Buckminster Emptier

It's not like it's some mystery of how to set the amp up. You plug the amp into the speaker cabinet. It's set up. I can crank the gain all the way to 10 and I have to turn it up to a volume so loud the amp head shakes off the cabinet to get even the smallest amount of grit on the signal.

Well then how do you get the goddamn thing to overdrive? That's the whole reason I bought it, its advertised as having a tube gain stage that gives it the grit of classic Mesa tube amps. I find that to be very misleading. It's an $1200 amp and it has two almost identical channels, neither of which distort or have any kind of overdrive to them. What's the point? I've really had it with this amp. Now I'm gonna have to sell it and loose a few hundred on the purchase. Is there a bass amp with actual overdrive, not dark glass digital cow poop but real overdrive?

According to the TT 800 manual the boogie channel is a tube power amp. Isn't that what it means when it has a tube driven gain stage?

Your manual for the TT 800 says it has two channels, one is class D and one is all tube. Is this not correct? If it's not then your manual is extremely misleading. These guys are saying it is strictly a class D amp, that's not what the manual says. I understand now that it has too much power for an attenuator. It's too bad really because I can't get the signal to distort without turning it way the he'll up. Is this any different at 4 ohm? I'm running at 8 ohms. The only time I can get it to distort is through headphones. I thought the point of the Boogie channel is that it is a tube amp, you're sposed to get an overdrive gritty sound. I can only get that with it turned very loud so I assumed an attenuator would help. The manual goes on and on about its over driven signal, but I don't get that much. I have a rickenbacher. When I dig in it will distort a little but I think that's actually the bass pickups and not your amp.

The amp I'm talking about is the Mesa TT 800. It has two channels, one is class D and one is driven by all tubes. For that channel both pre amp and power amp and effects loop all driven by tubes isn't that what it means to have a tube driven gain stage?

The mesa tt 800 has two channels, one is a all tube amp, one is a class d amp. It says it has a tube driven gain stage. Isn't that a tube amp?

Does anyone use one of these? I was thinking of buying one but the only ones I see on the market are for guitar amps. I can't find one that mentions it works for a bass amp in its description, and all the reviews I see online are from guitar players. It seems lntuitive that it would work for both, but I can't seem to confirm that. I am thinking of buying it for a Mesa TT800 by the way. It's sounds great when loud but doesn't overdrive when you turn it low. The one I'm looking at is JHS Black Box and it works by putting it in the FX loop, which is what sets it apart from the more expensive ones on the market. It really is a lot cheaper

No guns blazing.Thats kind of blowing things out of proportion, which is what you guys did yesterday. I simply criticized a band you like, and said that if you group Creed with SOAD you don't have any authority on the subject. And I stand by that. And you guys act like that's the worst thing any wild American ever said here. I wasn't trolling you I was participating in a discussion in which someone already said "all of those bands your name suck" how is what I said any worse? You either have very sensitive skin or you don't like Americans or there has to be some other reason you can't handle someone not insulting you at all, just saying you dont know what Nu Metal is And sorry it was your buddy who made the comment about Americans. You guys were teaming up on me and I got confused. Three of you went on the attack , calling me a daft wild American, and a troll. One guy went to looking up my other posts to make a case against me. All because I said that if you think Creed and SOAD are the same type of music you don't really have authority to talk about this. That's nothing man. Go back and read that stinky poo you guys did way more in the way if attacking me. Mine wasn't even an attack, I expected you to say " oh I guess you're right I hate all 90s music " to which I would have said " can't say I blame you but Creed is Def not Nu Metal, however Limp Biscuit is the epitome of Nu Metal" Nothing Trollish about it.

I wouldn't think they'd bugger you if you say things like bugger, you fit right in.

You have to rub them the right way, that's what the one guy said.

The reason Limp Biscuit sucks is because the guy is a terrible rapper and his voice is all wheezy or like squeaky. I don't know exactly what youre talking about, I don't doubt it, but I hated that band the first day I heard them and still do. In fact they are the reason Nu Metal sucks, singlehandedly. Even Korn had one good album, but Limp Biscuit is terrible. And the icing on the cake is if you know what the name means, it's flipping disgusting. Mastodon = not Nu Metal, that's just metal Def tones = maybe someone could say they influenced Nu Metal but they were out years before there was any talk of Nu Metal. I saw Mastodon open for Clutch in a venue with maybe 500 capacity max. I had no idea who they were, this was like late 90s. It was a great show.

I didn't call them butt holes that's just what the site fills in. And people are doing nothing but expressing their opinion, I express mine and I'm a troll. I don't need to look at your other posts because I'm not the one making personal attacks. That sounds kinda trollish to me, all I did was say Limp Biscuit sucks, I'm shocked anyone I defending them. You've both called me a troll and implied something about where I'm from. And called me daft, whatever the hell that is, it sounds a lot like an insult. I've only expressed an opinion about a band. And I'm the troll. I think you just don't like Americans, and that's why you are bullying me You said something negative about SOAD right after the other guy said he liked them. Isn't that what you are now calling me a troll over? By the way every band you guys are talking about are "wild Americans". You guys sure know how to make a guy feel welcome. If you look at my other post I wasn't trolling anyone, that's just what you've made me into so you have a license to bully the new American. So when your moderator comes along he sees troll and thinks you re defending yourself. Been there and done that. If you don't want Americans in your exclusive club you can just say so. Well, I guess you have, haven't you?

From Limp Biscuit though? Names all the bands who aren't Nu Metal as the example of why it sucks, then picks the epitome of new metal and give it a pass. That's all I'm saying.

How can you talk stinky poo about the scene but say you have a soft spot for Limp Biscuit, thats like the epitome of the genre and the very worst of it all. That's hilarious, that's like saying you don't mind taking heroin once in a while but you can't stand people who take drugs. Haha.. I'm not trying to be a Richard but come on ; let's have at least a little self awareness when we are criticizing.

If you are lumping together SOAD with Creed you really shouldn't be authorized to discuss this subject. You're basically lumping together any rock band to come out in the 90s. Actually on second thought, if you take SOAD out and maybe Audioslave we could let the rest slide.