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@PatrickJ Hi I was using my Stomp at gigs both in conjunction with my amp and direct with IEM. I also use it at home for a lot of my playing. I’ll flip between the stomp and my plug ins depending on what I want to sound like but generally the stomp gets used the most even if some of my bass amp plug ins sound equally as satisfying! The oto biscuit and subharmonic synths win on the plug in side for those type of effects for my preference but you’d expect them to be good. I digress... Circling back to the earlier chat about elitism... This whole elitist stuff appears to stem from the absurd notion of folk, me included and maybe patient zero, encouraging folk in this instance the OP to use their gear out at gigs with their band. I feel implicated in this partly from my preference to use stuff with a band even though most of my playing is at home via my rig or headphones where I can really dive down into the nuance of things - I love running basses into my graphic eq and looking at the sonic thumbprint of basses/pick ups, I like to swap out pick ups and tinker with the core sound of my instrument and I’ve even got a full professional route in my go to p bass where I’ve experimented with TBird pick ups, reverse p position and maybe even a MMStyle with split coils and series parallel wiring next... For me that’s pretty bedroom/geeky/nuance but it’ll definitely make the gig and be heard in context rather than a simply bedroom experiment. Many posts and threads have been started and when asked how did those sounds work on the gig there appears to be this sense that somehow it was a personal attack to ask how the gear was sounding? There’s been page upon page upon page written about effects and parameters and what’s your favourite this preset or that preset ad infinitum and yes as ‘young’ players or folks new to a certain effect that’s all fair and ‘useful’ to a point - for getting a starting sound to build on etc. With most effects we all, over time, acknowledge that the context and the way in which we use gear is all different especially from bedroom to gig - be it our attack, our sonic preferences to the music and types of rooms or bedrooms we’re playing them in. It’s no more elitist to ask how something sounds on a gig as it is to own a ‘lawyer’ rig and I speak as someone who owned a Dingwall Super P and Monique amp. Oh and they both sounded great on the 5 years worth of gigs I used them on if anyone is interested. The idea that this is a form of elitism humours me (but I don’t think the OP genuinely means this) as I feel that elitism can take many forms and to isolate the notion that players who want to use gear on a gig is elitist is again a bit absurd. Excited to hear if a pedal hits the spot live? Yes sure but elitist? Elitist is maybe not the correct way to describe ones desire to gig their gear or to hear others experience of gigging gear. It is not out of a sense of superiority that I gig gear nor is it my belief that by doing so I’m a better class of bassist. I would associate elitism with other things. Maybe the idea of pride or privilege to be associated with a particular group: the gigging bassist->subcategory who uses their gear->subcategory with a band - not that special really but being in a particular club/subset with like minded individuals where the 'price of admission' creates a bit of a barrier to entry then maybe... Elitism of ideas or opinion - where someone feels their views or opinion have a certain significance to the point of creating multiple user names/accounts to comment on and reinforce their opinions and to diffuse or derail those with opposite views. I stated a thread a while back on multiple accounts being held by a single user and the usual banter of split personality etc cropped up but no one thought to discuss the ‘elitist’ angle and that the notion of ones own self importance, to indulge in conversation with themselves, to control the narrative on multiple fronts, actively backing up ideas and opinions while dismissing others. To be fair now it’s straying off more into narcissism or maybe it’s a ‘social experiment’, a deeper treatise into something far more cerebral? I’d be happy to look at the subject a little deeper but as with most of these things the motivation is usually pretty basic. I’m no expert but with 20+ years working in mental health/forensic psychiatry I definitely have some opinions on it. TL;DR version This debate of gigging gear versus bedroom use is one I care little for and I’ll still encourage folks to use their gear live if they ever get the chance to. If that’s not your preference then that’s grand but don’t inflate it into something it’s not. Written word on an Internet forum will never captured the nuance of a civilised conversation and more often than not lead to unnecessary bickering.

Let me think about it! I’m walking the dog and then gonna have my tea but I certainly have thoughts on the subject. I alluded to a similar thing many months back but I guess I could rewrite that thread to apply in this context, stick a poll in there and see where it goes!

Oh O.K. I’d be first to advocate the use of gear in a band context and if that makes me elitist or an M.P. so be it. I have other opinions on elitism and I’d be happy to share them on an alternative thread.

Careful you’ll be getting branded an elitist 😂

He has #bb734a in the text so it’s likely it’s simply a paint job

Name and shame!

I think there comes a point where we’ve all realised that what sounds good in the bedroom/headphones can be woefully lacking in a live context. Same goes for being happy with gear as it is but then enhancing it with a little ‘spice’! Then there’s trying to cop specific tones to nail a certain song or part. 7Nation Army always sounds better with a decent fuzz where as Dancing In The Moonlight doesn’t suffer if you don’t have a soft phaser washing over it IMO. Elitist is an interesting concept in relation to gear especially if it’s being used in the context of if you think it should be gigged or not rather than say the price/value of it...

