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Not that first time I’ve been told that!

#knobhack

Yeah you’ll have to balance the 210 out front against the 110 pointing back and that could cause a volume discrepancy plus if you invert the cab you’ll lose the coupling effect too and lose bass/bottom. @dave_bass5 AK has abdicated his explanation for selling his very capable 112 cab to you - care to elucidate? Berhinger have some very affordable iem amps for about £30. A very handy option to have for the whole band if needed. We all use them and they work just fine.

I was gonna suggest the same - get the bass cab in beside the drums as much as possible and you might better be able to 'match' the volumes - it's what I do on my country gig.

I’m still not entirely sure why you shifted the F112 then if it was more portable, sounded good, put out enough volume and an all round awesome cab? An email to Mr. Bergantino should answer your question if the 310 can be both monitor and FOH or the guys at Barefaced or @Ashdown Engineering might be able to offer advice and why they haven’t yet or might do something similar. I can understand the ‘logic’ of thinking the rear facing driver will work but I’m not convinced yet.

What about the 112 cab you recently sold? - I thought that might have answered some of the size v's output concerns for gigging. I'm guessing it was pretty compact, lighter and easier to load in and out? What was the catalyst for shifting it - I know folk find these full frequency response cabs can be quite unforgiving - that's been my experience listening to them.

I'm kinda with @ped on this one. The bass/pick up combinations might be the core feature which is providing the sounds your after with any on board or pedal-based pre-amp simply accentuating that inherent voicing. I say this with recent experience with 'jazz growl'... I've just recently got a jazz bass - a not very expensive Squier but a decent enough version of the classic JJ configuration. It instantly sounded like a jazz bass (unsurprisingly) when using my existing settings on my amp, on my interface, and into a couple of pre-amps I have knocking about. I understand how the pick up placement, the classic mid scoop etc works and trying to 'eq a P bass' to sound like a jazz just doesn't sound like a jazz even with dual semi parametric mid controls - it can get to sound scooped but lacks the authenticity of a JJ. You may find that if you have some basses which have this combination you mention above already and are nailing the sound you like other basses just wont sound as authentic by virtue of their pick up placement etc. On my gig last night I was running the Jazz into a Tone Hammer and then into my amp. Tone hammer was boosting a bit of low mids and had the AGS engages to add a wee touch of drive - the TH was simply enhancing what was already there. A bit of amp drive now and again that added the 'grind' but it was only really making the JJ sound more pronounced in the same way it would make my P sound like the P bit with some dirt. I know it's hard to qualify these things in words and we all have different meanings of words such as grind grit etc. I was rethinking the Grizzy bass pedal actually as that can do a pretty good scoped sound as well as grit but I'm not sure that it's the sound in your head.

You nabbed yourself a new BBNE 😀

Gotta have a system!

Back up what is on your Stomp via HX Edit I think the settings you save on your pc from the HX Stomp should transfer over. If you’re not using amp/cab sims then it should be a breeze.

Maybe an external preamp to bolster the bass? I have used a couple and I think the 18v of the Tone Hammer offers a bit more but a recently acquired Alien Audio preamp works really well just with a different vibe. It’s a very musical pre and I may switch them over the coming gigs to see if it’s significantly making a difference to me. I’d post in the pedal board thread but I’d literally be posting the exact same thing every time only switching back and forth between one or t’other 😀

Sorry for the derail just putting my earlier post in context. Carry on!

Nice!

COC vibe

Yeah just installed one if John’s kits today. The jury is still out on changing the pick ups I like how these sound and I’ll see if the new VVT pots make a difference at rehearsal tonight. Pairing it with the TH with just a touch of AGS gain is a very nice match. I used to play a jazz 6-7years back both 4 and 5 string (Lakland JO5 in fact) so it’s a very familiar tone and feel. The neck is great and I may take the lacquer off which I’ve done on my PBird and it feel great finished with Danish Oil. I have an idea for a pick up pairing either the new Nordstrand Split 51 in the neck and hum cancelling NJ4 in the bridge or a pair of Creamery 60’s wind but I’ll give the bass a few months gigging before I do anything. If that Lakland neck shows up get in touch as I do like the JO4 neck. Is it RW/M and a good fit?

You guessed it loom ordered, loom delivered next day! Classic John customer service! You need a loom? Get one of John's it's that simple!

