Marvin

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='704986' date='Jan 7 2010, 11:30 PM']Y'know, I'm not entirely sure.... I think he likes you, though.[/quote] Cheers, give him a pat on the head from me

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='704975' date='Jan 7 2010, 11:21 PM']Along with what;s already been said, it's strongly tied to groove, feel and dynamics, too.[/quote] Indeed. Please don't think I'm being rude, but the Camel, any particular reason or just fancied a change. Deep apologies for going way off topic.

You gotta start somewhere. And it depends what you do with the blues. I always end up playing a shuffle beat which p1sses the drummer I jam with off because he can't do shuffle very well - which I've always thought was odd.

[quote]I totally dig "Sub Dub" on my POD X3 LIVE. I think this a top idea for a thread and not silly at all. It's something I've always wanted to know without realising smile.gif[/quote] Thanks for that. Much appreciated. I've been noodling with mine most of the Christmas and new year (and this week as I'm on leave). Some of the presets I will probably never use, but the two I've picked out really do stand out for me. I know some regard these units as unnecessary, but they are incredibly versatile. Tonight for example, Bass, little box, headphones and I'm practising, brilliant. Did some scales and arpeggios and treated myself at the end with some heavy distortion and metal style beat from the 'drum machine', for some out and out hardcore style. Well pleased. Then all the other stuff, DI , USB interface and so on.

[quote name='Sarah5string' post='704712' date='Jan 7 2010, 08:22 PM']as is Christopher wolst.... wolsen... wolsethen..... uh this guy. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7la0SndoCI"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7la0SndoCI[/url][/quote] I've only recently got into Muse, I'd stupidly written them off previously as Radiohead rip off merchant's (I can be a monumental idiot). I don't know if he's over or underrated but Chris Wolstenholme has really changed the way I regard changing sound and tone of bass. I like his playing I like what he does, although I wish he didn't have to make it look so effortless. When I first read the OP's first comments, I thought John Taylor underrated bass player? he's boll0cks. But then I realised I have never actually listened to his playing so couldn't possibly come to such a ridiculous conclusion. As for the Wooten's of this world - massively talented. His solo projects do little for me though. I respect what he has done for bass, but I don't like the music he plays. So as to whether he or someone like Miller or Clarke are overrated I shall sit on my fence and say I don't know. Someone who I think is always overlooked and overshadow by others of his time is Andy Fraser from Free. I started listening to Free earlier this year just as I picked up the bass again and really enjoy his laid back slightly funky playing. He does though somewhat get overshadowed by the likes of John Paul Jones, Entwhistle and Jack Bruce.

I recently got a zoom b2.1u. Running through the factory preset's there are the lovely through to the strange. My personal faves are A3 auto wah. Great for a funky sound. and A5 Miller's Crossing. Emulates Marcus Miller's slap sound through a SWR amp For twiddling at home, great fun. As there are other similar pedals out there anyone else got any favourites?

[quote name='Hot Tub' post='703308' date='Jan 6 2010, 07:20 PM']bluesparky - Many thanks! Much appreciated![/quote] +1 cheers [quote name='99ster' post='703622' date='Jan 6 2010, 10:53 PM']That is superb! Thanks for posting...[/quote] another +1. Love that man's playing.

Great selection of instruments. I've got to be honest I have never seen the Steinberger before, I mean one like it. Wasn't even aware such a double existed. The Wilkins is very nice. For me though that white corvette is sublime. Ever since you did the paint job on it, great looking bass. May you be very proud of your 'children'.

[quote name='gnasher1993' post='703374' date='Jan 6 2010, 08:04 PM']- Paul McCartney (sorry excuse for a bass player, sorry)[/quote] Probably because he's really a guitarist. [quote name='EssentialTension' post='703375' date='Jan 6 2010, 08:06 PM']Underrated as a bass player and has his own (large) sofa: [/quote] Plenty of room for BCers on that baby! Got a few bottles of vino, customers gave me at Chrimbo. As I don't drink I'll bring 'em around for anyone who wants them

[quote name='tauzero' post='702923' date='Jan 6 2010, 03:04 PM']It's all annoyingly illogical. I mean augmented and diminished - easy enough, you sharpen or flatten the note. Major and minor third, fair enough, that's what distinguishes the major from the minor, although this is multiplying terminology, and if you know enough to know what augmented and diminished mean, you should know what flattening a major third does, so why can't it be a third and a diminished third? And as for the dominant 7th, that's really confusing. TBH, I really don't understand why it gets to be referred to as the 7th because to me that would imply it was the 7th in the major scale, but it isn't, that's the major 7th. And the dominant (when referring to notes in a scale) is the 5th, thus adding another nomenclative confusion.[/quote] I'm ready to stand corrected but from my limited knowledge in a major key if you lower the 3rd by a semi-tone the 3rd it becomes a minor. It only becomes diminished if you lower it by a whole tone, or if the interval you or lowering is a perfect interval. Is that right? Calling it a dominant 7th does seem counter intuitive. I often see the 5th referred to as a perfect 5th.

