4 Strings

http://www.guitar.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/thumbnail/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/t/r/traben-neo-4-string-aged-wh_1.jpg Sorry.

Where do you want the neck pup to be? Some are right up at the neck (Gibson et al), others, like the Lull, are in the P position. If you like the Yamaha sound, probably the P position is what you want. The Stingray HH is up by the neck (probably why I didn't like mine) whereas the G&L are more P position. Just an observation which might help to eliminate some from this difficult reckoning.

I remember asking them a question about the V1 valve in the Streamliner and got a response straight back from Jeff Genzler. Seemed to actually encourage experimentation with it. Shame to have lost all that. No doubt he won't be troubled for finance for the rest of his life, maybe he'll do a Leo and pop up with another company! Wish there was a UK firm who would make amps like these.

[quote name='Roland Rock' timestamp='1398460678' post='2434477'] Fender have brought out some heads based on the Genz stuff, but I don't know how loud they are. Another promising head is the Bugera Veyron. These appear to be very heavily influenced by the Streamliner, and there is no shortage of watts! No idea when they come to market, or price, although Bugera (Behringer) tend to be very competitively priced. [url="http://www.dv247.com/guitars/bugera-bv1001t-veyron-t--207798"]http://www.dv247.com...eyron-t--207798[/url] [/quote] Goodness, looks like they bought the rights for the Streamliner, that's very similar. Must have been looking the other way, didn't realise Fender closed down GB! I saw STLs were cheap at Bass Direct, didn't realise why. What a crying shame! I have an STL900 and it's the best amp I've ever had.

That's a bargain for a Mex Deluxe. These are serious basses, apparently using electronics from California. Not sure whether the body is in many parts, who cares. My lad has gigged one of these for a couple of years now, probably 100 gigs or so, loves it and has no desire to 'upgrade'. He gets a really, really nice jazz sound from that bridge pup.

http://basschat.co.uk/topic/175341-mm-ray-with-gold-hardwear/page__p__1640589__hl__bathroom__fromsearch__1#entry1640589

No pics no bass! I prefer the 3 band, gives a nice option to give a bit more presence without getting louder.

Just a little thought are you sure you'd like a double humbucker? I thought I did, bought a MM 4HH and also an old Sabre. Nice basses but the neck humbucker didn't really give what I wanted. It was nearer the Gibson mud bucker type sound. This isn't a bad sound, just not one I wanted. When I had a custom built I specified a P type, single coil pickup (albeit in a J casing, wound in opposing directions to buck the hum) and it is perfect. Full and rich rather than flappy and dull. Of the two MM basses the neck pup on the Sabre is much the better, to my ear , I didn't get on with the 4HH at all, hollow muddy sound on the neck pup. Def try the G&L. Would be my first stop now.

[quote name='Foxx' timestamp='1396915732' post='2418809'] [attachment=159681:SRFront.jpg] That now sits in my house, all original bar satin re-fin body, which I thought looked ace, the sound is incredible, tryed for years to create something like it, but never really succeeded, until now. Reckon I might get the body clear coated though at some point, the finish is nice, but being gloss would really set it off i think. Has the original mute springs, but the foam rubber is long since gone, planning on replacing it with the neoprene stuff that goes under jazz bass pickups, about the right dimensions when cut to length i reckon. But either way, happy as a pig in **** now. [/quote] It is, of course, totally gorgeous, especially in that red and, yes, gloss would be great. Get thick stuff for the pads. I cut up a mouse pad for my Sabre, but they didn't reach the strings when wound up!

[quote name='bakerster135' timestamp='1398688359' post='2436528'] Amazing. They could be sisters! Has yours got a brass nut on it? How do you find that if so, does it improve things? [/quote] Oh absolutely, it's so, well, brass coloured! In reality, naah. I suppose I don't have one with a plastic nut to compare, but fretted notes are fretted anyway and the occasional open note sounds like an open note. There are a couple of Stinrgrays on the database from that age with a brass nut. Not sure if they made a batch at the factory or it was just a fashionable modification of the time. Looks cool if you polish it (for a week or so). Still got the original damper pads, now lumps of formless goo. Just back from using it at a rehearsal. Best basses in the world!

