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Ah mate. You’re a gem. I really appreciate this. I’ll redo them as L on own, R on own, and together. I haven’t figured out how to do both together yet but will do. I’ll try and do a sketch of the room as well. It will shed some light I suspect...
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Ok, I'm still wrestling with REW and how to get it to show what I want. The measuring side seemed straightforward enough - Sonarworks calibrated omni mic and mic cal file loaded into REW, getting the software set up etc. It's also complicated by the fact that I got a second screen and had to shift my studio monitors around a little to accommodate it. So the Sonarworks measurements will likely not be directly comparable, as I've moved the monitors forward a good 6 inches. Nonetheless I have some stuff I can post. SPL/freq chart smoothed to 1/24. This is averaged from a few responses in the sweet spot and moving it around by an inch or two: I'm guessing -55 dB is the baseline here. Lots of ongoing ringing out in the low end. And the mids....lol I'm going to need a little help interpreting this one. My take on it is it looks like I could use some fairly major bass trapping. That's an understatement... @Skol303 what do you reckon mate? Thanks kindly once again. NB. The shape of the space is pretty odd. It's in an attic room; 3 of the 4 walls are basically shaped/angled to match the roof (!); the other wall is flat but has virtually no space to put corner bass trapping in as a radiator is wedged in there. I'll take pics of it, but basically if I'm going to do bass trapping I'll probably have to do it on the ceiling, on the single flat wall and where the flat wall meets the ceiling....
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Thanks Skol. I’ve downloaded REW and will get going with it over the next few days. Thanks for your very detailed input!
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Thanks Mornats. I’m going to fire up Room EQ Wizard and see if I can get an idea of what the reverb decay is like in the room as well. The ‘clap test’ sounds fine, if somewhat unscientific. Sonarworks has a setting (with long latency) which minimised phase issues with the EQ correction. Gives high latency, but it sounds good....
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Here's my completely untreated, carpeted (eeeek!), weirdly shaped attic room which I am forced by necessity/politics to use as my little music mixing room. Or at least what Sonarworks makes of it.... The bass null around 80Hz and mids null around 300Hz are pretty significant, as is the huge chunk of treble lost around 9-14kHz. You can see my monitors don't really put out anything significant below 50Hz (Equator D5s). And some interesting resonant peaks at 150Hz and 7-8kHz. (My headphones do have more low low bass, oddly enough - Denon AH2000. Graph below.) Sonarworks doesn't do FFT analysis so I can't tell you about reverb time. Given that the entire floor is covered in carpet, I assume it's not going to be huge...idk though... Given that I can't uncarpet the room, knock down walls, or turn it into my own personal studio (the space is shared with the good lady), all I can say is that Sonarworks has seemed to take what was a very weird sounding space and at least made it usable. The more I have been reading about acoustics, the more I am convinced that I'm going to need to design a room for this in the fullness of time. I'm just going to do the best I can with what I have for now. Quick question for the experts: how bad is this room as it is? (Sonarworks obviously does a lot of corrective EQ on the various nulls and peaks, which seems to work in the very small area that is my listening zone...) Thanks. Pete
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Any comment on room EQ software like Sonarworks? I’ve had a good experience with it. I have a small room that I have absolutely zero treatments on. It’s not politically possible, as it were, to make that happen (yet). Sonarworks did an amazing job in that setting of making the monitoring usable. At least IME. EQ of course doesn’t sort out early reflections, reverb, etc in a room. And the effect is really only good for a small area between my near field monitors. But it has made an appreciable difference here...
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Lol. I'm going to suggest what I was using. Tecamp Puma 900 (500W into 8 ohms) is loud as hell into the F112. The voicing options on the head work well. The bass knob cuts at 30Hz so acts as a HPF for some rooms. 'Taste' knob radically changes the sound from crisp/clear to 'old school' middy/thumpy. The treble knob is set a touch high for my taste, but I only really tend to cut a bit there, so no biggie.
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RMS handling is as per the Eminence 3012LF woofer specs - I cannot recall the data sheet immediately, but I think it’s 450-500W RMS. I remember thinking the rating was extremely conservative. Ed Friedland talks in his review (link in my original post) about driving it with 1200 Watts into a single cab without an issue. I certainly can’t hit the limits of the cab with 500W RMS... Weight is listed above in original post. 37 lbs each, according to the bathroom scales...usual caveat about bathroom scales should apply...
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Evening all I hope I don't need to explain too much about these. Super high-end 3-way cabs with a ton of low end welly, volume, and clarity to match. I haven't played a finer cab. Or set, in this case. I'm basically not gigging and probably won't be for the forseeable future. However, these have served me well and I've been real gentle with them. I recently touched up a few scuffs with Duratex from the maker (Tricky Audio, here in the UK). So they look great. Hopefully the pics give good detail. 1 cab has the low end of output of a 4 x 10" and the volume output to match any other high end 1x12 - Berg, etc etc. 2 together is sweet. For most of my gigs 1 cab has sufficed. 2 is very very good indeed. On my bathroom scales they weigh 37 lbs each. (Caveats apply about bathroom scales, obvs). Size is 20" x 16" x 16", each cab is 8 ohms. Power wise they can handle a huge amount - I've never reached their power limits with my amplifier. Here's Ed Friedland giving his one a test run: And his positive review in Bass Player: https://www.bassplayer.com/gear/greenboy-audio-fearless-f112-cabinet-reviewed I will consider splitting the set. However they are mirrored so that they match when both in use. It's probably better that both go to a single home. These I'll sell for £1100 for the set. PM me and we can talk about shipping, dicker about price, etc. No trades; cash is king, etc. Happy for anyone to come and try them out; however once my Tecamp Puma 900 head sells, you'll have to bring your own head. Pics are taken in order of each cab, then of the two together. Edit 24/6/18: One sold. One remains. Edit 28/6/18: both sold. Thanks all Pete
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Hey all I'm not gigging enough recently to justify keeping this head. It's been well gigged, but very babied. I love it - the Tecamp Puma 900 head. Loud, compact, powerful, and easily transported. It's great. 900W into 4 ohms or 600W into 8 ohms. 1U high, 2nd gen version. 2.4 lbs! £500 £450 including shipping in the UK. PM me with offers if you like also. No trades, thanks...I've got to pay for kids stuff and the car...lol Pete
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Pmjos nailed it really. I have owned both Amp one and Amp three at various points. Huge huge low end output from both. Stupendous. Too much for many scenarios, but intoxicating. Easy to EQ up or down, depending on need. Great EQ on both. Lots of connectivity. Very loud. Not 2x12 loud, but definitely loud. I ditched both because I could not hack it without a tweeter/horn for top end. Beautiful warm sound out of both otherwise. Punchy. Great little amps.
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Brilliant idea. Nice work. I'm almost tempted for one.
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[quote name='oldslapper' timestamp='1508319143' post='3391275'] Any bass where the top strap button is higher than the 12th fret. I love the sound and feel of Spectors for instance, but reaching for the 1st fret is an uncomfortable stretch, unless I have the neck pointing upwards. I tend not to care what a bass looks like, not that bothered what it sounds like, but it has to be comfortable to play. [/quote] Also this. Strap buttons at 12th fret and above...why do people do this...first fret reach is a million miles away. Impossible. I'm looking at YOU, Warwick Thumb Bass.....