Merton

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='377720' date='Jan 12 2009, 02:18 PM']I've played through a V Type and it was a world apart from my old Trace.[/quote] Huzzah, indeedy! Very different beasties. Beginning to get all misty eyed about mine now, hmmm.....

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='377707' date='Jan 12 2009, 02:03 PM']You could do a lot worse than the V Type. If you want an Ashdown how about [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=27600&hl=ashdown+combo"]this[/url]? you could sell the 15 on if you didn't need it.[/quote] Good call on the Ashdown and cheers for the +1 on the V-Type Even you'd like it I think, it's nothing like the SS 7-band head you had

[quote name='wotnwhy' post='376936' date='Jan 11 2009, 05:40 PM']for the last few months i've been without a propper bass rig. and i've now finally got one together: powerfull, punchy, deep, lightweight and CHEAP! i can carry the whole setup in 1 go, and rig cost under £600 ^_^ [/quote] Love it! Once I've finished building my 1x15 cab I can join you on these hallowed pages with LH500 porn, until then, it just doesn't feel right

Shameless plug time, have a look [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=34809"]here[/url]. Trace Elliot V-Type 1x15 combo, 250W, very loud and pokey (keeps up with 2 Marshall 4x12s) and a great rock/blues sound 2nd hand is always a winner when buying on a budget.

This is really annoying, just as I manage to get a BC posse together our singer has decided he doesn't want to do the gig Our female singer is on maternity leave and her dep isn't free. So our male singer says "let's do it as a 4 piece instead!" then on Sat decides actually, no he doesn't want to. I've been trying to persuade him otherwise but so far failed - haven't managed to contact the CN yet anyway so might use them as leverage to make sure we do play... Will keep you all posted, sorry for messing you around. Not a happy bunny.

Well done Ashdown! Sounds simliar ot the experience I had with Trace Elliot back when I was a spotty 16yr old and had a weird issue with my amp and compressor pedal. Good service is so easy to do it's nice to hear of companies actually going above and beyond

[quote name='johnnylager' post='377367' date='Jan 12 2009, 08:18 AM'][url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=13344"]These[/url]? Or [url="http://www.barefacedbass.com/"]these[/url]? [/quote] Hell yes

Cheers for that John, good to hear another opinion! Did you find it at all hissy? Half wondering whether that's been made worse by the Raytheon valve...

Internal dimensions of the speaker cab part of the combo: HxWxD 0.524 x 0.504 x 0.260m Tuned to 45.6Hz SPL plot with a 350W input signal: [attachment=18507:Vtype.jpg] Bear in mind the impedance does this tho: [attachment=18508:Vtype_imp.jpg] So the power will fluctuate: [attachment=18509:Vtype_max_power.jpg] Should really stick the 2nd and 3rd of these on the same x-axis to show how/why they affect each other...

[quote name='51m0n' post='376591' date='Jan 11 2009, 07:56 AM']Cant wait to hear this with the new Xover Alex, I think it'll be staggeringly good for its weight.[/quote] +1. It's astonishingly good already so I can't wait to hear the next iteration

[quote name='kennyrodg' post='376849' date='Jan 11 2009, 03:37 PM']Thanks Merton, now then,that leads me to ask in what cab :ph34r:[/quote] In a very small one! I'll post the freq response and cab dimensions in a bit... This is the combo:

[quote name='kennyrodg' post='376725' date='Jan 11 2009, 12:43 PM']Please forgive my ignorance but what speaker is the V type,thanks.[/quote] I'll forgive you It's an Eminence Beta 15, not the original driver I guess but it sounds good

[quote name='alexclaber' post='376718' date='Jan 11 2009, 12:31 PM']I've posted a couple of useful plots over in the build thread so you can see how the new crossover will change the sound. Regarding the LH500 not tending to overdrive (which is common to all the Fender/Alembic variants) have you considered trying a clean boost pedal in front of the amp? Alex[/quote] Yeah, I spotted those Alex, think it'll make a noticeable difference As for the overdrive, that's not really a criticism or something I particularly want, just something that was part of the overall observations to highlight the points you have been making throughout this thread that it's not design for that sort of sound!

[quote name='silverfoxnik' post='376477' date='Jan 10 2009, 09:44 PM']Apart from you now being in Alex's probably ever growing queue of customers, has the test made you rethink selling the V-Type?[/quote] Er, yes, a bit...