Best bass in the world. I got one too, same colour, year(s) etc. [URL=http://s1341.photobucket.com/user/4Strings1/media/Pre-EBStingray_zps5c4597f2.jpg.html][IMG]http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o760/4Strings1/Pre-EBStingray_zps5c4597f2.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

Yours has been a bizarre experience, PauBass. Glad you're getting one sorted eventually and I think we can also understand why, despite the good experiences of others you're not likely to be going back to Roqsolid.

Just a thought, I wonder if it was, for some reason, a non-standard cab? Did you ever send the dims of your cab and handle positions to Roqsolid? I have their covers on my Midget and Compact and they fit with uncanny accuracy (and have been indestructible). I wonder if your cab is slightly different to the standard dims they have for it?

[quote name='Beedster' timestamp='1397246470' post='2422287'] It doesn't, if it did everyone would play a Jazz and the Precision would be redundant. [/quote] I think anyone would be pushed to tell the difference. It's not the only important difference between the basses. Going to your other post, Beedster, absolutely GROOVE it all depends on this regardless of bass used.

The neck pup on a Jazz sounds pretty much like a P, get a Jazz for all things. Verdine White is one of my bass heroes. Not impressed with the solos etc you see on Youtube but his recorded work is so, so good. Like 'Nard, he has that ability to play repetitively and accurately but with just enough variation to make it human, loaded with feel and creativity. A good source for inspiration!

Brighton, with all my band!

I'd call the meeting and tell them that you're going to follow icastle's suggestion above. Win-win. You might also find out how good they are as friends. I had a similar experience, paying for rehearsal space, rehearsing for a single gig which was way off and absolutely no organisation regarding what songs etc. Each rehearsal started with a look at the set list, as if it was something new, and deciding 'let's just go through the songs'. No progress, never would be, I was out after 3. Keyboard player was great though! I call them 'Bingo' bands. You can't practice for Bingo, just turn up, no preparation between events necessary.

I have one too. Great amp. Do they look better without the leds? Can you see the warm glow of the valves in the little window?

If you had a stainless steel neck you'd expect it to make the bass sound bright as the material is so hard. Maple is a hard wood, rosewood even harder, ebony hardest of all. The string runs from the bridge to the metal frets. The tone difference of the string when held against a metal fret set in hard wood or marginally harder wood is going to be marginal, if at all audible/measurable. Maple looks brighter and so may give the impression of sounding brighter than rosewood but is slightly less hard and so is more likely to give a less bright sound. A layer of lacquer on the maple is young to keep it clean but not much else. The Fender maple fingerboards used to be one piece as cutting the frets directly into the maple neck was cheaper than adding a separate, harder fingerboard. The skunk stripe was from the truss rod being added to the back of the neck instead of the front. Nowadays, as has been posted, the process for standard basses is uniform, either a maple or rosewood fingerboard is stuck over the front mounted truss rod (same for both MM and Fender and, it seems, everyone else). I believe there would be a difference between these modern necks with separate finger boards and the older one piece necks, but not so much in tone but in resonance. Almost any solid maple bass neck has a resonance on the 5th fret of the G string in which the body/neck system absorbs vibrations to give a short sustain and a bit of buzz against your belly. With any composite construction this will be compromised and so the is sustain more even across the strings and frets. Also, Mr Letts is perfectly correct when he says that rosewood holds the fret tangs better than the softer maple.

[quote name='Dingus' timestamp='1393351718' post='2379187'] Bernard's talent transcended electricity . He was so funky that the normal laws of physics did not apply to his bass playing. [/quote] Ha! Where's that 'like' button! In the 'chucking' clip, def flats.

Almost all here is good advice, I've studied his playing for some covers and to try and get some of his talent to rub off. He is a supreme bass player, very classy and able so don't feel too down hearted if you don't completely nail his sound, I've yet to find anyone who has! (That clip is sounds great, but nothing is plugged in!)

[quote name='Hutton' timestamp='1387193721' post='2309107'] Just got this rather nice 2010 American Standard Jazz. [/quote] Yes!