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That big roll of Marshall covering and two big tins of Evostik make more sense now.🙂 I'm really looking forward to seeing this tolex-covered version.

Yes, excellent work Jonannes. The grille material is a great choice for the natural wood finish – it's fencing panel if I'm not mistaken. To make a picture-frame grille, use some pine batten - width between 9 and 11mm and depth 18-21mm. As far as positioning the cab is concerned, it's been designed to be flat response on the ground. If you raise it up, like in your photo, you'll lose some bottom end, which you could also interpret as having too much top end. Don't worry about not being able to hear yourself. The horn directs the mids and highs that get lost in traditional cabs towards the player's ears. The other benefit of having a proper compression driver/CD horn crossing low down is that the mids and highs that are a vital part of the sound of the bass reach the audience properly. In traditional bass cabs, these frequencies get lost the further back you go. Which leads to the muffled, indistinct bass tone we've all heard a thousand times.

For builders who haven't got round to fitting the grille yet, and others who are cutting their own wood, the four corner standoffs are triangular in shape, made from 21 (or 20mm) x 30mm softwood batten. The height is 21mm and the outside dimensions of the triangles are 30mm x 30mm. You simply glue them into the corners and paint them the same colour as the baffle. You can also cut two rectangular pieces 30mm x 12mm from the batten and glue them to the sides of the cab. Once you've painted them, stick some of the thin foam strip onto them that you used under the handle. