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just to add, 500W i know there is head room etc which is always great but still that 500W is a bit more than i need, the Mag300 into one cab is about 180 so the ABM would be about 300 is? if they still made the ABM300 i'd probably have one by now as all my basses have to out puts, if i had two ABM rigs that would be 1000W! (though when i could afford that i'd probably need the 1000W haha )

[quote name='phatbass787' post='903384' date='Jul 23 2010, 04:57 PM']I think some of these comments at the end of the day are a bit harsh on Ashdown, at the end of the day you have a budget rig, Ashdown themselves admit the MAG range is an affordable option for beginners/semi pro's on a budget etc, if you want a better tone and more flexibilty as youve outgrown the MAG stuff then get your money out and look at the top end UK made Ashdown gear like the ABM range, the new valve gear and the 550 Spyder etc which are by all accounts killer amps, its like buying a BMW 1 series and expecting an M5 and then moaning its not what you hoped, you get what you pay for at the end of the day, different products for different uses and budgets, and from the amount of Ashdown used by huge bands every night of the week its a bit crazy to say Ashdown doesnt make pro worthy gear...[/quote] It is slighly true, and i hold my hands up to that I played through The classic/ Klystron Stuff bloody hell that was awe inspiring i guess i worded my self poorly, i don't think the Ashdown sound is for me is what i was trying to and should have made more clear in what i said. and are very right, The Ashdown Pro stuff is a good price too, like teh Klystron i love. Problem is thats past my whole rig budget i'd say haha, i'll definate still keep ashdown in mind when i move up in the world, in age and get a (decent paying) job all together Like my local has alot of ABM stuff i'm trying out tomorrow but everything there has a hefty price tag

[quote name='ThomBassmonkey' post='902248' date='Jul 22 2010, 07:32 PM'][url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=92597"]COUGH[/url] You won't find better than a GK artist right for that kind of sound imo.[/quote] Great thread there haha, that was exactly what i was thinking, GK (10/10 for sneekyness btw!) shame its a little more than i have to spend, well that all depends on the sale of my last rig mmmm, And yes i am quite a Duff Mckagen fan

[quote name='JMT3781' post='901294' date='Jul 21 2010, 09:00 PM']if you want "sparkle" you need something with better tweeters in... if thats the kinda sparkle you mean... i dunno. i'm used to glassy markbass cabs If you want growl, try something mid heavy, and maybe with some 12" speakers in[/quote] Just what i meant like a nice top end which isn't over pronounced but the tweeters in my cab do sound just thin air and no tone... if you get what i mean? though i'm no expert [quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='901380' date='Jul 21 2010, 10:15 PM']I had an early made in england ABM Ashdown rig and they are just the same(cost me alot in 2001 from new too!),I describe them as sounding as if the cab is still in the cardboard box! I knew no better at the time and some people love em. Go and see Mark at bass direct, He hooked me up with the Genz-Benz with a Neo 2x12T and it sounds just up your street too.I like a 15 and cant get on with tens even 8 of them! But 2x12's are spot on because you get the genuine trouser flap of the 15 with some of the tightness and hi-fi of 10's. And what the 12's miss the adjustable crossover and tweeter gets anyway.Choice of heads to suit but the 600w is plenty loud enough for everywhere I have played so far and rarely gets over halfway.The 900w must be an animal! Bass direct have all sorts of stuff to try out and I would be surprised if you had any love for the Ashdown after a morning spent playing there! [/quote] haha i know 100% what you mean about the ashdown, i'm probably going to sell it to some young teen who is about to start gigging just how i got it (mind you that was in the not so long ago past!) Thanks for the help!

