AndyTravis

It was the studio model done in about 2005. they were ok, but didn’t have the through neck (set) and just a flat body, no raised centre. epiphone did a p/j “reverse” 5 string, but was all intents and purposes a fender style bass in the rough shape of a thunderbird

Listened to the album this morning again. Undecided

I quite like the “penny” finish...

And I sold mine for £250 🤨

Yeah they were graphite reinforced...the one I mentioned above I think wore a status MM Graphite neck. edit - it was sold on basschat in 2008/2009

Tony Kanal needs to sell it to me.

Want this too...

@visog have you met @karlfer 🤔

Well like I say, the last grooves had graphite necks. and he’d charge you £1500+ to make one again 😉

I would like a 4 again - one of the later ones. i keep an eye out, but wouldn’t want to pay more than £350

Oh god knows, about £350, it was a black 5 string

hmm... think I’ll be getting white pearl made - but damn, this looks nice.

I hate honey 🤔

I’d say between £300-£400 is good money for one of these, heading towards £500 is into USA MM Sub 5 territory and maybe even tatty 2eq money (but not 5 string MM). I sold mine as it sounded “nearly” stingray ish, but not quite and that did my head in a bit as it was sort of neither jazz nor stingray.

They crop up used from time to time, I had a black one for a year or so and enjoyed it. there are two versions, the early ones had a more “droopy” headstock which always looked odd to me, the later ones have a straighter one which allows better string travel. the last ones made had a graphite neck (think there may only actually be one with a natural finish...) @karlfer is selling a really nice retro-J which I think was the replacement for the groove as it still has the more traditional body shape.

“Loads turned up with lacquer cracks in the neck join...”

A 12/4 violin?

I worked in a shop for a number of years... One summer (2003) I worked in the Stockport branch...there was a guy I worked with who was decent enough, just no social skills. i said we should re-display some guitars as we were quiet and at least if people came in, the display would look ace and entice the few customers that we had that week to buy. He agreed and set about disagreeing with everything I suggested, so I walked off and left him to it. upon my return from lunch or a fag break, this lad had set up an awful display and up high were some USA G&L basses, as He gloated about the majestic display he’d conjured up there was a loud “ping” and down came an L-1000 or 1500 into a lower hung set of ASAT and Commanche/s-500/legacy guitars...BOOOM CLANG CLUNK KERRANG!!! THUMP. About 10 guitars on the floor, and the sorriest looking G&L bass ever. it’d landed on a Line 6 Flextone and folded the top Chassis of the amp. couldnt believe it. Anyhow, we got a round bollocking - I’d only been there two months and somehow some of the blame was imparted onto me. About 4/5 years later, I warned of this tale to a cocksure colleague (who ended up as store manager) who proceeded to destroy a wall of Manuel Rodriguez classical guitars in much the same manner...(he actually overloaded the run of slatwall mdf shop fitting stuff...and the front layer of the wall effectively peeled off). bloody waste of nice instruments.