JellyKnees

The busker in the Lime Street station underpass who makes my journey into work in the morning that bit more depressing...

[quote name='amnesia' timestamp='1362062870' post='1995196'] I flatly refused to play Electric 6's Gaybar a few months ago. To be honest, if it had been pushed I think I would have walked. [/quote] You should have done it and worn the pants and hat combo (Probably NSFW!!!) [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewrHj_RRk0Y[/media]

[quote name='bobbass4k' timestamp='1361849983' post='1991933'] There is a place for growling and screaming [/quote] Well maybe if... a) You are genuinely angry and have something that you believe is important to say (e.g Crass, RATM etc) You are a teenager and you just hate everyone and everything because your body chemistry has gone a bit awry. c) You are simply deranged. otherwise, I just don't get it myself. I'd rather go to the zoo where there is growling and screaming a plenty.

[quote name='TheGreek' timestamp='1361567923' post='1987850'] Cost of a pedigree dog at the moment is anything from £500 to £1500 depending on the breed [/quote] Surely a good reason to get a good old heinz 57 from a dog rescue centre? Especially given that so many pedigree dogs now seem to have health problems caused by over breeding.. Fish are quite like basses though... the very word 'bass' itself, and the fact that you can slap both of them... [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhJQp-q1Y1s[/media]

[quote name='steve-soar' timestamp='1361313522' post='1984570'] Danger Danger. [/quote] Is that a band or a warning about the direction this thread is taking? I like a lot of Zep stuff, I just don't see any merit in them touring, and from what I read about it today, it sounded like plant was just winding the journo up anyway...

Saw Plant at Womad last year - I though he was pretty good, although some of the 'world music elitist' crowd were a bit sniffy 'bout him. Unless Zep are going to do some new material, I don't really see the point tbh.

[quote name='xilddx' timestamp='1361283614' post='1983845'] Something I'm getting from this thread is that not a lot of us are making creative use of space. It's like any space that's there is a decision to take away notes. Most of the time I tend to approach writing lines as adding notes to space, rather than adding space to notes. If that makes sense. Am I in the minority? [/quote] For me, it all depend on the tune and what the starting point is. The example I posted developed from the main bass line - it is pretty driving and busy, although I still have to reign it in sometimes as it's easy to over egg, especially live! There are other songs, especially the ones that Jo wrote on the piano where I have deliberately aimed for a more minimal approach, and I hope I have achieved that. Space is just as important as what you choose to fill it with... There is always a tendancy on these kind of things to post something 'flashy' I guess...maybe that's why you are getting this impression?

[quote name='steve-soar' timestamp='1361283573' post='1983843'] What a great groove. Lovely sound from the KGB too. Is that Jo, ex Redo? [/quote] Hi Steve, cheers mate. It's Josephine, she's from Wallasey... she was in a band years ago, not sure what they were called though...never heard of Redo tbh..we found each other through the bandmix site.

God no, neither thanks very much. Bad 80s hair metal, both bloody awful. Like choosing between cancer and AIDS.

mmm ok, perhaps this one will work... [url="https://soundcloud.com/handsetbongo/magic-fingertips"]https://soundcloud.com/handsetbongo/magic-fingertips[/url] I seem to have multiple soundcloud accounts going on...very confusing

