Conan

[quote name='dave_bass5' timestamp='1383337544' post='2263441'] The VM feels lighter, and i do equate that to cheapness,[/quote] Hmmm... you might want to avoid a Mike Lull bass then... Most of them are under 8lbs! They should be [b][i]really[/i][/b] cheap!

Anyone coming along this saturday then?

[quote name='Conan' timestamp='1384346995' post='2275479'] Are you busy on saturday evening? [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/221974-the-sour-dogs-bridge-hotel-newcastle-16-november/"]http://basschat.co.u...le-16-november/[/url] [/quote] The "leader" of my band is the lead guitarist/songwriter. Even though he originally recorded his material with him playing all of the instruments, he really values the input of the bassist (me) and the drummer. In many cases, we have changed the structure of the songs (for the better, in the opinions of us all) to suit the individual styles of the musicians. I wouldn't say it was a true "democracy" as such, but it is very co-operative and works extremely well in this scenario. His material is (IMO) very good and has real potential. However, the fact that all the band members have full-time day jobs mean that the potential is unlikely to ever be realised. Such is life. There is hope!

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1384263063' post='2274570'] The North East is flooded with crap covers bands. We do however seem to be lacking something in terms of new undiscovered original bands up here.[/quote] Are you busy on saturday evening? [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/221974-the-sour-dogs-bridge-hotel-newcastle-16-november/"]http://basschat.co.uk/topic/221974-the-sour-dogs-bridge-hotel-newcastle-16-november/[/url]

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1384266310' post='2274625'] Bergs have a certain class about their tone though... [/quote] I'm sure you're right... but I just can't help wondering if a lot of that is due to the general quality of the fit and finish? A classy package that delivers a "classy" tone? In the same way that some people refer to a certain "rawness" in the tone of a lot of BareFaced cabs, maybe?

Got my e-mail too

[quote name='Musicman20' timestamp='1384261360' post='2274535'] The Berg CN is voiced with quite a forward mid tone, which does make everything seem louder. [/quote] Is that deliberate, or is the cab just less mid-scooped than other cabs (including other Bergs)?

[quote name='BassBunny' timestamp='1384175789' post='2273519'] If they get all they have asked for, result, if not some of us could be disappointed.[/quote] Oh bugger - don't say that! I've already sold my Compact and have a gig on Saturday...

It makes much more sense doing it this way than the other way - using a lightweight head and a big, heavy, old-school cab! As RandonBass said, many of the modern Neo cabs have high quality drivers that really reveal the sound of your gear - whether it be your bass, effects or amp. So if you like the Trace sound, what better way to hear it! To be honest, even the heaviest amps tend to be a one-handed carry. especially if they have great handles like the Trace amps. It's the cabs that do you in...

My originals band finally get round to playing our THIRD gig (in four years!) [url="http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmk5O67gMWgZM_h12QTByxA"]http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmk5O67gMWgZM_h12QTByxA[/url] Would be great to see any off-duty Basschatters there.

[quote name='Pinball' timestamp='1384022022' post='2272070'] Your looking very dastardly in that profile pic...never noticed that until now [/quote] Drat, and double drat!!

[quote name='Pinball' timestamp='1384014749' post='2271939'] Got one thanks [/quote]

[quote name='Jamesemt' timestamp='1382559066' post='2253760']Best sounding previous setup was Genz Benz Shuttle 312 with a 2x10 extension cab but I feel I was missing something and would possibly like to try 15s.[/quote] Not sure what you thought you were missing, but if it was bottom end there is no guarantee that 15s will give it. That is more down to the design of the cab, not the diameter of the speaker(s) in it. More bass usually involves a bigger box to house the speaker, which also makes it heavier - making your goal of a light cab even more difficult to achieve! Sorry to be the bearer of bad news...

[quote name='Jamesemt' timestamp='1382559066' post='2253760'] I've a dodgy back so Peavey stuff is out. [/quote] [quote name='thunderider' timestamp='1384004712' post='2271779']ebay.....80s peaveys...very cheap very loud...[/quote] In terms of "bang for your buck", amp-wise- a second-hand Hartke LH500 would fit the bill perfectly. Even new they are around £250 Very loud but also very clear. Getting a loud cab that is light? That is a real problem. What do you call "light"? Neodymium drivers do not come cheap (although some are cheaper than others). As Hamfist said, try to sell some of your other gear (or maybe look for trades - your bass for someone else's neo cab) and get your budget up closer to £400 for a cab. That will (almost) bring you into used Barefaced territory (if you are lucky!). Or if GAK have any of those 212s left (at £379). But you don't have a lot of options at your price point - not if you genuinely want a cab that is loud but light.

[quote name='gjones' timestamp='1383931639' post='2271021'] I'm interested in your reasons for replacing your compact with a GB neo 212 (other than the fact that their going cheap at the moment)? I hear great things about compacts. [/quote] To be honest, the main reason is the demon GAS (helped by the excellent offer at GAK). I love the Compact but just fancy a change. It is going to a good home! I was used to a BF Vintage, but traded it for a Compact as I was finding the size (not the weight) of the Vintage a bit much for what I was doing. I guess I considered the Compact a bit of a downward trade as I [b][i]really[/i][/b] liked the Vintage. Not that the Compact is in any way substandard (it isn't!) but I kind of missed the larger size of the Vintage. Silly, I know. At some point in the future I may well get another BF cab as I think they are great. But the grass always seems greener on the other side doesn't it? Sometimes, after playing the same gear for a while, I just fancy a change (I think I already said that!). I may well regret it, but such is life.

I used to use mine just on the odd track as an effect. But now I'm finding that I like the sound so much that I pretty much leave it on all the time! I don't use much "drive" on it, and yes, it does scoop the mids a bit - but it just adds a lovely smooth zinginess which I like. Great unit and not as flimsy as some people say. Although it depends on what you are used to I suppose. For around £20 (the price of a modest set of strings) you just can't go wrong. Which reminds me, I need to change the battery before tomorrow's rehearsal!

[quote name='EliasMooseblaster' timestamp='1383928096' post='2270967'] Well, I have to say, Vapor Trails is much better. And I'm listening to the original release because I can't find the remixed version in full on Youtube! But the songs are clearly better, even if the mix is dubious. [/quote] Get the new one. Seriously! Buy it on Amazon for sick squid and it is instantly available on your SoundCloud player! It is SO much better than the original...

[quote name='EliasMooseblaster' timestamp='1383841407' post='2269874'] Opinion duly reassessed. I might continue the experiment tomorrow and give Test For Echo a shot. [/quote] Have you tried the new remixed Vapor Trails? I used to really struggle with that album, and now it is one of my favourites! Some really great melodies on there, and now you can actually[i][b] hear [/b][/i]them thanks to the new mix!