Conan

[quote name='mcnach' timestamp='1461759379' post='3037367'] I think it's just a reaction to the -often real- attraction that some people seem to have for threads with the BF name on them just to criticise or make fun. [/quote] Yes - or people who think that it is their prerogative to post in order to restore some sort of "balance" to the argument. As if too much praise for a product cannot be allowed?! So they are actually sticking their oar in for our benefit! I like Barefaced cabs (or at least, the ones that I have tried and/or owned). I make no secret of that fact. However, I don't think they are perfect. The fact that the range keeps expanding and revising shows that even Alex Claber shares the view that perfection has not yet been achieved. Unlike some people on here though, he listens to feedback and responds to it. I was always dubious about Bergantino products. Probably because I don't like it when people shout from the rooftops that "such and such a product" is the best. Anyway, I bought a pair of HS210s and used them for a while. They were good. Very good even... but in the end I sold them because I found them too heavy and bulky for my needs. Also, although the tone was lovely, I found the dispersion average. I went back to a Barefaced Compact (and a TKS H115) because they are my favourite cabs as they (for me) offer the best compromises in volume, tone, size and mass. I love them both equally, but for different reasons. Other people will reach other conclusions for their own reasons. On the other hand, I owned a Barefaced Big One that, while in some ways being outstanding, caused problems due to its incompatibility with certain amps (including the one that I just happened to be using at the time!). Again, no manufacturer is perfect in every situation! I guess what I am saying is "horses for courses" and that variety is the spice of life. Or something like that...

Oh FFS!! To the OP - Please just buy the cab. Any cab... just put us out of this state of misery!!!

Oh I see!

[quote name='EliasMooseblaster' timestamp='1461683062' post='3036715'] Would I be right to conclude, therefore, that this mistake wouldn't harm my amps or cab, but running the 2ohm output into a 4ohm cab might have done? [/quote] I don't think amps have outputs with different impedances, do they? My understanding is that the output from the amp is in Volts, and that depending on the impedance presented by the speaker cab, that voltage creates a certain amount of movement in the speaker that we perceive as sound. More voltage = more sound. The socket on the back of the amp indicates the minimum (or even recommended) impedance of any cab connected to it... I believe all of the above to be true. That doesn't mean that it is, of course!

[quote name='Merton' timestamp='1461681810' post='3036701'] You see where I'm going with this...? [/quote] Er... no

[quote name='spencer.b' timestamp='1461622832' post='3036313'] Yeah I'm after loudness Thinking of a aguilar db212 but maybe the 4ohm is a better idea IF I can find one? [/quote] The main disadvantage of a 4 ohm cab is that if you find yourself requiring more volume (or even needing more height, so that your cab is more audible to you yourself), you can only add another cab if your amp can safely run down to 2 ohms. Not that many do. The Aggie may well be a good solution, but an 8 ohm version will not be noticeably quieter and still gives the option of adding a second cab if you need/want it. I'd go for the 8 ohm version

As usual, a Barefaced-based thread degenerates into a hair-splitting exercise! Buy the bloody cab - what could possibly go wrong?

[quote name='stevie' timestamp='1461663040' post='3036481'] While all mail order companies are legally bound to offer 14-day returns, 30-day returns policies are not exactly uncommon. Gear for Music (who will even cover the cost of return carriage if you notify them within 7 days), Thomann, Maplin, Argos, etc. Bax even have a 60-day trial period. [/quote] Yes, but they are all large retailers with huge stocks of products from many manufacturers. It's not quite the same as a [b][i]manufacturer[/i][/b] offering a trial period. Not something I can see Aguilar, GK, Fender, Marshall [i]et al[/i] providing,

Nice handles!

