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[quote name='Cuzzie' timestamp='1496331704' post='3310620'] Depends on what kind of jazz sound you want? The neck pup on the Jazz gets close to a P sound and the tone roll off is very responsive. The Jazz sound is lovely. A TT Jazz will give you this with a more modern twist as the bridge pup is closer to the neck, again delano's more hifi, sandberg or Haussel pups more warm and vintage. The TSBS is a string through and the pups are slightly in between, not a huge difference IMO, and I don't like the yellow. MarloweDK has a slimmer neck than other TT's, different ageing pattern to the body and the bridge pup is closer to the bridge giving it a more 70s Barky feel when dialled in. The way to see a VM is like a P bass but with more clarity for pushing through in a live setting, you may not get the satisfaction you want from the M bucker alone. Fully passive or active and passive is purely your choice. I have a lot of pre-amp pedal push so purely passive is good for me. To me they do some of the best ageing, if you like that. As Cilla would say, the decision is yours... [/quote] My Cali II TT was the passive version with V/B/T and Sandberg pickups. Although very nice sounding I've swapped the electronics for some Hot Rod JB-74s and a Kiogon V/V/T harness. Sounds immense and really nice in the mix. Mandatory pic: [sharedmedia=core:attachments:236844] Plus a couple of the VS (custom colour Dakota Red): [sharedmedia=core:attachments:246118] [sharedmedia=core:attachments:246117]

[quote name='mr zed' timestamp='1496340951' post='3310736'] Oohh....well played sir! I like that explanation. Unfortunately I was adding tension for the whole of the first verse! [/quote] That is quite a lot of tension in all honesty

[quote name='mr zed' timestamp='1496163331' post='3309268'] Started a song at a gig last weekend in the wrong key. This is a song we've been playing for ages and it starts on an F sharp. Started it in F. What a knob! [/quote] Just adding a bit of tension to the chord before resolving it, therefore surely intentional?

TT4 and VS4 owner. Pretty bloody nice, the pair of them.

[quote name='bazztard' timestamp='1496217328' post='3309559'] ta, they changed bassists a bit. And guitarists, even Tony Iommi was a member long enough to appear on the Stones Rock n Roll Circus dvd [/quote] I think Mr Anderson can be 'challenging' to work with...

[quote name='bazztard' timestamp='1496202520' post='3309494'] Tull have had some great bassists whoever it was on Living in The Past gets my vote [/quote] I think that would be Glenn Cornick from (failing) memory. Also a great and sensitive player.

Just landed from Sandberg, Dakota Red VS4. [attachment=246117:VS-4 Custom 01 LR.jpg] [attachment=246118:VS-4 Custom 02 LR.jpg]

[quote name='project_c' timestamp='1495614055' post='3305220'] I think you're right about looking for a non-pristine one. Here's a pic of the one I'm talking about, whilst it's not pristine it's definitely all original, but there's discolouring on the wood, chips on the headstock and body, hairline cracks in the binding, and the pickguard is pretty warped. The neck is straight enough but the action definitely needs to come down a bit, and I couldn't really gauge the state of the saddles and bridge because of the cover. But as it is all original, and sat in a posh shop, it has an almost 3K price tag which I can't justify. However if these mid 70's jazzes really sound this good, I think it would make more sense to look for a refinished one instead, because it seems like a refin reduces the price by almost half. Someone suggested that the the tone I'm after is a result of the 70's electronics as well as the pickup configuration, and they said that a lot of 70's jazzes don't have the typical mid scoop with both volumes up full, they're really focussed on the mid-range. I don't know if this is true or not but I'm going to try a few 70s jazzes and see if that characteristic is there in all of them. If it's not then this bass is a one off. [/quote] I suppose it also depends on your resale policy. My '66 is going nowhere (barring massively unforeseen and serious circumstances). When I stop playing the kids can decide what they want to do with it. Although post CBS Leo & crew were still making the basses at this point so I think it will have risen in value by then but that was never the prime motive for buying the bass. The neck on the bass is superb, arrow straight and no dead spots I can find, nice and light too. exceeded all my expectations A couple of pics for you: [attachment=245979:_MG_0002.JPG] [attachment=245980:_MG_0026.JPG]

[quote name='project_c' timestamp='1495496887' post='3304276'] Thanks for the replies. So let's say I want to get as close to that tone as humanly possible, but without spending 3 grand on a bass that's too valuable to leave the house. [/quote] I've taken to gigging my '66 Precision. I purposefully went looking for a non-pristine item as I felt that having been played a lot it would hopefully/probably be a good'un. As such I feel it needs to be played (as it clearly has been all its life).

Tapered strings available too if bridge is an issue, not sure where the taper sits in relation to the nut though.

And there's me thinking it was all in the fingers (I'm a massive fan of Jazz type basses for the avoidance of doubt)

Do we know roughly when stuff might be coming back?

I have the P Retro in an ACG bass, the deep boost (frequency selectable) and tone controls are your friend here. I find it very easy to adjust to get pretty much what I want. Alternatively you can set the control to mid boost and add the deep boost too. Which for what you describe may be the better option.

[quote name='LITTLEWING' timestamp='1495308251' post='3302916'] Just picked up a rather nice used OLP 4 string and after a quick set up plays very nicely. What I can't work out is what EBMM say on their site - apparently their string to pickup distance is 4.8mm. Seems a bit far away to me unless that type of pup has a very strong magnetic pull. I've not actually had a bass with this type of pup until now so advice would be appreciated. [/quote] In the same 'budget Stingray' category I have just got myself an SBMM SB14 which will hopefully land this week.