[quote name='BottomEndian' post='702575' date='Jan 6 2010, 10:47 AM']Oooh, if you've got it, I'd be interested too![/quote] +1 please

It was nothing at all to do with me. Sorry, I can't help you whatsoever, not one jot.

You know theory Clarky, what's a fifth?

[url="http://www.jhs.co.uk/kinsman.html#bags"]Visit My Website[/url] I got one of these, if you scroll down it's the KPEB9. Kinsman Premium Bass Bag, it's the image last on the right when you scroll down to the premium section. It seems OK, but I don't haul my bass around much. It's quite well padded, got some handy pockets in it. But the zips seem a little tetchy. Cost me about £30. Although if I was looking to use it quite a bit, I would be more inclined to consider the mono or iGig.

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='701606' date='Jan 5 2010, 02:06 PM']I just jizzed a little.[/quote] Hope you had some Kleenex to hand! Cool bass. Don't usually go for that style, but it's definitely got something. Like the black and chrome.

[quote name='tauzero' post='701563' date='Jan 5 2010, 01:35 PM']I didn't understand Bilbo's post either. I can, however, give you a quick and dirty insight into the chords in C major. C major = all the white notes. Chords in that key are made up of the root note (C, D, E, etc) plus the 3rd and 5th notes above it in the scale. So we start with C as the root and get C, E, and G as the three notes. Move up to D, and you get F and A as the third and fifth notes, which makes a Dm. Similarly E, G and B gives Em, F, A, C = F major, G, B, D = G major, A, C, E = Am, and B, D, F = something odd that Bilbo can tell you about. My grasp of musical theory is pretty tenuous - it means I'm more likely to find a good note to play than a bad one, and it also means I've got a basic palette of chords to use when writing a song. Knowing the rules and deciding to obey them slavishly are two different things, though, and I almost invariably use a chord or two which shouldn't theoretically be there. Given that I also can't read music, what purpleblob said is almost exactly my position.[/quote] You don't know how thankful I am for that, it's been bugging me for ages and I couldn't find an explanation anywhere. Now it's been explained it's so logical. Thanks again. [quote name='Doddy' post='701579' date='Jan 5 2010, 01:44 PM']I've worked with Joe aswell. Top Bloke. Whereas,I am not a graduate and understood every word. Music is the same as anything else-if you don't study it,it is difficult to understand. I've been teaching a dentist recently,and he was amazed at how I could remember things like key signatures. I asked him how he understands dentistry,and he told me that it was easy!!!!! I never studied anything to the degree that I studied music,but understand very little about science-I suppose it's all relative. Oh, and the diatonic chords in C major are 3 major ( I,IV,V) and 4 minor.[/quote] The graduate thing does sound somewhat arrogant, but was not intended to. Apology Some of the theory I've read tends to ' make jumps ' and assumes the reader has made the same leap the author has. This sometimes leaves gaps in understanding that unless filled, inhibit you from progressing any further. You are entirely right, I spent 3 years studying full time to get my degree. And I'm trying to understand theory a little bit here and there, with job and family competing for my attention!