Also just to say Hark rock and metal is what i play on bass and i like cutting thumpy punch but also quite sharp very Hi-fi is what i like, which i was thinking maybe sell the 410 Mag and swap it for a new 810 mag cab? Oh and i've been asked this a few times, I put line spaces in as i find it makes long things like this (sorry!) easier to type and read

Hey guys! My current Rig is An Ashdown MAG 300 (orginal line) and later edition MAG 410 cab, After a day of running different things through it and messing with afew other amps I don't know how to describe it, it gives a nice trouser flapping low end i like but no sparkle no real feeling of over whelming awesomeness I don't know if its the fact its solid state or the fact its Ashdown (i would HIGHLY doubt that) i'm just not sure but i know i can't quite get the sound i want/need out of this set up I played the head through a Marshall VBA 810 and it was thrice as good as i've known it but still not there I like Rumble, Sizzle, Sparkle and GROWL most of all! i ten to play with some overdrive and the like two any reccomendations on what to try? I think all i need is to swap the head maybe for an ABM or try a Gallien Kruger rig for a while Money is an Issue, though i'd likely sell this if i was going to replace it Food for thought? Thanks Adam

Thanks for the information guys! Maybe when i have a bit more money eh? and i think i know what i want i guess i'll start from a standard P-bass and do a bit to it and in the end get a brand new and improved Pro done one

Hey All! Not been on since late May! I've been in New orleans on a jazz tour with my trombone and then did four shows with a mates rock band on bass here in Scotland when i got back on the week end so its all good! My question is who has had custom builds, is it "worth it" and what was involved? As in how much do you need to know and information to give to a luthier, and is it "worth it" i mean costs (how much was yours?) compared to say having a P or J like bass but it costs you £3000 whn a near enough what you wanted could be a third that If its for completely custom shapes and things then its obviously worth it! I ask as after reveiwing all my stuff and alot more playing now its summer i've decided The Yammie Attitude is very close yes indeedy but not quite perfect so i will be posting several threads around here gathering information to my portfolio if you will of my potential custom job or alternatively i could just Start from a P-bass but i'll make calls along the way as i would almost certainly get a custom neck Thanks for listening! Hope your having a great Summer Adam

[quote name='lowdown' post='846791' date='May 24 2010, 07:36 PM']Every one in an Orchestra is musically literate, apart from................ Viola players. Garry[/quote] Haha, and wheres that one come from then?

I can read all the bass clef music and all bass clefs fine, 100% i can sight read it and all but treble and alto and even some tenor stuff confuses me, but i can handle it alright, but for bass i don't think its 100% necessary only learn it if you want to, or feel you should, I am musically literate as i play trombone/bass trombone in an orchestra though!

[quote name='Bassnut62' post='844059' date='May 21 2010, 12:51 PM']i got rid of my Boss SYB3 ASAP too - horrible piece of junk; although the wah wasn't bad and could mix with dry signal. EHX MBS can be picked up for £100 second hand; but make sure it's an old steel 24v one. I've heard the new small 9v ones are not nearly as good. It might mean a bit of saving for the MBS; but it'll be really worth the wait and you'll be synth-sorted for as long as you need to be.[/quote] I love my SYB-5 and my SYB-3, But its not the same as other synths its basically a "make my bass into a glitchy keyboard" pedal, which i really dig:)

[quote name='umph' post='843997' date='May 21 2010, 12:01 PM']yeah been a long time since i listened to dream theatre but i thought he rocked the whole lol check my trebs lead tone like yngwie etc[/quote] Malmsteen is a world of his own (where he is god/jesus/king) Listen to just a clip of him on the album Octavarium or the newest stuff and i like the plan of just rocking out WOOP after some testing, and gear borrowing, i think i all i needed i some valve amp goodness o_o

[quote name='Growl' post='840313' date='May 17 2010, 10:31 PM']This is quite "Growly": [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SieIHSH53_M"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SieIHSH53_M[/url][/quote] I thought Matt Freeman uses a P-bass? The only jazz i've seem him with, is a Geddy Lee

