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Thanks, just had a look at BK's website. I'm really interested in doing something like a Berg IP, but lighter. No clue about DSP, measuring cab SPL/freq responses, etc, so probably a non starter for now. I'll have to do more research, I think. The QSC K12 etc are a great idea - we just need a bass-specific version one of these days!

Interesting thread. Fair points on both sides, to one degree or another. I don't have a horse in this race, having tried and just returned a BB2 (great cab though!), but I do respect the hard work and R&D which went into it. I think most small businesses go through issues in the first few years of starting up. On the whole my Barefaced experience was straightforward and I knew getting in how long it would roughly take. I made provisions for that. I had a great opportunity to try out something cutting edge, and make use of an excellent customer service where I could return it if needed. Cosmetics were good, as far as I was concerned. Not at Bergantino CN cabinet levels (probably the highest level of build I have seen), but good. Seemed durable, loud as advertised, light, you know the drill. In the long run, Alex can take what he wishes from constructive criticism, and the market will dictate his success (or otherwise).

[quote name='Kiwi' timestamp='1360707449' post='1975298'] Now that is interesting! Thanks! Last time I looked on their site there weren't any angled cabs. But that was probably a year ago. Making it active wouldn't be difficult with the right modules and cooling. [/quote] Resurrecting this thread...Kiwi, what modules and cooling were you thinking of implementing for a fEARless wedge monitor?

[quote name='bassist_lewis' timestamp='1385978109' post='2294160'] I separate performing and practicing in my mind which seems to translate directly to your convergent and divergent. Practice, so I read in "Talent Is Overrated: What Really Seperates World Class Performers From Everybody Else", should be an effort , you should be working hard and being aware of everything you're doing and adjusting. It should be exhausting! Performing on the other hand should be completely unconscious, it should be easy. Studies on improvising musicians found that when improvising there was hardly any activity in their frontal cortex - where conscious thought occurs. Equally you could practice that skill as well at home by jamming to a tune or a loop or playing any old bollocks while watching TV. [/quote] +1.

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1385833245' post='2292680'] You are getting through new gear as quickly as me this month Funkle! [/quote] True that...having a great month though! I even managed to get some time with an AER Amp Three. Loud, nicely voiced, small and light. But not truly girthy down low (in the Acme sense), and no tweeter, so no sparkle up high. But it would work well for a lot of people - very punchy. Damn expensive. The joys of mail order and distance selling regs...if it don't work for you, send it back. There's no other good way to try out gear you can't get to that I can find!

Just got to try out the CN112 with my Streamliner 900. Awesome. Extremely clear sound, can dial up plenty of bass or cut the mids to get a similar apparent bass boost. It sounds great. Apparently more bass is yet to come after it breaks in a bit more (according to Talkbass users). I can see what JTUK is talking about when he says there's a kind of 'dryness' in the mids (?upper mids? - can't remember the thread but remember him saying it). Really noticed it with an ash/maple bass. Easy to EQ out if desired with the Streamliner. Looks well made, super light. A definite standalone solution for small gigs and rehearsals. I'm going to try hooking it up to the IP112ER tomorrow and see if I can knock down a wall! Pete

Hi all For your interest, I have seen that Ed Friedland has gotten around to doing video reviews of the extremely expensive AER Amp One, Amp Two, and Amp Three. Ed sounds good, as usual... AER Amp One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_MiimcHKGQ&feature=share&list=UUranFvDA8I4qHg8GweBmDEA&index=1 AER Amp Two and Three: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp8whYwmm6Y&feature=share&list=UUranFvDA8I4qHg8GweBmDEA Given the size of the boxes, I assume there is some electronic trickery built into these amps to give the volume and apparent bass response they apparently possess. I assume some big EQ bumps around the 1st harmonic of the E and B strings? Plus compression/limiting? Comments welcome. Anyway, the videos sound great. Hang on to your wallets... Pete

Hi all For your interest, I have seen that Ed Friedland has gotten around to doing video reviews of the extremely expensive AER Amp One, Amp Two, and Amp Three. Ed sounds good, as usual... AER Amp One: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_MiimcHKGQ&feature=share&list=UUranFvDA8I4qHg8GweBmDEA&index=1 AER Amp Two and Three: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp8whYwmm6Y&feature=share&list=UUranFvDA8I4qHg8GweBmDEA Given the size of the boxes, I assume there is some electronic trickery built into these amps to give the volume and apparent bass response they apparently possess. I assume some big EQ bumps around the 1st harmonic of the E and B strings? Plus compression/limiting? Comments welcome. Anyway, the videos sound great. Hang on to your wallets... Pete

