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For what it's worth TG, I think the neck is painted. If you zoom in on the photo, it looks red.

Really, where is GremlinAndy? He'd put us all to shame here!

Yeah, if you can get to try one out, I would. It might not be perfect for you, for the reasons you stated, but it might just surprise you. And on the size thing - if you were considering a DL4 at one point, then the M9 has a very similar footprint. And if it has way more than you'll use, just don't use it There's more than enough delay/reverb in that thing to justify the space it takes up IMO.

I use on as the expression pedal, but the other is only ever used as a volume pedal. It helps keep the tuner out of the way nice and tidy like, and I also adjust my volume on the fly using it quite a lot. But even if I wanted to use the Volume Pedal effect on the M9, I wouldn't want to waste effectively 2 of those 6 precious effects slots on a volume pedal. Better just to have it in line before the M9! Does a better job. A global volume pedal input on the M9/13 would be neat, but I know there isn't room for it in the M9 - I get the impression it's already as jam-packed and small as they can make it realistically.

[quote name='BigBassBob' post='713245' date='Jan 14 2010, 11:31 PM']Actually, the Noisebox does produce the noise itself... whatever you run into it, it will take the notes it can and reproduce what you play with its own sound, however, the overall sound it produces varies greatly depending on your input signal and how the controls are set.[/quote] So wait... does it produce the noise itself, or does it take that you play and reproduce it? I'm not quite clear what you're saying. All the videos and clips I've seen/heard seem to suggest it is just a squealy, synthy, glitchy fuzz pedal with a neat frequency sweep knob - not something which can be used as an audio source itself.

[quote name='umph' post='713226' date='Jan 14 2010, 11:20 PM']get a memory toy and let me put a feedback loop in it, that has a few knobs so should make some awesome sounds![/quote] That's quite tempting actually. They're not even all that expensive new.

I was lusting after the noisebox for a while actually, and while it looks like fun, it definitely seems like it will effect your signal and make what you play sound a little odd, rather than actually generate weird noise itself. That's really what I'm looking for.

I'm really taken by the FX Doctor Cease Transmission actually. But his customer service rep is so shocking that I'm not entirely sure whether it's worth it!

Yeah, it should be pretty useful! I've found that with downsizing to a much smaller pedalboard, I really had to think through all my pedal placements and ways to turn everything on a lot more than before. There's no way I would have had space to fit three separate pedals in that gap, and it allows me to use that space above the M9 for the Hyperpak, where it isn't convenient to turn things on and off. Not the cheapest or simplest option, but I think it's a neat solution. Tonight's the first time I'll get to try it out though. I've had the pedal ages, but the snow's stopped us getting to practices and stuff for the last week or so. [quote name='cm261' post='712523' date='Jan 14 2010, 01:26 PM']What was the damage, if you don't mind my asking?[/quote] PM'd

Thought about the DL4? Or maybe even the M9. Stereo in/out, can be set with delay trails, or without and you could set up so much variation and so many combinations of reverb/delay/bit of modulation on the M9. Might be worth a shout.

Not the best image - my phone's getting quite old now D: Anyway... X2 wireless -> Ernie Ball volume pedal with Korg DT-10 (always on) in tuner out -> SFX custom pedal with Catalinbread Hyperpak in the FX loop -> Line 6 M9 with Ernie Ball expression pedal-> Okko FX Coca Comp compressor -> AMP The SFX box has a clean boost, EQ pedal and FX loop all in one space. I got Max to build it for me so it would go right in that gap between the M9 and the VP Jr.

Just rewiring what was supposed to be my final pedalboard setup for a LONG time at the moment. But you know how pedalboard ideas evolve :/ Now I've got 3 more pedals before it's finished!

I'll check the LoTechNoFiBot out I considered a Subdecay Noisebox, but I'm not sure it's 'noise' enough for me. I hear what you're saying about the one trick pony thisnameistaken. I'm not throwing up too many successful results yet, but I'm sure there must be something perfect and really obscure out there! It doesn't need to do massive amounts of things, but the ability to make 3/4 nice unique sounds from it through various parameters would be really nice

Infact, for a bit of inspiration, something like this would be ace: [url="http://www.alien-devices.com/alienosc.html"]http://www.alien-devices.com/alienosc.html[/url] It is actually an isntrument in itself, but is pedal sized. So it would still fit on a pedalboard! Might be worth looking into these kind of things more - off to find noise music forums I think! Another one on the same theme, but nowhere near as fun sounding: [url="http://www.fxdoctor.com/site/ceasetransmission.html"]http://www.fxdoctor.com/site/ceasetransmission.html[/url]

I wouldn't normally ask people 'what pedal' anymore. I'm pretty good at doing my own reearch into stuff. But I've found that I have enough space on my board pretty much EXACTLY for one more pedal. It seems wrong not to fill it :/ And I don't have much experience in the realm of single noise pedals. I've got most of my bases covered already. I've got a distortion I like, my amp overdrives just fine, I have a nice compressor, a perfectly good tuner, and my M9 covers just about anything else practical. I use it for reverb, delay, looping, synth, and pitch shifting duties. I really have very little interest in modulation, and even if I ever have cause to use it, the M9 has bucketloads of it. So what do you get the man that has everything? I really want a ridiculously stupid noise pedal. I used to have a massive pedalboard, and about half of it was probably given over to pedals that did nothing but make noise. Weird filters, glitching, self oscillation and frequency/pitch sweeps, lo-fi distortion... All that stuff. But I really have nothing like that now. I have a scene set up on my M9 which is full of noise effects, but it's a bit inconvenient. It'd be nice to have a stompbox that is capable of just being totally bizarre as well. So any suggestions? The only limits are that it must not be any bigger than an MXR stompbox. That's literally all I have room for. And it'd be nice if it could generate its own noise, rather than rely on me constantly having to make 'musical' input - I want a real knob-twiddler.

I'd consider buying one just to muck about with it. You're guaranteed to make the money back when you sell it. Same with a Deep Impact.

Oh, no, mine was fine. But I've seen countless Whammys that have just fallen apart.

lolwut? The Whammy IV is volatile as owt. Look at it funny, and it'll break. That treadle isn't strong. Or get an M9/M13, and set the Pitch Glide to whatever settings you want If Line 6 released that as a pedal, it would be a bonafide Whammy killer. If they built it right.

Stumbled across this earlier. Don't know if people have seen it before. It isn't exhaustive, but it's quite neat for a little while. www.pedalboardplanner.com

FWIW, I'm selling a QSC PLX1804. It's a bit shallower and lighter than some of the other PLX models. It's here if you're interested: [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=67997&hl=qsc"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=67997&hl=qsc[/url]

Check out Tundra 4 and Iambic 9 Poetry - my two favourite Squarepusher tracks, yet completely different.

I've heard from a vocal coach that they're not even good for your voice D: I can't vouch for the validity of it either way

don't eat vocalzone. they smell of bad weed and taste really really gross. they make me wretch.

The 'bigger' names like Rotosound, EB, D'addario etc. Saying that, a couple of them do something which can be just about substituted for a high F, but I don't like the feel of them (I'd rather pay full whack for strings I like than get discounted ones I don't). FWIW, I use Overwater strings at the moment. I think I need to look around.