[quote name='owen' timestamp='1360971657' post='1979406'] Some nice stuff on here. I do not hugely enjoy listening to myself because I annoy myself when I hear my personal cliches etc but sometimes it comes together [url="https://soundcloud.com/owen-lloyd-evans/12-nos-da-mam"]https://soundcloud.c...s/12-nos-da-mam[/url] The first was recorded in a local studio where my DB sounds better than anywhere due to the lovely ATC monster monitors they have and the fine Neumann they put on the bass. One day I will own a pair of ATCs for my house. What was gratifying was that I managed to control my urge to play more than I needed to and just rumbled along at the bottom. It is self-control which is sadly lacking in much of what I do What usually happens is that I get comfortable playing what I had intended and look for ways to spice it up. Sadly I do not have the Pino "taste gene" so inveriably have to apologise 30 seconds into playback, turn on my heel and go in to do it again [url="https://soundcloud.com/owen-lloyd-evans/sunshine"]https://soundcloud.c...-evans/sunshine[/url] This was done at home and the structure of the bass line ebbs and flows nicely. Nothing is more important than structure of a line for me, if I had the chops to play fast weaving complex chromaticisms around a vocal I would use them at all times obv, but if the line did not breath with the song I would just get angry with myself. This was one of those lines which you chuck down, feel that it is going well but get more and more nervous as the song progresses incase you mess up. You get to the end with the feeling of "phew, I might actually get away with that!" [/quote] Hey Owen, I really enjoyed both of these... really nicely playing, great dynamics and subtlety of touch, the bass really breathes. Love the material too, gorgeous sound, really well recorded and mixed. All round excellent stuff dude.

My favourite bassline is generally the latest one I've written, but this is one of my favourites from my current band. [url="https://soundcloud.com/#neil-2-1/magic-fingertips"]https://soundcloud.c...agic-fingertips[/url] It was originally an intrumental piece that I wrote and recorded using Cubase VST back in 2005 and it's one of the very first things of mine that Jo cunningly grafted some vocals onto when we started working together a couple of year later. It started with the main bass riff and developed from there really...chords definitely came later with this one. Oh, and there are a few bass overdubs on it here and there (sometimes one bass just isn't enough!) It was played on my KGB headless and DI'd straight in. I think there's some compressor and a touch of reverb on it, but it's pretty clean otherwise. I just like the driving feel of it I guess, and the fact that it gives me some scope to throw some accents and whatnot in when I play it live. It's definitely never the same twice (and can be a bit hit or miss), but it's always fun to play. I'll try and have a listen to some of the other stuff folks have posted on here later...

[quote name='SteveK' timestamp='1361041957' post='1980335'] This may come as a surprise, but it's perfectly possible to 'move on' and still appreciate The Beatles, and what they did. [/quote] What, by re-recording one of their albums? How is that moving on? [quote name='SteveK' timestamp='1361041957' post='1980335'] This was a problem in the other Beatles thread - statements seemingly plucked from the air. Has anybody actually said 'there has been little progress since them'? [/quote] Well I was responding to this statement by flyfisher 'Fair point about musical nostalgia hindering people moving on, but there has to be a good reason for it. Until something better comes along people will stick with what they like.' But, like whatever...

[quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1361022366' post='1979903'] Fair point about musical nostalgia hindering people moving on, but there has to be a good reason for it. Until something better comes along people will stick with what they like. The very fact that there's still all this fuss about The Beatles after 50 years is an indication that they got some things right. Perhaps there's a lot of resentment against them because others have tried and failed to duplicate their success? [/quote] They undoubtedly did get a lot of things right, but musically a lot of their stuff sounded pretty quaint even back in the 80s. They were of their time, they wrote some great songs, but I find the idea that there has been little progress since them bizarre. I don't resent them, I'm just bored of people banging on about them. Perhaps it's because I work in Liverpool where the whole Beatles memorabilia machine is inescapable. Matthew street was much better when Probe records was in the middle of it, and there was none of the current tourist tat...

[quote name='Monckyman' timestamp='1361011019' post='1979663'] Yes, of course I do. Hard not to. I did at one time have the first Beatles LP down note perfect on the bass and vocals at the age of 15, but that was after Buddy Holly, Eddy Cochran, Johnny Burnette etc. I don't own a single bit of Beatles product and never have, though I know most of their output. I'm just sick of their all reaching never ending iconic status. It's a bit boring now to bang on about 50year old tunes as if they are genius and it saddens me that people don't think we have progressed much from that point. Also, other artists covering Beatles songs never sounds anything other than wrong to me, because their tone and sound was such a massive part of why their stuff worked. So Beverly knight etc all sound a bit lame. You may as well have had Bruce Forsyth introducing them all and tinsel drapes etc. Beatles, great, tunes, Northern English perspective at a time of great cultural change etc,all of that, but very old news now. [/quote] +2 What a pointless exercise. Back in early 80's Birkenhead when I was a teenage fledgling bass player, no one I knew listened to the Beatles. They were seen as old hat and there seemed to be a real desire amongst local bands to escape the legacy of the whole Merseybeat thing. They have had undoubtedly had a huge influence, possibly more so in recent years than back then, but yeah totally agree, the whole musical nostalgia thing is hugely depressing. Move on now please.

