JellyKnees

No worries man, thought it was worth mentioning with you being fairly local. I'm sure the NGs are fine basses.

I was alluding to the Scouser 'witticism' of refering to Wirral as 'the dark side'... I prefer the oblong of dreams myself. Now that Nigel's properly witty. OMD I'd rather forget about.

Hey Brian, if you are interested in Dingwalls I have a Canadian made abz 5 for sale on here... https://www.basschat.co.uk/topic/460459-dingwall-abz-5/

Cheers Brian, we've always been a bit overshadowed by Liverpool, but there has always been a pretty decent scene over here not to mention the odd success or two down the years... Neil

Hi Brian, a welcome from the 'other side' of the river...

After reading this thread, I had my 3D copy out and cranked up on the turntable a couple of days ago. Scratched to flip, but till one of my favourite albums ever. I also had a play along to the title track with my Dingwall ABZ though my recently acquired Bass Rig Super Vintage, which sounds the absolute dogs btw - I may have to reconsider my decision to move the Dingwall on...

Similarly, it was the first album of theirs I bought when it came out, I was 13 and already had the other 3 second hand, so perhaps that's partly why it has particular resonance for me. Nostalgia is not to be underestimated...

It's got to be good thing I reckon. Better they hear good music that way than not at all. When my daughter had her 18th birthday party a few years ago I was amazed at the amount of older music that they were playing on Spotify. For all their faults, social media and streaming services do potentially open up a whole world of music to their listeners, which hopefully leads at least some of them to delve further.

Fair enough, I realise it's probably a minority opinion, although I don't hear anything on it that I would remotely call early 80s generic pop. It's certainly more polished and less aggressive than the first 3 albums, but I think you can definitely hear the progression from Black and White to this. To me it's always been the album that sits on the cusp their early and later work, some of which was definitely poppier. Perhaps you had to be there...

Yeah, it all went to merde after La Folie sadly, which is apparently when Jet started using drum machines in the studio according to Hugh's book. I was very lucky to see them twice in Liverpool in the early 80s with Hugh. The Raven is their magnum opus IMO.

Thanks, it's actually In 17/16, which took me a while to figure out as I just came up with the bass line first. I'm in Bebington, where are you?

It's almost as if vinyl is an inferior medium.

You were upfront about it, he took it badly which is entirely his problem. Whenever I've been in a similar position, I've always tried to be fair and honest with people. It's never easy, but in general most musicians take it on the chin and move on. I've only been sacked from a band once. The drummer (a college educated jazz guy with ideas frankly way above his level of success/ability IMHO) who had started the band told myself and the singer/keys player that he had another project he wanted to work on and was folding the band. I found out a couple of days later that him and the guitarist were advertising for replacements on joinmyband. The singer (who was much younger than me, and was writing a lot of the material) was pretty upset about it and she challenged him in an online chat group we had set up. It was a joy to watch him squirm and try and weasel his way out of it. If he'd just been honest and told us why he wanted us out I'd have respected him and gracefully accepted it, even if I didn't agree with him.

Talk about hitting the brown note!

He's dreadful, not to mention thoroughly unpleasant. But I'm from Merseyside and not much of a Beatles fan, so what the flip do I know?

It's a load of camp nonsense and I don't imagine anyone actually takes it seriously.... do they? I couldn't sit through the whole thing, but it use to be quite funny listening to Sir Terry rip the fosters out of it.

My latest solo effort... https://jellyknees.bandcamp.com/track/y-timbre

Ha, you guessed right.. 😁

Well I liked 2 of those bands so I'll take that as a compliment!