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[quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1336736142' post='1650170'] So in other words made by Fender in the hope that people buy the version with the badge. [/quote] Which finally brings us back to the point in question, sort of

I bought a neck Jon advertised, great communication, fast posting & well packed, the neck is exactly as advertised or even better than expected! Smooth transaction, no problems, a pleasure to deal with. Cheerz, John

[quote name='skankdelvar' timestamp='1336660192' post='1649088'] As for beverages on amps, my chum has a story about getting a JCM 800 head in for repair that had 'stopped working, dunno why'. The cabinet interior and chassis were covered in vegetable soup. [/quote] There's only one thing worse than vegetable soup & that's regurgitated vegetable soup, which was it? hard to tell I suppose Lovely

[quote name='the boy' timestamp='1336651721' post='1648897'] You're the one whos on the high horse buddy. Quoting me insinuating that I'm somehow inferior, and suggesting I save my pennies. I'm not being a dick. If you don't own a fender then why do you even give a crap. I think you're out of line. I think you should apologise for calling me a dick. I think you are very mean. [/quote] Shouldn't you be at school?

[quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1336585885' post='1648043'] So It's the serial numbers you have a problem with not the Fender logo? [color=#0000ff]Not my problem, I'm not buying from him.[/color] So it's okay for discreet to buy a bass wanting a Fender logo but not an ebay chappy who wants a squier with a Fender logo? [color=#0000ff]Yep it's fine.[/color] He's not doping anyone. He says in the advert they are not Fenders. Going on his feed back he buys a lot of Squiers if he's not flipping them on with fender logos is he collecting them? . [color=#0000ff]If you don't believe he's 'doping' anyone you'd make a perfect customer for him[/color] I have bought one guitar online. Pretty sure it wasn't the one thomann had pictured. Have another ready to buy. I hope it's not the one photographed. They've had it for a few years if it was. Someone on a forum commented on the squinty sticker in the sound hole around 2008 [color=#0000ff]He's not a shop selling hundreds of the same model, but perhaps he's aspiring to[/color]? [/quote]

[quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1336584021' post='1647986'] Gear porn, precision Discreets bass made by the Bass Doc. [color=#0000ff]I don't see a duplicate serial number?[/color] So your problem is not that they have the badge it's that they have the badge (A fake serial obviously) and being sold even though they aren't being sold as fenders but the seller says Squier? [color=#0000ff]It's not my problem I was replying to the OP of this thread initially & trying to offer some advice.[/color] Where is the difference in this guy putting a fender label on a squier and selling it and the bass doc putting a Fender label on a bass he's built to sell to discreet? [color=#0000FF]Because Discreet asked for a logo as his custom made bass is made to represent the best (in his personal opinion) of the features of Fenders through the decades, it's what he wants, it's not something he's buying which is a fake that has to be said is being sold to dupe people. If not the first person that buys it but very likely some poor unsuspecting buyer somewhere down the line.[/color] If anything the Squier is a Fender after all. [color=#0000FF]I'm not convinced that the majority of basses he sells 'described as Squier's even' are actually made by Fender or Squier, the numbers don't add up for a start. The heads & in particular the surround of the Truss rod adjuster don't look Squier to me.[/color] As for using the same picture. Do you get the bass you see pictured on the Shops website? [color=#0000ff]Every bass I've ever bought has been the one advertised, I wouldn't have it any other way, even basses I've bought direct from USA.[/color] [/quote] [color=#0000ff]My original reply to this thread was made with the intention [/color][color="#0000ff"]to notify the OP of the probable dubious nature of the bass in question but looking a little deeper I seem to have opened a can of worms.[/color]

[quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1336583271' post='1647966'] So why don't you comment on the threads on the main bits of the forum where members build basses for other people using Fender logos? [/quote] Completely different scenario, show me one of the basses you're talking about - with duplicated serial numbers & being offered on ebay as something they're not, let alone using the same photo's & description to sell 'the same bass' several times over!