Well no one can accuse you of saying one thing and doing another since you literally became a keys player! 😀

Neither wrath nor indignation just different SKU’s much like the Pod’s and M Series effects which came before them only they were more obviously different units marketed at the differing needs of players; the ‘all in one unit’ players and the ‘happy with their amp’ players who just wanted decent multi fx. There have been numerous threads where the virtues and flaws of both have been exhaustively discussed and we’ve both commented similarly on them. I don’t think the addition of extra blocks will be a deal breaker on the stomp for many folk considering the payoff of what one might realistically be able to use in those blocks due to the processing requirements but the HXFX could find itself struggling equally with potentially a perceived ‘loss of blocks’ if the amp/cab sims were available in future updates especially if being used along with poly pitch effects. Having 9 blocks drop to 5 or 6 might appear to be a backwards step! Again it’s a trade off and Line 6 made the call to divest some users of amp/cab modelling a long time ago with no obvious consequences and appear to have successfully appealed to both camps. Sure newer tech nips ahead but that’s just the nature of the game.

It’s also worth noting that selecting an amp/cab pairing rather than a separate amp and cab is a little less taxing on DSP so if that were a consideration for building sounds on the Stomp. *I was struggling to load 3.0 but realised that I was still using HX Edit. It turns out you have to close all applications which might be using the Stomp before being able to update the firmware.

Embargo 😀 I think it’s called a SKU

I’m sure this was said with a proud tear spilling down the cheek and the roar of Spirfire’s overhead 😀 Thing is though you’d think that our democratically elected leaders would have had a pandemic playbook of sorts. We have them for terror attacks and other ‘disasters’ except leaves on the tracks and a flurry of snow in mid January. Sure we can allow for the initial WTF moment as a national disaster hits but there should be a national strategy which considers what action should be taken and what resources are needed in this type of scenario. That’s what I expect as a voter. I think it’s great that there’s a been a shred of common sense employed here when looking at the practicalities involved in the deployment and administration of a nationwide vaccination programme. However I can’t help but think back to when the figures were confidently announced from lecturn’s suggesting 100,000 tests would be carried out daily and the ensuing shortfall in numbers and strain on testing facilities. A bit more realism and less politicking might have been a wiser choice with hindsight. Anyway training... It’s not that hard to ‘train’ someone to insert a swab into the nostril but we were left with a massive shortfall in testing based on the toll it took on a system which was unprepared with the sheer magnitude of the task at hand, no one appeared to ask the lab’s what their capacity was before confidently throwing out the big numbers, if the reagents needed were available in such quantities etc. There were some red faces and people were made to look foolish because they wanted to project numbers that they were always going to struggle to hit due to many factors...before then doubling those targets. Much in the same way as with a nasal swab it’s not terribly complicated to administer an intramuscular or sub cut injection but unlike the self administration (of insulin?) as pointed out earlier there are some other small things to consider when administering a mass vaccination programm to the public such as anaphylaxis management and the administration of emergency medication. It’s not an insurmountable task but there is some nuance to these things which add’s to the complexity in relation to training and supplies chains. It’s not just pinching the deltoid or the belly fat and sticking in a needle. If this has been a bit long winded TL:DR version We can bemoan the shortcomings because we’ve seen them first hand time and again. We can also be optimistic that they’ll get it right eventually but many of us remain cautious. Oh and don’t forget to vote!

Isn’t that what Led Zeppelin did as discussed earlier?

Ooh get you!

I prefer this cover to the Sinead O’Conner version but I prefer the original to both covers! I’m a difficult man!

I just meant it in relation to farts

This new type of vaccine is very exciting and the ability to restructure a virus at the dna/rna level to help our bodies easily beat it is clearly where science is developing in the combat of new and unknown virus/pathogens. However for a lot of people these developments with this type of technology poses some/many questions and I can understand someone who doesn’t feel entirely comfortable by the speed at which this new type of vaccine can be brought to market or without what otherwise has become the norm of exhaustive clinical trials with a large data set and importantly the follow up data over many years to track side effects. Being ‘for’ a vaccine doesn’t make us gullible nor does being cautious about one a conspiracy theorist make! The difficulty many folks have is the inevitable involvement of Government, big pharma and how information is disseminated in what has become the fake news/agenda driven news cycle. We’re told to listen to the science but then we see the Government ignore the scientific data/advice and we have a little head scratch! We can all express our opinions on what we think and if we will or won’t take a vaccine but as ever cautious optimism isn’t a bad thing. I’d rather be a cautious optimist in this era than selling the Trumpian ‘we’re turning the corner’ lines which defy the real world stats.

I’d mentioned this podcast on a recent for sale thread as this months featured artist’s custom bass was for sale and he discusses it on the episode. Made me think I should mention it to the wider BC community. Victor Broden hosts and interviews players, chats about their gear, inspirations and motivations. It features players he likes and earlier episodes saw a lot of the Nashville guys but he’s recently relocated to L.A. so features a wider pool of folk as well as his recent road trip where he’s grabbing interviews while on his travels. Victor wrote a long running bass colum in Premier Guitar and has been active on the Nashville scene for years. I like his laid back interview style and he’s a good old fashioned gear nerd so asks the questions we’d like to know answers to. Check him out! The Lowdown Society!

I’d be up for trying this patch if you’re sharing it? Was messing around with some basic octave and fuzz yesterday to fill out some sections with the band and this might be a big way to do that!

Good luck and God’s Speed 😀🤞🏽

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I’d wager everyone in the land want’s this vaccine to be efficacious, efficiently distributed and safely administered. Cautious optimism is neither half full nor half empty it is simply what it is. Let’s get people safely vaccinated, await for the numbers to tell us it is working and we can get back out to gigging when the time is right.