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That F112 looks great and sounds like a very capable unit. Is your VK cab gone then? I thought it was highly rated by you and others or has the weight issue reared it's head again?

Well I can tell you’re in no rush to fire up your stomp if you’re saying a few months. Probably getting to grips with all those other pc editors right 😀 Yeah I’ll get a stomp sooner or later as the band have now committed to full in ears (importantly the drummer has!) But you know me I’m one of those impulsive bassist’s who insist’s on using new gear pretty much asap!

Have you tried hx edit yet? It’s pretty easy too

That’s quite interesting! What stands out as making it better? Would you say it’s your familiarity with the zoom which makes it easier or do you find the zoom more intuitive? *I should say with the zoom I mean ToneLib

@Al Krow having tried both the zoom software and the HX edit do you find one preferable to the other?

Ahh its just when you said people prefer to be able to edit on the fly I misunderstood what you were meaning.

This might be useful...

@Al Krow it looks like you’ve mistook what @GisserD said. “Vastly underestimate” is very different to to suggesting a “vast army of bass players” which GisserD never actually said You enjoy semantics as much as anyone but you’re putting words into his mouth here. @Al Krow you made a suggestion earlier in this thread.... “You'd be surprised how many Stomp / Helix LT / Helix Full Fat owners haven't ventured into HX Edit. Why do you think there is a regular stream of Helix's in the FS?“ unless you know a bunch of people who haven’t used the edit software before selling their units this is kinda baseless. I know you might be speaking form personal experience but I’d argue anyone I know with a stomp/hx/hxfx have all used the HX Edit software. Plus it’s weong to suggest you can’t edit on the fly with a stomp. Again I’m not sure why you think you can’t edit HX stomp on the fly or why line 6 would make a device which needed a pc to edit? The Stomp shares the exact same interface as the big HX just has a smaller screen and fewer knobs. If you haven’t yet mastered how to edit the stomp on the fly it’s about a 10 minute learning curve, possibly quicker with the manual on hand for reference easy and it certainly doesn’t require the software editor it’s just that using the software editor makes things much easier to read on a bigger screen and all a bit more immediate. I know you’re a huge fan of the Zoom editor you should give the line 6 a try. You might like it.

It’s pretty straight forward. If your unlikely to use the Native software then it’s not really of any value to you. If it’s something you can integrate into your normal workflow/music making/home rehearsal/practice then it might be worth the cost. I don’t see how it gets much more complicated. Personally I do all my music rehearsal/practice at home via laptop/headphones and as I noodle on guitar and some keys too this would be quite a tempting deal. I can see how it might not appeal to someone with an already heaving pedal hoard and a couple of existing multi fx units.

To have all the helix functionality in a daw for the price of one zoom pedal is a total no brainer!

Yeah having a full helix for my DAW would be cool!

@dannyboy I don't think @Al Krow means "studio" in the traditional sense and maybe more of a room where he plays his gear as opposed to doing a lot of on the computer recording/editing etc. @Al KrowIf there is a code going free for a cheap version of the Helix Native software I'll happily pay the £79 quid if you're not gonna use it!

Just putting the feelers out Why the change of heart on the stomp?

@Al Krow Can I have dibs on the Stomp when you get the Mooer

See demos of this are now up on you tube. Andertons have one up. Sounds decent in a cursory osten via my phone.

Dunlops are inexpensive and might work for you. Things like how sweaty/greasy your hands get all impact on string life/ zing

Basswitch IQ DI pedal with a compressor in the always on loop and drive in the switchable ‘mix loop’ which has a clean blend function. It’s a veritable ‘brain’ on a pedal board. They do cost a bit but if you’re needing some eq options, wanna have a few pedals hooked up and use two instruments it is a really solid option. Very versatile and also great if your amp does mid gig!

Yeah and I think we’re in agreement that engaging the AGS changes the function of the pedal from a typical Aguilar OBP-3 preamp into something quite different and musical! It’s a great pedal and makes for a versatile ‘drive’ pedal for a range of classic bass tones. Thats my detail over. As you were!

Possibly but the interactivity of the TH pedal, how the treble becomes more of a presence control, AGS mode engaged introduces the drive circuit etc. Similar controls but quite different sounds. I’ve seen TJ Spicer’s BBNE review and the sounds he gets are not the same as with the TH AGS engaged. Think more amp like than standard 3 or 4 band active eq a la a BDDI.