[b]So, the verdict? Well, first the tests:[/b] 1. V-Type into its internal speaker 2. Hartke LH500 into V-Type's speaker 3. V-Type into the Big One 4. LH500 into the Big One 5. V-Type pre into LH500 power into the V-Type speaker 6. V-Type pre into LH500 power into the Big One 7. LH500 pre into V-Type power into V-Type speaker 8. LH500 pre into V-Type power into the Big One Fun! Test basses were my Status Groove fretless and Dom's Ibanez Blazer. A few points to make as well: 1. The V-Type fx loop is pre-EQ, while the LH500 is post EQ, so tests 7 and 8 were a bit dumb as both tonestacks affected the sound. 2. The V-Type has two Sovtek valves, the LH500 one Raytheon. [b]Observations on the amps:[/b] The V-Type has a lot more "balls", seems to have a fatter bottom end and less glassy tops. Designed to be overdriven, it has more of an old-school vibe. The LH500 in comparison was almost impossible to overdrive, a very slight break up occurred if we dug in lots but nowhere near the V-Type clipping. The LH500 has far glassier, harsher highs and a tighter but less present bottom end. The volume control had to be pushed to 6 to get it to produce the same perceived volume as the V-Type with the volume on 1. Overall Dom and I agreed the V-Type has more bass thump and is less "hifi" than the LH500 (not that you can really call the LH500 hifi vs anything more sophisticated ). The LH500 had a helluva lot more hiss, the V-Type was virtually silent in comparison. The V-Type sounded truly thunderous with the tone controls on 5; the LH500 can create those thunderous tones but with a lot more knob twiddling. As an example, with the V-Type controls on 5, the LH500 had to have the bass cranked to 7, the mid on 4 and the treble on 2-3. Or vice versa, with the LH500 tone controls all on 5. to get the same tone from the V-Type, the bass was on 3, the middle and treble on 8. [b]The cabs:[/b] Obviously the V-Type cab is a 15" in a tiny enclosure. If my laptop hadn't got a virus I'd be able to post a plot of its frequency response - you'll have to wait for that! It has a massive peak at ~110Hz IIRC which leds itself to giving a huge bass tone without forcing the cone out of its frame or destroying walls. It's a nice warm but punchy tone which suits the amps very well. The Big One is a different beast altogether. This has the first iteration of the crossover so there's still a peak around 1kHz apparently but other than that it's about as flat as a flat thing. The mid driver really highlighted the LH500's hiss and treble response, almost making us feel the tone was lightweight in comparison to the V-Type. If I had a V-Type preamp and a 1000W power amp the Big One would be my choice of cab. With the LH500's harsher top end I was less keen on the mid driver; taking the treble control down to around 3 tames those highs though. I suspect the mid driver would come into its own when up against a drummer and 2 Marshall 4x12s - that'll be this time next week then The 15" driver in the Big One is a joy to behold. It just carries on giving more and more, never once getting close to giving up. To be fair, we weren't exactly doing gig-level tests as my neighbours would've got mighty angry, but the amps were certainly getting a reasonable rehearsal-level workout. [b]Conclusions[/b] The LH500 isn't *that* far off the V-Type in tone, but it does seem to lack some low-end thump and authority. The more prominent top end and added hiss makes the amp seem more lightweight, plus the volume control taper being wildly different from the Trace's - it sdoesn't seem to take off until after 5, something which Peter had already noticed a few pages back. Of course the Trace's volume control means I'm getting 100% of its power by about 3 or 4, so it seems louder than it actually is... The Big One is simply stunning. I can imagine once the redesigned crossover is in then the mid driver will sit nicer for me; the 15" driver is just fan-bloody-tastic. I can't wait to try this LOUD

[quote name='silverfoxnik' post='375969' date='Jan 10 2009, 10:28 AM'] So how does it sound then Mert?[/quote] Awesome. Full review a bit later - had a great afternoon A/Bing the V-Type and LH500 with Dom (cwbass) and will give a full report when I'm not using Nic's in-cred-ib-llllll-y slooooooooooooooooooooow laptop

[quote name='johnnylager' post='375726' date='Jan 9 2009, 10:40 PM']That amp would look even nicer with an extra knob [/quote] The extra knob is standing in front of it playing a Status bass

Fuzzy pic of my LH500 atop the bareface[b]dB[/b]ass Big One:

[quote name='ahpook' post='375668' date='Jan 9 2009, 09:41 PM']what was bad about playing there ?[/quote] It was cold, no-one came, I played thru a sh*t amp, the onstage sound was pony, we didn't get a soundcheck coz the other bands took the piss.......

When I played there almost a year ago it was a fooking crap 60W Behringer combo

[quote name='Boneless' post='375630' date='Jan 9 2009, 08:47 PM']EDIT: Dual Parallel mode, I think, is a bi-amped mode where you can decide what frequencies to amplify over two different speakers. For example, all frequencies above 300Hz amplified by a 2x10" and all frequencies below by a 1x15". Not sure, though. With only one cabinet, you don't need this feature.[/quote] Nope. The Hartke LH1000 has 2 power amps. Dual parallel mode means you use both as separate power amps with lower power output and impedance. Bridged mode sticks one on the end of the other, giving one higher-powered output at double the impedance. EDIT for clarity!

Chief Alex: [attachment=18408:DSC00224.JPG] The Big One in the Focus: [attachment=18409:DSC00225.JPG]

[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='375393' date='Jan 9 2009, 04:57 PM']Is Rockbass to Warwick what Squier is to Fender?[/quote] Yep