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[quote name='goblin' timestamp='1467993424' post='3087941'] And there lies the problem, the subs would have not been crossing over and putting out the correct frequency. No crossover, no thumb... you might get a bang though when you blow the amp in the sub. [/quote] And therin did lie the problem when we duly blew both subs in quick succession and couldn't understand why to be follwed by a relatively expensive repair. I do now recall it was indeed jack out from the passive tops to xlr in for the subs ( i had the leads made for that very use) so now i get why the subs sounded so so much better with a direct line out from the desk a couple of nights ago! Im sending this thread to our drummer and guitarist, thanks again guys.

[quote name='JTUK' timestamp='1467982893' post='3087803'] No, that can't be right... unless the signal out of the passive tops is a line signal.....?? [/quote] I think we asumed that the xlr out from the passive tops into the active subs "carried on" the signal as if you were daisy chaining one passive top to another? Totaly ignorant I know!!!

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' timestamp='1467942559' post='3087502'] There's no reason for active subs to sound any better with passive versus active tops. Whatever difference heard indicates that you didn't set the system up correctly when using the passive tops. [/quote] Im trying to recall how we used to do it Bill, as I remember we used to speakon out of the power amp to the the passive tops and then xlr daisy chain to the active subs rather than a dedicated line to each (now) active speaker from the mixing desk, would that make any difference?

[quote name='goblin' timestamp='1467923642' post='3087422'] I can't think of any logical reason. I run HK Actor subs with passive EV tops, and I have no issue at all. I do run an EV system controller between the desk and the power amp for the tops, and the sub outputs are from the back of the controller - I imagine this has some influence on the crossing over. How were they wired? Do you have a sub output on the desk which is dedicated to the subs? How were you powering the tops? [/quote] so last night when everything sounded huge, 2 XLR Direct sends out from the desk to the active tops. 1 aux send to the active sub, 2 and 3 aux send to the active monitors, so all the speakers self powered

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it is possible to run an 8 Ohm cab off a 4 Ohm ampeg all tube head (i did for a short while while awaiting my HLF 4 Ohm cab) without any problems but it is not recommended according to forums I looked into (something to do with shortning tube life? But I could be wrong). Likewise switching on a tube head without it being connected to a cab is a big no-no and waiting 20 minutes for the tubes to warm up before coming out of stand-by, and leaving the tubes to cool down after a gig before moving the head! So many new rules to learn!

If this is in the wrong forum, mods please move. So, a weird thing happened last night. We have 2 active peavey subs which I have been distinctly underwhelmed with in the past. We used to use them with passive tops, either peavey or EV tops, and they sounded weak and hardly any thump. Anyway last night we used them in a small theatre (250) with our new active RCF tops all from a peavey desk. My God, they sounded huge, really chest thumping, even the bass amp which was a DI'd 15W Gear for Music joke sounded huge! So my question is this, do you need to use active subs with active tops to get the most from them? And if so, why? The difference was incredible to me

The Ampeg is very Dark sounding, the tweeter pretty much useless, saying that my guitarist plays his 100W marshall head through an Orange 410 and Im not overly keen on that. The Ampeg suits rock very well isn't too heavy and looks the biz so that would be my choice, saying that, if you're buying new, the barefaced option would get my vote. The ultimate of course would be the Ampeg 610 or 810 !!!

used to be a big fanboy of Tracktion, then found Reaper, so another vote there also.

played to approx 6 people at a very weird place owners were pie eyed and the chap had a white lizard on his head (really) barman had no teeth good payer though, all in all very strange http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2570292/Yes-Im-just-like-Basil-Fawlty-Barrister-turned-hotelier-admits-bit-raucous-TripAdvisor-review-claims-ruined-Valentines-dinner-drunken-foul-mouthed-rant.html

Its not a shop, its his house in Teignmouth! Give Mark a call and Im sure he'll be delighted to give you the address, a cup of tea will be on order, awesome stuff available!!!

welcome....

gotta love our cousins over the pond!

Over-Nite Sensation and Apostrophe (1973/74) are where I would start

[quote name='ras52' timestamp='1465833902' post='3071406'] Liberally? (One for our older readers...) [/quote]

Don't knock the fact that you didn't trgger the bloody thing, hate em with a passion! We always take the power from the room next door with a great long extention cable!

More Maiden & RATM to my mind, great stuff from so young.

an asshole but wow... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH7NqJrDt0A

not working for me

Dave Hall, thats just another recommendation by the way.. http://www.davehallamps.co.uk/

Following on from the "Playing for Nowt" Thread, I mentioned that even though I got paid for last nights gig, I was pretty much bored stupid. This is solely down to the fact that the set has to my mind got stale and we have been banging out the same 30/40 numbers for some time now. We have agreed that we will no longer have rehersals every week unless we concentrate only on new material (covers) and as we are gigging every week for the next 2 months, its not worth going over the same stuff already played 100's of times. Anyway, my question was how often do you introduce new material into the set, every week? Every month? Do you have a completely new set every year or do you have a few perennial favourites that you can't drop? (For us thats the usual Dad Rock stuff - Hendrix, Zepp, Cream - Yawn...)