[quote name='the boy' timestamp='1336580957' post='1647924'] Are you a cop? Not everyone can afford a gold jazz, also it's very few people can pimp a squier to make it look like something they aspire to own. This guy fills a gap in the market. I've done the maths on a few of his conversions and he isn't making any money here, and youd be hard pushed to mod the squier any cheaper yourself. What planet am I from? Really? Come on now let's not loose the run of ourselves here. [/quote] You really don't understand do you?

[quote name='the boy' timestamp='1336579095' post='1647868'] I would be very surprised if a single contributor to this sight hasnt at some stage owned a decal job squier. It's widely accepted as the norm. It clearly says squier in the title I really don't see what's the problem is. He is selling a squier guitar and he says it's a squier. What more can he do. [/quote] What planet are you from? There's only one *Norm* around here & he plays a Gold jazz mostly What more can he do? How about go to prison for flooding the market with FAKES!

Always pleased to see a big smilie at the end of a line [size=5][color=#ff0000]Seriously folks[/color][/size] I've been looking at this guy's feedback & it's F'in unbelieveable - he's sold *the same bass* F knows how many times, a Sunburst P - 4th, 5th, 7th 11th & 16th ofMarch, the black one that advertised now was also sold on 26th February! [url="http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=sean1000_7&&_trksid=p4340.l2560&iid=180836750360&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller"]http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=sean1000_7&&_trksid=p4340.l2560&iid=180836750360&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller[/url]

I'm really concerned with the number of fakes turning up on eBay. I notice mostly Fender or Squier. No matter how these are described when they're advertised, many of the unfortunate buyers are blissfully unaware & by the law of averages at least some of these fakes are going to end up being advertised here on BC. Just look at the Serial Number thread above this forum, see one example of feedback & how many fakes have been sold with the same serial number. I feel sorry for the poor guy or gal, young or old, who buys one in the best of faith, gets fed up with, joins BC to try & sell it! It's probably already happened, I don't know. I hope we can do our bit to help get rid of these scum & report fake items to eBay, it only takes a few clicks, a couple of minutes to do. Cheerz, John end of rant ;-)

You only have to look at this guy's feedback - 'view item' - & count up how many he's sold with the same serial number [url="http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=sean1000_7&&_trksid=p4340.l2560&iid=180836750360&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller"]http://feedback.ebay...eedbackAsSeller[/url] It also appears that he's sold *something* using the same photo's many times over!

[quote name='Ou7shined' timestamp='1336569874' post='1647664'] D180766 (1982 USA Fullerton Jazz) spotted on what is probably a Squier... P [/quote] There were 2 today with the same serial number & if you follow this link & look at this guy's feedback you'll find he's sold quite a few more! You've been warned! [url="http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=sean1000_7&&_trksid=p4340.l2560&iid=180836750360&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller"]http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=sean1000_7&&_trksid=p4340.l2560&iid=180836750360&sspagename=VIP:feedback&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller[/url]

[quote name='the boy' timestamp='1336574299' post='1647761'] It's an Obvious squier and the seller admits it in the title. He sells loads of these pimped up squiers. It looks to me like he does a pretty decent job as well. I've contacted him about other guitars before and he makes no bones of the fact they are modded. I think he's above board. [/quote] How can what he's doing be "above board"? He's selling basses with fake decals & serial numbers, I know he's not the only one but the fact that he doesn't claim they're not Fenders don't make it any more right!

[url="http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fender-Squier-Precision-Bass-Guitar-/180878118870?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item2a1d2d0fd6"]http://www.ebay.co.u...=item2a1d2d0fd6[/url] Well what do you know? Another '82 Jazz? I don't think so That really takes the star prize for stupid 2 dodgy basses listed both with the same serial number & decal! T.W.A.T.