Ok, the DVD of Dave Liebman's is 1 hr 30 min long. I took notes. Will post up more later, but the written article referenced earlier in this thread indeed covers a lot of what is on the DVD. It's a great resource and very clearly lays out a path of what to do when you transcribe. Interestingly he says the main bulk of transcribing should be done over a couple of years, often 3-4 hours per day though! Then you move past it, though you still learn music in general using transcription (as opposed to charts) thereafter and you continue to transcribe small sections of things selectively, as they interest you. He also says you should transcribe only the greats during this period, as they represent the artistry others are trying to achieve. So, for starting transcription, Miles, Stan Getz, Paul Desmond, Wynton Kelly, for example. Then moving onwards after that. Also, each transcription and subsequent work will take so long you'd really better love the solo/that artist... Well worth it.

Any further thoughts? I'm waiting on one pending the return of an HD112. Going to pair the CN with a Streamliner...or as second cab to my IP112ER. Did not get on with the HD112...though it's the same woofer as my IP...

I think the point of 'practice' as such is to cover new material, which, by definition, is not known to you well. I don't think it matters what sort of music you play, learning the facts of music (arpeggios, scales, approach notes, tensions) is going to help you. Fun stuff is fun, and time needs to be made for it. But I'm not sure I would call it formal practice. Though practice time need not be dreary either...but it does need specific goals and an overall idea of where you are going. I generally find I can trust a teacher to do this better than teaching myself. I've tried both ways...

For me: Convergent = practicing Divergent = playing Practice time is therefore convergent. To my mind, practice time absolutely needs to be focused on specific goals. 'Divergent' sounds like noodling/exploring. Fun, but not practicing.

[quote name='chris_b' timestamp='1384479033' post='2277298'] You've got to know when enough is enough! [/quote] Why? I'm having fun...and they happened to have one in when I was buying strings. Pretty rare thing to see, so I thought I'd have a go. Acmes kept me GAS free for 5 years, think I'm happy having a good look around planning for next 5 or more...

[quote name='owen' timestamp='1384443265' post='2276772'] How did the BB2 compare to the Acme for low frequency extension. Obviously the BB2 would have significantly more ultimate heft, but did it have Acme-esque LF "openess" (for the want of a better word)? [/quote] I thought so...though I'm sure it's not tuned as low as the Acme. Let's just say, good enough for my ears. Though I don't have a low B any more, just playing 4 string. The Berg IP seemed to have an incredible low end though - bigger than either the B1 or the BB2 (at equal volume). And I'm certain that it's doing it with compression and psychoacoustics...but what can I say, I really like it. I keep playing through the BB2 and not wanting to send it back though - I found a new setting turning off the horn completely which gave a very cool gritty old school cabinet tone. As I said before, with the horn on, it has an beautiful and clear upper mid/treble which is really great sounding. Better than the IP112ER for sure. And the horn will have better dispersion than the tweet in the Berg in a big room. Decisions, decisions. As an aside, I tried out one of the AER Amp Ones at the weekend - a local shop had one, and it has such a good rep that I thought it was worth a try. I did not like it. Loud, but boosting bass made it boomy to me. I don't think it can enjoy much true low end in the sense of Acme etc, but of course it is much more efficient as a result. I guess others will find it suits them just right, but my taste in low end is a bit deeper than conventional. I think The Dark Lord has two of these combos and loves them...fair play to him.

Sorted my noise problem - turns out using the Zoom power supply as opposed to 2 other generic ones (both of which are meant to supply more power) was helpful.

[quote name='nottswarwick' timestamp='1384110775' post='2272896'] Is it going back then? [/quote] Sadly, yes. 'Big rig' stays in the house till needed, little rig stays in the car boot all the time, ready to go for small gigs. No room for much else!

A couple of pics, showing relative sizes of the cabs and what the BB2 looks like with and without crappy mobile phone flash. [attachment=148093:IMG_2613.JPG] [attachment=148094:IMG_2615.JPG] [attachment=148095:IMG_2616.JPG]

Thanks man. A shorter review could have been: An excellent cabinet whose only contender is another extremely specialised cabinet with fancy DSP, compression, and limiting built in. As for other passive cabinets... Of course not everyone wants a 'flattish' cab. If Alex starts doing powered cabinets or PA equipment, I think there's some incredible possibilities there.

Posted my own review. [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/221992-barefaced-bf-big-baby-2-review-bergantino-ip112er-and-acme-b1-content-also/"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/221992-barefaced-bf-big-baby-2-review-bergantino-ip112er-and-acme-b1-content-also/[/url]