[quote name='machinehead' timestamp='1461175846' post='3032224']I used to use my original BF Compact at 8 ohms/ 300 watts from a Little Mark II and that was LOUD too. [/quote] This ^ [quote name='Phil Starr' timestamp='1461220286' post='3032491'] Stop worrying about impedance. Because of the way we perceive sound the extra 200W only give you a barely noticeable increase in sound level. Choose on the basis of sound and practicality [/quote] And this ^

[quote name='Machines' timestamp='1461050849' post='3030874'] My Dad has a Fender Stevie Ray Vaughan Artist Stratocaster (about £1600) but he has never listened to any SRV. He just liked the way it looked and sounds. [/quote] On a similar note, my son has a Fender "Blackie" Strat - which is an Eric Clapton sig. He doesn't like Eric Clapton, but bought the guitar because of it's looks, playability and tone... I am very proud of him!

[quote name='2elliot' timestamp='1461015865' post='3030760'] That's interesting. I've not seen one of those before. Is it 2 x 12? How tall is it? Cheers [/quote] [quote name='AndrewJordan' timestamp='1461016098' post='3030763'] 2 x 15 by the looks? [/quote] I can't remember the exact measurements, but yes it is a 2x15 and is "quite tall" Taller than a 4x10, but not as tall as two... [url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/86815-barefaced-vintage/"]http://basschat.co.u...efaced-vintage/[/url] 24" apparently They were made for Barefaced users who also used valve amps, but as it turned out very few people actually used valve heads with them (I know I didn't!) so they were discontinued and/or morphed into the Super Fifteen, which is not as wide... Outstanding cabs - and very light (a 2x15 that is a manageable one handed lift?!?!). I only sold mine because I wasn't gigging very often and it was a bit wide and awkward for simply moving in and out of the house and the twisty stairs at the rehearsal room... I'd have it back in a second! They do occasionally come up for sale on here ([url="http://basschat.co.uk/topic/228811-sold-pending-barefaced-vintage-2x15-silver-cloth/page__p__2362329__hl__barefaced%20vintage__fromsearch__1#entry2362329"]http://basschat.co.u..._1#entry2362329[/url]) but there aren't that many about and most people who own them, love them!

Try to track down a used Barefaced Vintage? http://basschat.co.uk/topic/191022-used-a-barefaced-vintage-last-night/

Herbie Flowers? My ears tell me that on the early Tom Petty stuff, Ron Blair probably used flats on his Jazz too... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO2-4YAV8sM

[quote name='blue' timestamp='1460956807' post='3030046'] Talented guy, but not relevant to me. I'm restricted to the greats from my generation. McCartney Joco, Prestia, Graham, Chuck Rainy, Weeks etc.. Blue [/quote] He's a bass player. You're a bass player. In what way is he not relevant? All of us can learn something from anyone else. Open your ears and open your mind dude!

[quote name='Billy Apple' timestamp='1460959829' post='3030053'] Buy through the Basschat market place from a seller with a good feedback history and you'll not go wrong. [/quote] Exactly! And even if you don't quite bond with the bass you can usually sell it again for what you paid. It's almost like a library!

[quote name='KK Jale' timestamp='1460904013' post='3029647'] Great quote, although I believe that was JJ Burnell... I remember the original interview. He may have nicked it from Dee Dee, though. [/quote] OT.... but I just thought it was really cool that KK was quoting JJ and Dee Dee.... Oh and by the way, The Geddy Lee sig is still just about the best J bass I have played and/or owned. I have owned two of them and in both cases regretted having to sell them. I will get another when finances allow. The neck just suits me perfectly

Blleeeaaarrrggghhhh! One of the youtube comments hit the nit on the head: "Sounds like a bagpipe raping a cat". Obviously not a Scot, otherwise he would have know that that the singular term "bagpipe" is incorrect...

I have a Markbass LM2. I certainly wouldn't describe it as sterile - so it's not a feature of the whole range, but maybe just the F500.

[quote name='anDy LAKIN' timestamp='1460667108' post='3027802'] wow what a coincidence all your surnames match your instruments, how apt [/quote] Our paths in life were pre-ordained. Why fight it?

[quote name='SICbass' timestamp='1460564502' post='3026878'] Good song. Somebody shoot (or cut one foot off) the drummer. [/quote] Fair point - he does overplay a bit.... but then again it is a prog rock/metal band!

[quote name='Marty Forrer' timestamp='1460500232' post='3026382'] One10 cabs..... A big increase in heft and bottom. [/quote] Who'd a thunk it?!?!?