Guitardaterproject.org says that serial [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]D180766 is a 1982 USA Fullerton Jazz Bass, so I reckon it's one of the con Fender Decals on a could be anything neck. It looks a decent enough bass but not £170's worth. At least he's not claiming it's a USA Fender [/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] ;)Send him some questions[/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/color]

A few years ago I went to Bonners Eastbourne the biggest music shop around here, cash in pocket, £600+ to buy a new bass. I tried many but didn't find anything I liked better than what I had my heart set on, a Fender Aerodyne Jazz, which they didn't have in stock. They said they could order one & if it was in the warehouse it would only be a few days, so everything was written in the 'order book' with my contact details etc. A week or so went by - I 'phoned & got a load of BS but no info. A few days later I went in to shop & guy I dealt with wasn't there, so usual faffing around until they came up with, not in stock in UK, would find out when they could get one soonest. So I waited for that 'phone call, which never came of course. 6 weeks from original order I went back to shop. More faffing & blank looks' BS by the ton, then finally - "Well you can't have ordered it because we've no record of you paying a deposit & we never order specials without a deposit". I went into very loud angry mode & after a good amount of shouting walked out. They lost a customer for ever. I then 'phoned GAK Brighton, who had one in stock so asked them to hold it for me until next day, which they agreed to. Went in next day & to my surprise it was not 'put aside' or anything, just on display in the shop & in the filthiest condition you could possibly expect a 'shop soiled' bass to be. It wasn't tuned & the action was about 1/4" high, impossible to play! The sales guy wasn't interested & when I commented on the condition I was told they'd give it a wipe over. I never did get an Aerodyne after that, went right off the idea dealing with companies like Thomman is so efficient, I have also had good service from many of the big UK based internet stores with no problems.

These are handy: [url="http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/60150176/"]http://www.ikea.com/gb/en/catalog/products/60150176/[/url]

You really want to part with a cherished P-bass? Personally I reckon a bass like that is a keeper, backline gear is just that, easy come easy go & I wouldn't buy gear like that on a whim, not for the sake of a loved bass If you do - the last thing I'd do is trade it in shop, they'll offer (as said above) about 1/2 it's worth. Much better to put some photo's up on here & a realistic asking price, it'll sell quick enough unless overpriced & most likely go to a good home or try getting a trade for some gear you want. You might even be able to 'keep in touch' with it & who knows - in the future you might even want it back

My pleasure to start a feedback thread for Paddy & at the same time extend my hand in a warm welcome to the forum. Paddy needed a bit of a hand assembling parts for the electrics in his P-bass build, he sourced all the right parts, I put them all in the right place for him & supplied a 'ready to go' complete wiring kit. He's a real pleasure to deal with, great communication, a real gent. No problem recommending him to one & all. Looking forward to the finished build + photo's of course Cheerz, John

[quote name='Immo' timestamp='1336044540' post='1639897'] Only those stickers with 'CE' and "Don't dispose off with reular trash" should be removed! The plate itself is great [/quote] +1 They're totally unnecessary, don't understand why Fender fit the XWheelieBinX I'm sure that means "Don't dispose of batteries in regular waste" I always get them off ASAP, they just annoy me

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1336033264' post='1639633'] Unless the eBay bidding mechanism has changed recently it doesn't work like that. The only way a bid can pass the reserve if the starting price is lower is for another bid to push it past the reserve price. If the starting price is £100 and the reserve is £200. If I bid £250 eBay places my bid at £100. If the auction ends there the bids won't have reached the reserve price and the item remains unsold. If someone else bids £150 then that pushes my bid up to £155, but we still haven't reached the reserve price so no-one wins. The only way to pass the reserve price is for 2 or more people to place bids higher than the reserve. [/quote] That's how I see it too

[quote name='Musky' timestamp='1336030262' post='1639597'] If you bid £100 on something with a £100 reserve the price automatically goes to £100 to meet that reserve. The reason why the seller can't see the maximum bids is because that would just invite shill bidding! [/quote] I don't think it works like that.

What I don't get is if an item has a reserve set let's say £100 & if I bid £100 while the bidding is still below the reserve, my bid goes in at the next incremental bid, lets say it was at £75 so my bid shows at £80, nobody will ever know that I bid £100 unless another bid comes in at at least £95? So at £80, if there are no higher bids, the auction ends as 'reserve not met' & the seller wouldn't find out that I had actually bid £100 - unless I sent them a message! Then the sale is likely/chance to continue 'outside of ebay' which is not in ebay's interest. So why is there no mechanism that allows the seller to see what a bidders maximum is? Or am I missing something? Also I would never know what the reserve was, or that my bid of £100 would have been enough to win, but only if someone else had bid £95 or more