[quote name='Atalante' timestamp='1360933094' post='1978506'] A good musician is not limited in any way. [/quote] By that definition, the only 'good' musicians are virtuoso musicians. Is a bassist who cannot play slap style therefore not capable of being deemed a good bassist? Good is obviously highly subjective, but to me it's all about serving the song, playing with and appropriate groove and feel, leaving space where necessary, having a good tone, and hopefully doing something that surprises me in some way. 30 seconds of flash ain't going to do it, no matter how technically impressive. If a player has a more unusual style it might take a good few songs to get into what they are doing and decide whether I like their playing or not, or I might simply not like the style of music (e.g. thrash metal), in which case I'm never going to like it, but generally after a song or two I can tell if i like someone's playing.

Much as I would like to see this thread die, I'll post this as it seems rather pertinent. This is the kind of commercial Beatles related tat that drives me nuts. Liverpool was much better without it as far as I'm concerned. [url="http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news//tm_headline=hard-day-s-night-hotel-fire-sees-hotel-evacuated-gallery%26method=full%26objectid=32810649%26siteid=100252-name_page.html"]http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news//tm_headline=hard-day-s-night-hotel-fire-sees-hotel-evacuated-gallery%26method=full%26objectid=32810649%26siteid=100252-name_page.html[/url]

[quote name='GreeneKing' timestamp='1360788594' post='1976627'] Alan's ties were clearly laid out in the thread. 'Cheeky humour as is his want'? I didn't see the humour there at all. I usually have a good sense of such subtleties too. I don't personally associate Bilbo with 'cheeky humour' and neither evidently, at the time did Alan despite what agonising might have followed. I think you are being defensive perhaps? I'm a robust bloke but I do see an easy path of firing off clever anecdotes without taking full responsibility. If we were all sat around a room with all the extra clues available to us than it would perhaps be different. Peter [/quote] Sorry, but no one the right not to be offended by someone elses opinions. You might listen to my band for example and say that we're rubbish. So what? I might be disappointed but I'm not going to take offense at it. I've just re-read Bilbo's comment, and while I wouldn't have necessarily phrased it in the same way, I agree with the broad sentiment of what he said. Can't see anything to take offense at to be honest. And niceguyhomer has apologied, so it's clear that he acknowledged that he over-reacted. End of story.

[quote name='Dave Vader' timestamp='1360766915' post='1976131'] You're all a massive bag of tw@ts btw. [/quote] A massive bag? Surely it's a flange of tw*ts?

I've been on a few other forums in the past and I would say that people on basschat are generally fairly respectful of one another. We are all, and I do mean ALL, capable of talking complete crap sometimes, we all have bad days where we may say the wrong thing that could potentially give offence to some sensitive soul, but such is the cut and thrust of human interaction. God forbid that it was otherwise. I see very little on here that would seem to be worth getting too upset about...it's all good healthy banter provided you approach it with the correct mindset. And if you are someone who is easly upset, then perhaps you should avoid internet forums all together and just have a nice cup of tea instead?

A throb, surely?

Beefcake pantyhose... [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgSPaXgAdzE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgSPaXgAdzE[/url]

Damn, I should have copyrighted it!

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Ours is an anagram of mine and the singer's surnames... we were very nearly called Dean's Hot Bong! It's a fun way to come up with a name.... [url="http://wordsmith.org/anagram/advanced.html"]http://wordsmith.org/anagram/advanced.html[/url]