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[quote name='stu_g' timestamp='1490773177' post='3267754'] Godin bg 5 string 22 frets emg soapbars schaller adjustable bridge and strap button is in line with 12th fret. [/quote] Never heard of these. Youtube demos sound good....brilliant. Will see if I can hunt one down to try out. Can't find any new....but thanks! Edit: Even with the Godin, though, you can see they have their bridge pretty fair away from the tail of the bass....but 34" scale might make overall reach to first fret not bad still, and where the strap button is means it will probably hang well. Going to have to try one!

[quote name='XB26354' timestamp='1490773081' post='3267752'] MTD ado a bass with a 35" scale and 21 frets. Balance is perfect, 1st fret not too far away and modern sound with Bartolommeo humbuckers but they are expensive and the 24-fret versions are more common. [/quote] 19mm string spacing. Not adjustable.

[quote name='hubrad' timestamp='1490741060' post='3267657'] Look at Overwater.. Perception should be a good starting point. I'm on with a less reachy one at the mo, and pickups and spacings are totally open to discussion. Carlisle is a pretty easy and pleasant jaunt from Edinburgh, too! [/quote] Thanks kindly. I've tried one and it sat too far off to the left for me....24 frets, upper horn strap went to between 12th and 13th frets....it just didn't work out for me.

I'm sorry to say that the Spector body shape suffers the same problem as Warwicks - look where the upper horn sits and how far away from the tail end of the bass the bridge is. It will never work for me ergonomically.

[quote name='markstuk' timestamp='1490771233' post='3267731'] Just curious - why the requirement for 21/22 frets ? [/quote] Because most manufacturers accommodate the extra frets (even thought the scale length is overall kept the same) by moving the neck a little further out to the left (and keeping the bridge in the same place they are generally accustomed to) - thus making first fret more awkward to reach. This is one of the reasons Warwicks are awkward for me; the upper horn doesn't generally go to 12th fret, so they tend to neck dive when I wear them, and their bridge is so far from the tail end of the bass that the first position is waaaaay off to the left and hard for me to reach. Occasionally someone moves the bridge closer to the tail end of the bass, thus keeping first fret in easy reach, but mostly they don't. This design requires a deeper cutaway to still allow upper fret access, and I guess many designers don't want to do that.

[quote name='fretmeister' timestamp='1490738021' post='3267619'] Do what I did then. Get a good Ray and replace the pickups and preamp. [/quote] Possible. I considered it. But it costs a fair chunk to do that...getting the bass and the pickups/etc....out of interest, though, what pickups did you put in instead? The point of this thread is to find things I'm not aware of that are stock and meet my requirements. There may not be many things out there, but hopefully someone will know if there's stuff I haven't looked at.

Oh yeah. I don't like Musicman instruments either....just cannot mesh with the signature sound out of them. I realised they meet all requirements above.

Hey all I'm selling a few basses and looking at buying a different 5 string. However, I have worked out that being a little shorter and having a shorter reach does affect what instruments are comfortable for me. I have therefore come up with some very specific physical requirements for the instrument. I also want a modern sound, so don't want anything with P or J bass pickups as such - humbuckers, plus or minus active electronics, are what I'm looking for. So, can anyone tell me about 5 strings that meet all of the requirements below?[list] [*]21 or 22 frets max (no 24 fret instruments) [*]34" or 35" scale; 35" preferred [*]Double humbuckers/soapbar pickups, ideally with active electronics [*]Good B string [*]Upper horn strap button reaches the 12th fret (or 11th fret, if going for the ideal) [*]17.5mm string spacing (18mm or 19mm I just don't like). [/list] So far, I've found the G&L M2500/L2500 meet requirements. So do the older Peavey GV basses, though I cannot find one in Europe for love nor money. Are there any others I'm not aware of? Thanks in advance for your help. Pete

[quote name='Phil Starr' timestamp='1490286007' post='3263971'] Again with the original Basschat 12 design which I've been gigging with for over a year it takes some getting used to. With a flat but extended bass response and no upper mid peak as per the majority of bass cabs it is odd sounding at first but responds really well to eq tweaking. Starting with no colour or very little lets you get to the colour you want. If your cab is coloured then it is going to be difficult to dial that out completely. It's a whole different philosophy to design, a cab whose design will give you 'your' sound and which effectively becomes part of your instrument or go for something that is flexible enough to dial in the sound you want. Ironically having designed a neutral sounding cab I dial in something not too dissimilar to an Ampeg sound [/quote] Same. I put a pedal in front of it for colour - Zoom B3 - and use the Fliptop or SVT modes. Haha

[quote name='stevie' timestamp='1490284375' post='3263951'] The speaker used in the F112 certainly woofs very well indeed. Interestingly though, the Beyma SM212 we used in the BC 1x12 DIY cab goes just as low. I have both here and have measured them in the same cab. If I didn't roll my own, Greenboy's creations would definitely be at the top of my wish list. [/quote] The BC 1x12 is going to be one heck of a cabinet then. There are some incredible lows out of the F112.

I also went through a phase of missing the voicing of typical bass cabinets. The F112 is pretty even in response. I would say it has a huge low end, more than enough for just about anybody. I'm getting used to the cab now though.

Thanks.

Perfect. Thanks. It's back in contention then...lol EDIT: how tall are you? I'm 5' 9"...perhaps I suffer from having shorter reach than others....lol

I've been eyeing up these for a bit, but am concerned about the upper horn extending only to around 13th fret. I have generally found this makes basses hang further over to the left, and makes the first few frets much harder to reach; also I generally find instruments where the upper horn does not reach 12th fret or further have neck dive. Do you have any comments on reach to the first few frets and balance on the strap? Thanks. Pete

Awesome. Thanks for that. Alex has kindly been in touch since seeing the thread - I think he was understandably pretty busy and thought he had responded. Anyway, I'll be delighted to pick up a BF 1x10 after I sell a bass. I'd love to get a GK head to go with it, but for now I'm just going to use my Puma 900 really carefully with it...assuming I can safely get away with it...

15 lbs for any bass cab is a minor miracle. I'll get the Barefaced after I sell a bass, then. Use my Puma head with it.