[quote name='Faithless' post='838005' date='May 15 2010, 11:12 AM']Of course, huge factor in your sounding, is how you play, how's your technique, etc.. But that's purely matter of individual and group practice. Maybe, what would help for you, is to set your goals - how do you want to sound, and then work on it, day after day. One of my main goals (and I have set them not for a week, or month, but for years) came from listening to saxophonists - I'm amazed how music can sound so fliud, so '[i]legato[/i]' through that instrument. And I think, with lots and lots of shed (thanks, J. Gwizdala ), it can be done on bass. Think about what you want from it, then do it.[/quote] ah yes, very very true and wise words! I thought similar to this after orchestra rehearsals today! I may take me a 10 years but i will get there! Thanks guys:)

[quote name='BigRedX' post='837928' date='May 15 2010, 09:33 AM']I think part of the problem is the bright doesn't really equal big - especially on bass. As others have said you need to be tight with the drummer and then tone wise tailor your sound to fill the frequencies that the other instruments don't. Start by re-eq'ing to bring out the frequencies below the guitar and vocals, and then look at fattening up with valve compression/distortion - you'll need more in a band context then you think from playing on your own. If you're serious about the bright then you'll need to seriously look at multi-course basses (8 or 12 string) and/or bi-amping.[/quote] Thanks! I'm borrowing an octave up for practise to see how that works today

[quote name='LukeFRC' post='837741' date='May 14 2010, 11:26 PM']What kinda bass do you play? I currently have two basses. The warwick streamer is amazing but I doubt it is ever going to nail a 'huge' sound, the notes have a lot of attack and the tone, while being amazing cuts through but doesn't fill the space. My JV Pbass however does, it has the middy P bass thump, a load of low end, the brightness from the maple neck and most importantly a massive full tone (lots of harmonics) a bit like a really big piano. So find a really nice P bass.[/quote] I'm currently playing an Yamaha Attitude, which is like A P-bass after a work out! and i get fat lows which i can change tone wise pretty radically with the neck pickup and the P-pickup gets nice punchy tone, Billy Sheehan can get a Huge tone, live its practically punched me in he face! I'm using a different set up, and i'm not trying to copy his tone, but i know it is do able, Maybe it is to do with the tone i have? Which is based around being bright,

[quote name='Faithless' post='837736' date='May 14 2010, 11:16 PM']Forget amps, effects, basses and all other stuff. What will make you, and, more important, your band sound full and huge, is learning how to work with others. It's not only you, that make you sound full and huge. It's also other members of the band. Most important, the drummer. The [i]hugeness [/i]comes from [i]tightness[/i]. You wouldn't believe, how a good drummer enhances bassist. And vice versa. once again, forget about gear, concentrate on process.[/quote] yup absolutely, i think i will listen to bassists who specialise in such things, Sheehan, Myung, Harris, Squier as i said i will report back tomorrow

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='837731' date='May 14 2010, 11:13 PM']Not sure that is so useful for filling out for a missing guitarist, more for carving a space under an already dense mix. Plus 25hz is mostly speaker upset and not much sound. Edit: Also, get your own diads in, play busier lines, and add extra notes to any note you play a bunch of times, there's usually an octave of 5th you can reach.[/quote] Hmmmm good plan, i will report back after band practise tomorrow, a small issue is, i have always played Diads and odd chords here and there, and fairly busy lines, but that was before, with more space i'm sure i can modify and change! Thanks so much guys!

alot of this sounds expensive haha! I will certainly explore all these options when i have money but first i need all my pennies to buy a new Trombone (boo for money not going to bass stuff)

[quote name='Mr. Foxen' post='837718' date='May 14 2010, 10:55 PM'][url="http://www.prosoundweb.com/article/in_search_of_the_power_alley/"]This[/url] Should be so bad from the separate pickups, as the bridge one isn't making the real low end. I had a split signal going to a pair of 8x10s either side of the drummer and it was really noticeable.[/quote] I'm not 100% sure i follow but i will re-read the page in depth tomorrow, thanks!