[quote name='bilbo230763' post='701367' date='Jan 5 2010, 10:58 AM']It sounds to me like you were given too rich a diet too quickly. In reality, all notes can be played against all chords - they all result in individual sounds/textures that can legitimately be used in the creative process. By KNOWING what each not sounds like against each chord and by KNOWING why and how it functions, you will be able to make informed decisions about what to do with each individual piece of independent information. Knowing that a dominant seventh chord resolves to a Major chord a fifth below (say G7 to Cmaj7) means you can always hear that coming a mile off. Knowing that it can also resolve to a Major seventh chord a major third below (say G7 to Ebmaj7), creating a completely different feeling, immediately gives you choices. The more knowledge you have, the more choices you have. A diatonic major scale over a dominamt seventh chord or a diminshed scale implying a flattened ninth? Or an augmented scale over a dominant? All different, all correct and all options you can use as a composer, orchestrator or improviser. But you can't digest this stuff in a couple of lessons. One of the most wonderful skills I admire, which is one I don't have although I do try, is the way great composers can use a simple theme and create a ludicriously complex array of compositions out of it. Doesn't matter whether we are talkng Kenny Wheeler, Javier Navarette, Pat Metheny or Edward Elgar - I would consider it almost unthinkable that these kinds of work could be achieved without some understanding of the building blocks. Throwing three chords together stopped doing it for me thirty years ago. Some of the greatest pop icons of the 20th century and beyond were only able to do what they did as entertainers because of 'trained' backroom boys like Quincy Jones, Lalo Schiffrin, George Martin, Geoff Gasgoine etc etc. And as for 'feel'. The celebrity 'stars' like Madonna, Sting, Whitney Houston, Paul Simon, Steely Dan etc etc are also often backed up by 'educated' players, be they Omar Hakim, Victor Bailey, Michael Brecker, Matt Garrison, Daryl Jones, Chris Potter and so on. So you cannot say that players who know their stuff are anywhere near being less able to 'groove' because they know sh**. After all, and with respect to those that groove their asses off seven nights a week, 52 weeks of the year, it ain't rocket science![/quote] I agree with the sentiment of the last 2 paragraphs in that knowing theory doesn't inhibit 'feel' and that many of 'stars' of today have been backed up by knowledgeable players. You can also site bands with one member who knows fu*k all yet is accompanied by someone who does. R.E.M always spring to mind. Mike Mills came from a musical family, his mother was a piano teacher and hence he has 'musical understanding' shall we say. Where as I read once that Pete Buck claimed not to even know one scale! So knowing theory is always good. However, I think for those of us who know little or no theory, we are turned off by the first paragraph. I, like Clarky, am a graduate and therefore regard myself as an educated person. Yet that first paragraph makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever. And although I suspect that understanding it would only come after a sustained period of study, the main problem I, and probably many others find is that the explanation of music theory is so often unfathomable. Take many of the texts on music theory. In so many of them you read along and you're thinking to yourself 'I'm getting this' then out of the blue all the 'rules' you thought you understood are blown away by one statement. That statement will contradict all you understand yet no reasoning or explanation of it will be given. A simple example. C major scale. I read somewhere that the chords in C major contain 4 major chords and 3 minor chords. And that was it. Nowhere did it explain why in a major scale did you have even 1 minor chord (it highlighted Dm). Call me thick but I don' understand it: minor chords in a major scale chord progression. And that's why us plebs get so fu*ked off with theory, there do not seem to be any rules. They change, mutate and no one explains what is happening. I'm off for a big cry now 'cause my head's hurting

Just got a Zoom b2.1u. Similar to the digitech I think. It's good and fairly well regarded on the forum (i think)

I was only 12 when he died, so a little before my time. However, I was watching BBC4 a couple of weeks ago and he was performing The Boys are Back in Town live. Absolutely brilliant, really got into it. From everything else I've ever watched or read about him, his death was truly sad a big loss to music. Everyone always refer to a decent man he was.

[quote name='leschirons' post='701105' date='Jan 4 2010, 10:59 PM']Find a drummer that has a metronome in his head[/quote] Apparently the one you want is called Roland!

I was going to seek out a new text on theory and the like but I think I will work through your very kindly constructed threads. With regard to fingerstyle, I've been trying one finger per fret on the lower reaches and failing miserably. Hence if 1,2,4 is good for Jaco on the lower frets I think it's time I modified my fretting to something that is more comfortable and hence probably will result in better playing. I read your paragraph on fingerstyle and breathed a big sigh of relieve. Thank you for providing this resource, I think I might be using it a lot in the next few weeks and months. Cheers Rich

[quote name='thepurpleblob' post='700495' date='Jan 4 2010, 02:36 PM']I think that's the most sensible thing anybody has said so far. To not have the time, the inclination, the interest to learn some theory are all reasonable excuses but to advocate that having knowledge is a bad thing is nuts.[/quote] [quote name='wateroftyne' post='700676' date='Jan 4 2010, 05:24 PM']Yip.. that's the situation I'm in, and I agree.[/quote] I agree entirely. To say that learning theory will inhibit your playing seems a truly bizarre thing to say. Time is what hinders my learning theory, unfortunately. Which is why lessons are off the menu.

[quote name='dangerboy' post='698083' date='Jan 1 2010, 04:29 PM']It's a pity that they didn't put an aluminium neck on it too. I love my all-aluminium hollowbody. [url="http://www.flickr.com/photos/dangerboycreative/2053175941/in/set-72157603263405555/"]http://www.flickr.com/photos/dangerboycrea...57603263405555/[/url] I wonder if all those rivets mean that there's a wooden core running through the body with the bridge, pickups etc bolted to it.[/quote] I quite like the original link (like the finish, not the shape though). And really like the all-aluminium hollowbody. Aesthetically I prefer them to the exotic woods, but then again I have quite an industrial taste when it comes to design.

[quote name='Jean-Luc Pickguard' post='700326' date='Jan 4 2010, 11:39 AM']What's up with that website? click on one the links & it tries to download a php file. Try to go to the home page, at worshipguitars.com and it says access denied. I wouldn't be surprised if those basses were coming out of the same factory as sx - generic copies sold under any number of names at a similar price. Then again Jesus was a carpenter by trade, perhaps he made the basses, but isn't quite as good at making websites.[/quote] I thought it was just my connection for a minute. At one point it said I didn't have permission to access the server. They look ok, and for some reason I quite liked the pink one

[quote name='Mykesbass' post='700425' date='Jan 4 2010, 01:31 PM']Sorry Marvin, beat you to it in my original introduction post - the old ones are the old ones...(trio sounds far to poncey)![/quote] Darn, thwarted again