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Any other info on these ‘X’ pedals? And does this mean the DG comp could become a collectible? I’d best get on eBay!

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Great strings - my go to 5er set... plus I very kindly had a dodgy A string replaced super quickly by those lovely D'addario folks in Newcastle.

You'd have to ask their tech

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Uh oh Dad woke up and he's fosters*d!

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On my choir gig we play Don’t Go Breaking My Heart which has been changed to the key of D. Being able to recreate that bass line and keep it sounding authentic, having the low d available for the verse and the riff etc. is a real advantage. We play more tunes in non original keys than original if that makes sense. We recently did a mash up of No More Tears/Raining Men which again was played in the non-original key. Being able to play the bass line on that one with the chorus off the low C# added the bottom end and supported the two guitars and fiddle (which is a five string too). Having the low B ring out for certain parts on that tune or doing ascending runs from the lower position all adds a wonderful depth over which the other the instruments add to - we’ll it does to my ear as the performer and it’s why I use the 5’er. Sometimes, for me, the less dramatic stuff like your punk or rock covers down the local doesn’t ‘warrant’ a 5’er. I make use of the range or a 5’er a lot on those choir gigs and it is You’ll see heaps of the Nashville guys are on 5 strings and have been for years and you can hear how they use the range of the bass to drive modulations in songs, add weight and power to ballads. As said previously it’s not just a 4 string with some extra notes (but you can choose to play it that way). I’m not claiming to be the best bassist or exponent of the lower depths of the instrument but a 5’er can add much to a song and it’s great if you’re playing at volume through a good cab! Pant shaking!

That swamp ash looks delightful!

i don’t feel I need the additional range of the 5er on the pub gig. Most of the originals we cover were recorded and played on a 4. It’s a bit lighter than the 5 for the three sets, the neck is thinner/smaller and it’s a really fun bass to play. It’s dirty hamburger to the fine steak comparison. In the choir the songs are often not in the original key so it’s often easier to transpose songs and keep the bass holding the low end rather than recreating riff and runs higher up the neck and in my view losing some of the low end.. We’ve chatted about this before and it’s not new information . I’m not sure if you own a Phillips and a flat head but they are two different tools with specific purposes. You can shoehorn a flat head to do the job of a Phillips but ultimately your gonna want the correct tool for the job. Most people own both ‘type’ of screw driver and multiples of each for the very reasons that they are specific to a task with perhaps a little bit of crossover and wiggle room but ultimately you want the right tool for the task.. Have you ever tried to remove a slotted 6x100mm with a Phillips 2x100mm?

I’m not! I’m actually saying I have two main gigs and the 5’er is the right bass for one while the 4 string is the right bass for the other. Choir gig needs the extended range, the pub gig doesn’t.

So a Phillips head and a flat head are the precision and jazz of the tool box? I stands by my explanation 😀

"Nicely put." My assertion that its about using the right tool for the job is pretty much a less eloquent version of this above response. It's why I felt it was a silly question. Pro's will have access to more than one bass and usually bring two, three or more to a session etc to nail whats needed for the part. An example from my own experience...I showed up to a recording with a 5 string active bass. Producer asked me to grab 'the old bass from room one'! It was a vintage Gibson EB something and it was the right bass for the track - it was a country tune and it needed that old mellow sound (plus it had flats). The active 5 would have worked but the producer knew what he wanted, he didn't want to be 'mixing' the bass any more than he needed to and knew that dusty old Gibson would work, it would mean less work for him and the bass was a pleasure to play. Everyone was happy and the active got traded for a '79 p bass shortly thereafter! I play a 4 string or 5 string depending on the gig - specifically I play the 5er on one and the 4 string on the other. I can do either gig with either bass but I don't. I choose to use the 5er on the 'choir gig' as I feel it's the right tool for the job and i use the Low B frequently. I use the 4 string on the other 'pub gig' becasue it's just as capable, fits the tunes we play, it's a fun bass to play and for me it's nice to switch over from time to time. I could use the low b (and done this gig for ages on the 5er) on that set but its fun to use a different bass. It's why I own two different basses. The 5er isn't hard to play, in fact it's a joy and its the nicest 5er Ive tried thus far, but the 4 string feels like its super skinny and easier to play I like to justify owning both basses by actively gigging them. But in a sense it's not really a 'tool for the job' point though is it - 'cos if you are proficient and comfortable playing 5 why would you ever need to play a 4 string? Surely a 5 can do everything that a 4 can?  Of course it good to generate debate and be devils advocate for fun but it's another silly point in my view because... The right tool for the job does apply as many of us on BC own more than one bass possible both 4's and 5ers and more! Your logic suggests why bother owning more than one bass if you have a decent 5er which will do the job? What if one owns both a 4 and 5 string but.. you need a period correct bass for a period vibe band? Or the 5 string is a luxury item you don't want nicked or damaged? What if ones 4 string records really well but their 5 string is more flexible out live? I saw a guy play a wedding with a 6 string Spector - don't think he touched the High C once and there wasn't too much harassment on the low B for that matter. He's probably an amazing musician with a degree in performance and I'm sure his original music would be staggering, technical and exploit his bass to its full potential. He may have wanted others to see this bass, he might have sold every other bass to own that single one. He could have done it on a four string but he took that bass and fair play to him. You pay your money you make your choice.

It just makes sense that you’d use the right tool for the job if you had the choice.

Ask a silly question... 😉

My understanding is that a bass pedal will be a whole new platform rather than a tweak to the Revival Drive.... but it's not at the design stages so likely a long way off.

More speaker cones will give you greater dispersion so a 4ohm 112 will not sound as good as two 8ohm 112 cabs at the same volume...I think.

@Holt-85 Any examples of what sound you wish to create? A band or track you're aiming for? A bit of grit from a fuzz pedal sounds like an you're starting from the wrong place but as ever sound example might better define what you're aiming for. My current board has a Bass soul food to give some mids boost and drive within a given song and allow's me to poke out in the mix with a bit of drive on the sound but I have a Darkglass AO for the heavier stuff although it is capable of less heavy tones. Some fuzz pedals might actually remove some mids and you can lose definition. Like any pedal both have their detractors and no one is right or wrong but they work for me in the context I need them to. Mixing a couple of lower gain pedal might be a more effective way of achieving the sound you're after - a cheap used Boss ODB with it clean blend and a 'touch of gain' combined with something a bit more aggressive like a Phat Phuk B was my old trick for getting an edgier tone to fill out some space. A Lomenzo drive from Ashdown might give you the mids push and overall aggression to hit the spot? Too many pedals and twice as many opinions right The guys on this forum are more knowledgeable then me and giving them a starting point in terms of a band/track will reap rewards!