't get played

[quote name='Johnston' post='1114475' date='Feb 3 2011, 08:38 PM']Cream Badge up next.[/quote] Another one that beats me. Not being an Eric Clapton/Cream fan doesn't help

I was trying to nail Layla, but it's just not clicking at all. Get midway through the verse and there's a slight rest and it just throws me completely. I'm not a Blues/Rock player and find it extremely frustrating when I can't nail a song that sounds so bloody simple.

He plays some real hidden gems, I really like his playing. I'd probably go as far to say he's my favourite bass player. I seem to remember reading that he's most musically trained out of REM, which would explain a lot. A really underrated player and musician in my opinion. Good to see others think the same.

[quote name='paul h' post='1112501' date='Feb 2 2011, 03:01 PM']Craig Martini. Or are we not doing serious answers any more? In that case please assume I have said something amusing.[/quote] He's so cool is surreal. A wicked player. I may have mentioned it before but Craig and I were born on exactly the same day - we are bass twins . Unfortunately for me Craig got all the talent on that day.

[quote name='ahpook' post='1111695' date='Feb 1 2011, 10:03 PM']i was very impressed when i found out who spoombung was[/quote] come on you can't leave that one hanging in the air like that

[quote name='bubinga5' post='1111670' date='Feb 1 2011, 09:38 PM']Just wondered if there has been any famous people on BC.. apart from Stuart Clayton.. Just spotted Sheldon Dingwall on here.. i wonder if Marcus Miller has ever taken a look, or Mark Kning.. hes bound to have surely.. i can understand why they dont, they would get too many PM's/Questions.. im sure Mr Dingwall doesnt mind though..[/quote] Stuart's an absolute top bloke. Knows his stuff and I've always found him approachable and helpful. Can I have that 5 quid now Stu?

[quote name='chris_b' post='1111448' date='Feb 1 2011, 06:56 PM']Why do we keep getting these questions? They are always asked by hobbyists about professional playing situations and include typically unrealistic views. Do you hobbyists go to work at any time not liking the journey/boss/co-workers/job/office/clients? I bet you do. Have you lot no integrity? Ah, hold on, I've got to go, Gary's on the phone about a gig.[/quote] But, music is something that people can be enthused by, be creative, indulged in and enjoy, hence it can be a hobby, as well as make a living out of it. I've yet to meet someone that lists stuffing envelopes through letterboxes as their hobby