I know a lot of users have had great success using pitch down for half step and whole step detuning on gigs which not the same as ‘simple octave up or down’ it’s certainly proved to be practical and usable on the gig and ultimately a more useful implementation of pitch manipulation although maybe not something everyone will find useful. My guitarist uses it all the time as a virtual Capo with great success and it seems to be the views of many other uses real world experiences especially on this site. I should really qualify this quote as it was pounced upon and interpreted in a way which suggested I think the stomp can do ‘any sound’ 🙄 People buy the stomp for many reasons and with different expectations. The stomp is unlikely to nail ‘every’ sound one might need but what it can do is offer a massive palette of tones, colours and I/O options for the gigging player and home studio. It also allows those interested in doing so to recreate many different and varied tones be that classic sounds or new takes on classic sound. It also allows for the wider community to share settings so those with zero interest or desire can maximise the pedals benefits with minimal time spent with their nose in a manual. While there are some limitations it’s generally accepted that it’s a good option for many looking for multi fx to be their only unit or to compliment an existing set up. With some time invested and having an understanding of what one wants it does offer lots from a myriad of routing options to conventional and unconventional tones. In terms of what it offers for the price/features/ease of use it’s a great option. I have owned a stomp but ultimately I’m quite content with my humble pedal board for my gigging needs but certainly enjoyed playing and using it, discovering how to maximise its potential within my recording and gigging set up. I briefly owned a second stomp but that was super cheap and only really bought to flip for a profit. In saying that the amp and bass I bought with that cash are giving me much joy! Some folks just enjoy buying kit because it looks nice, fills a space on their pedal board, to simply say they have one or it covers ‘price of admission’ to specific groups/clubs etc and that's grand as we’re ‘experts’ on what we like...not necessarily experts on the gear we like. My last point is I was implying that if one wanted to recreate the SH1 preamp/drive pedal, a relatively simple eq/and drive with 4 or 5 basic controls and a brite setting the stomp could likely recreate it or pretty much close enough that it would be worth trying or that the audience would care. If I wade into a synth thread saying you guys don’t know how to program a Hx stomp cause it can do anything I’m happy to be corrected but in the context of this thread and knowing the capabilities of the stomp I’d expect (an)other stomp owner(s) to have a touch of savvy and make the connection. If one wishes to compare a dedicated synth pedal's capabilities to the stomp be my guest but not every thread on bc needs to have mention of the Future Impact, the boss synth or whatever the current flavour of the month is.

Used it at rehearsal tonight. 👍🏽👍🏽 Getting the VVT replaced but otherwise sounds as expected. Once the pots are changed I’ll reconsider other upgrades but ticking all the boxes for now.

It’s fair to assume I was talking about drive sounds on the helix considering the thread title. Recreating the SH1 and it’s 7 or 8 controls with the HX stomp should be pretty straightforward what with the assignable eq, global eq, parallel signal paths, hpf, array of amp and cab sims (including the Hiwatt) and drive pedal options. It’s being a tad obtuse to imply I was saying the stomp can recreate ‘any sound’ with enough time spent programming and imagine you were well aware of that you cheeky imp! Anyway following your recent pedalboard thread update I’ll let you get back to programming your Stomp looks like you’ve still a bit of work to do...

The helix will do pretty much what you want it to do. It just putting the time into it to make it do your bidding.

£120

Fewer models more with more attention to detail across what left of the range. Fender just don’t wanna miss out on the high end market and much like Coca Cola having 15 different sizes on drinks form 125ml to 1l, 1.25l, 1.75l, 2l it’s just flooding all price points of the market and having that presence. It’s neither big, clever or new but it’s the corporate way!

I do believe so!

I got a cracking bargain on this bass off a local guy who was shifting a load of unused gear. It needed a clean and some new strings but otherwise was set up well and all electronics are fully working if a little crap on account of being cheap parts. The stock pick up's sound grand and have that jazz bass thing especially with the new strings. Gonna change the wiring loom to some better pots with a proper 'sweep' across their range rather than 'on on on on on on off' but otherwise I'm quite chuffed. I'll be using it at rehearsal tonight and tomorrow with two different bands so looking forward to hearing it at volume! Plugging into my pedal board, (Tone Hammer DI and comppressor) the Tone Hammer it's really complimenting the sound and of course the new strings are adding to the crisp top end. I've tried a couple of other pre-amps with it but this is a great pairing for this particular bass - bumping the lo mids is giving it the right amount of oomph and I look forward to fine tuning that with the drummer later tonight. Been about 6 years since I've owned/played a jazz and it's a very familiar and enjoyable tone for £120! Certainly prefer this to a recent PJ i was using but hard to qualify why?!

Custom made neck (Jon Shuker etc) to the same spec and have him do it nice and fancy like!