SimonK

It's a sweet rig and similar to mine. I really like the GP12 head, probably my favourite TE head, and if it was closer would put in an offer - the heads go for a max of £300 on their own, although I'm holding out for something around the £200 mark closer to me.

So just seen this in the market place as the seller just dropped his price. The connundrum is I think it is still over-priced by a fair bit, but the gentlemanly side of me thinks I shouldn't say anything unless giving an offer myself, and thus he should be free to get the best price he can... I stuck a picture from the facebook listing underneath.

Which is why my main focus is making sure it sounds good where I am standing as I simply can't be everywhere at once so can adjust the one thing I have control over. Of course if the person mixing FoH asks for adjustments I will generally make them unless it stops me being able to hear myself. But providing a nice DI signal with a bit of compression to stop any big peaks, and using a HPF set at about 40, seems to keep engineers happy. Years back I used to do the FoH sound and play at the same time, and yes that requires a slightly different philosophy, but at the moment I am lucky enough always to have someone else handle the PA.

Yes I agree on this - I always make sure my cabs are at least a foot away from a wall, but better yet is something absorbent like a curtain behind the cabs. I did once leave an open bass case behind the cabs in a particularly bad room but not entirely sure it made a huge difference. The other thing is coupling or decoupling the cab from the ground using casters/beer crates etc. Certainly hollow stages are a real problem if the cab sits directly on the floor. Mind you I would still say playing technique followed by EQ make the biggest difference.

I'm not haggling, and I'm not going anywhere near that sale thread - thing is I don't actually think that pedal is much good, or worth more than about £50 max, so if he can get three times that price good on him, although I suspect he will illustrate the OP's post. Thus said I'm not convinced the second hand market is any different from how it has always been - priced right anything will sell, priced wrong it won't. Mind you as time goes on I do think more and more music kit is becoming available second hand simply because more has been made over time. Thirty years ago it was all about Boss pedals and Fender guitars, now the options seem endless!

...apart from if you don't think you sound good you don't play as well so that overall the sound ends up being worse. My number one worry is to sound good to me (and yes in the context of all the other instruments) as there is someone else (sound guy) to worry about how it sounds in the room...

It does generally seem to be a great time to be a buyer, however I'm sitting on all sorts of things that I can't be bothered to sell because conversly the money isn't really worth the effort. It feels a real waste in a way because I think someone could be using the kit (mostly pedals, amps and cabs) but for the odd £20, £50 or even £100 the effort to sell is greater than my desire for the money - but maybe I'm just a spoiled brat... Thus said I saw this on here yesterday - https://www.basschat.co.uk/topic/508714-black-big-muff-russian-circa-20034ish-£140-posted/ - I didn't want to piss on the guys sale so haven't posted anything, but I picked up exactly the same pedal for £20 fully working a few years back!

The other thing is people pricing something at what they value it for, rather than what the market will give. I'm kicking myself for not getting a screenshot last week to illustrate this, but there were two identical Trace Elliot 2x10 cabs on Facebook Marketplace, one priced at £40 and the other at £260. Needless to say I jumped in the car and bought the £40 cab, and the other is still languishing on market place. As a bit of a Trace Elliot collector it does amuse (and slightly sadden) me how much some people list things for, especially when I know I have the exact same item that I picked up for often a hundreth of some asking prices:

There's been a bunch of news stories today about fake bailifs - my plan would be to give them a Trace Elliot cab to guarantee they never came back following whatever back injury they give themselves... 😮 !

It's an interesting thought - at the end of the day a performance is, well, a performance of which the live sound is only one aspect. So if miming live is part of the bands image the question is simply whether that is something you want, or enjoy doing, or whether you would prefer to be in a band that actually plays live. To me it sounds like a personal choice as to how you want to spend your evening!

Yes clearly experimenting is important with different things working at different times - but I think knowing what to experiment with is key. I'm certainly guilty of wanting to buy something new when in fact changing my playing technique might make far more of a difference!

I was playing drums this morning (sorry people) with a 17 year old bass player using a Vigier PJ bass into my Trace Elliot GP7 & 4x10 (so I know the amp itself sounds great). He wasn't playing the wrong notes but it just didn't really sound great. Looked over and he was plucking the strings right at the end of his fretboard - said "why don't you move your right hand closer to the bridge" and boom - straight away everything was loads better. He said he would go away and practice the new hand position, but I was stunned quite how much of a difference right hand position makes - I sort of knew it but as I alway play right over the pickup on my Stingrays I had kind of forgotten!

EQ more than anything - I've had all sorts of pedals over the years, but to be brutally honest the tone knobs on my amp make a much bigger useful difference than anything else. A good compressor is probably second, but I find I have to tweak the EQ every single time I play, even using the same rig in the same room EQ just seems to matter!

Played through these two Trace Cabs on Sunday (2103x & 1153) - I only ever move them about two feet to the right to get them out of the way when we finish playing though. Sound awesome especially with the Aguillar head.

Oh god - just realised that this thread is actually an elaborate game of traitor with a number of wives/partners masquerading as faithful forum members...

...it's amazing how this thread is becoming a bit like a conversation with my wife!!

Sorry my bad - of course it wasn't new gear, merely a coffee/whisky table! 🙂

...although it would solve the quandry of whether strings, cables, spare parts etc. counted if there was a minimum price threshold - maybe anything under £50 doesn't count?

...so I heard banging and commotion, came downstairs and lo and behold my Trace 4x10 had given birth to a healthy baby 2x10, a £40 lovechild from Facebook marketplace - I didn't even know she was pregnant and now have to find room for another cab to feed! I'm guessing blaming my 4x10s infidelity isn't an excuse to still be in this?

Oops, 2x10 also came up for £40 on facebook yesterday, right off my commute home... just need to come up with a suitable excuse for the gear abstinence thread... but I didn't know my 4x10 was even expecting a baby?

Seems someone from the Trace Elliot Facebook group was less worried about the drive:

The logistics are currently beyond me unfortunately, alongside probably needing to buy 4x new KT88 tubes for it (at close to £200 again).

If anyone is in the backend of Wales - 8 hour return drive for me!!

Enjoyed the following this morning: Lion and the Lamb Trust in God Oceans (Where Feet May Fail) into chorus of Everlasting God Greater than it All ..and paired the mini Aguillar head with the two TE (name badges removed) cabs which gave me a satisfying growl. Pretty much just used the compressor + blue channel on the Genzler for both fretless (first two songs) and fretted (last three). Someone did, however, come up to me afterwards and ask why on earth a bass player needed so many pedals - it is true four went unused today!