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The Narcissim of Small Differences... kinda Parkinsons Law...kinda A reactor SYNTH PEDAL is so vastly expensive and complicated that an average person cannot understand it, so one assumes that those who work on it understand it. On the other hand, everyone can visualize a cheap, simple bicycle shed MANUAL, so planning one can result in endless discussions because everyone involved wants to add a touch and show personal contribution.

Nae harm pal!

The 'Dusty Hil' is a standard 51 pick up shape - the Split 51 is in a jazz pick up format/case. Gotta give the people what they want!

Another tip which might help for slapping especially on the more rhythmic stuff is learn/internalise the groove finger style first especially if grasping a certain technical aspect feels a bit tricky first off. Learn the basic feel then apply the techniques. If you can play along to an example finger style mimicing ghost notes/groove with the right hand then understanding and applying the right hand slap/pop techniques may come easier. Worked for me on some stuff and good way to separate the left and right hand parts when initially learning a new lick/groove.

Where the song calls for it yeah. It's not often needed in the stuff we do but there are a couple of the tunes where I can get away with some disco octaves and a slap here or there if I fancy throwing it in. Learning some new covers for a dep gig and it works better in some of those tunes. I tend to do very limited slapping but i can if I need to kinda thing and will mess about more at home then on a gig. It's a very specific sounding technique and doesn't always work regardless of what we think! MarloweDK has some great slap tutorials too. Learning slap can be a little 'easier' on 4 string but at least it'll mean you're developing good muting technique on the 5'er - the low b can be a pain initially unless you work the example for the e string off the b.

Look forward to hearing some live samples! You running this with a passive bass or one of your actives?

Yeah I recall when this series was first released and people rightly got very excited. A very solid bass in it's own right. I'll be doing a refin on mine to Sherwood Green! Let's hope I don't F it up

One of these might do a good 50's era P sound. https://nordstrandaudio.com/collections/4-string-jazz-bass-pickups/products/51-split-j-1

Yeah the cabs sims aren’t as extensive but you’ll find one the covers the basics and it’ll sound ‘better’ than a direct DI for your purposes. You may be able to get others from third party but I’m not aware of seeing many berg cab sims.

The noise floor will always be dictated by the drums -is the singer finding the bass too loud or is it the sound she's not liking? You mentoned before you like an aggressive growl, pushing mids type sound. Is that part of the issue and would a more 'supportive' bass sound be less apparent to her? I know I always had a battle with a former MD in a choir gig that she likes a more treble forward bass sound and I preferred a more classic bass sound. It was a balance/compromise on many gigs to get us both happy. Maybe some eq tweaking and volume matching could help with what she's hearing - those upper mids could be fighting with her perceived vocal space?

The cab choice/mic choice I found was a really good way to do a global 'eq' type thing too - some sounding quite deep and others more mid bumped. Often that was enough to define the sound with eq used to make small adjustments. Lot's of options to experiment with just takes patience and time!

Don't forget the post di out (and headphone out I believe) has cab sim too on the new DG heads so you can sound authentic going into the PA/IEM if that's a route you take - you will have to (gasp) do some pc editing to load/choose your preferred cab sim but it's pretty simple so long as you have the right cable. Also your Stomp will/would* (delete as appropriate) have been perfect in this setting too as you could run an amp/cab sim to the desk via one output and have no fx (amp/cab sim) going via another output to the actual bass amp and with the eq and mic options have got the perfect balance of lows and highs relatively quickly.

Don't get me started on the wealth of eq adjustments

Most tech 21 bass stuff is modelled/designed on Fender Bassman or Ampeg style amp circuits of which the stomp has many plus the BDDI, drives, etc.

That's a shame as you'd have so much more flexibility with a digital desk. We do a complete mix for the IEM then just push that FOH as the main venue we play has a sound system in house - it's always playing the 'jukebox' while we set up so no soundcheck for us. As for monitor mixes - you could maybe get an additional patch bay and use that to run other monitors (IEM) from there. It's not something I've had to look into - we just nabbed something that was 'futureproof' for out needs when discussing the new desk. You could contact A&H or local pro audio guys (Yamaha store maybe?) and ask them for advice. So the A&H zed60 is the upgraded desk right?

There is some risk that the cab wont fix the issue you're having with volume - of course it might and if you wanna take the risk we'll all be wishing you well. If the F112 worked then why... O.K. let's not go back down that route! The question is will the 310 fix anything or just create a different set of issues to deal with or is it simply to look good with a new matching Berg head penciled in for purchase in 2020 3 drivers v 1 driver will do different things to perceived volume, dispersion etc, if the cab is at the front of the stage will the output of the 210's be greater than the back firing 110? As another derail... Have you and the band discussed using IEM or do any of them use them in other projects/gig? You never know they might love the idea or is it something you're not really that interested in at this or any juncture? Both of the singers in the band were the biggest fans of going iem as they got what they wanted in their mix. We use a QSC TouchMix which our guy bought used and it is perfect for us.

My earlier suggestion of buy them a Christmas gift was more illustrative than anything. I wouldn't think you'd want to buy the band any more gear if you're already providing the back line, p.a. etc - A £30 belt pack is a pretty cheap outlay and could possibly be absorbed by each member - it's probably about the same as buying a round of drinks for the band. Anyhow enough of this derailment let's get back on topic ...should I take a punt and replace my current gigging cab with a £1000+ 3x10 cab to double as FOH bass amp/bass monitor for my band to better suit the singer/stage volume/venue sound.

Ha! One could buy the band iem rigs for Christmas and still have change from £200. Then buy the DB cabs which best suit the gig and boom! Sorted.

U.K. brand db bass are selling some interesting cabs for not much money via reverb if space is an issue. https://reverb.com/uk/shop/dbs-gear-garage

See my earlier comment: £30 berhinger iem amp, xlr cable and some KZ ear buds should set one back about £70

Ahh ok I just thought it was a viable gigging option which you were pretty happy with and now you’re seeking a replacement. Forgive my ignorance. Carry on!

@Al Krow I’m still none the wiser but sounds like DB5 got a good cab.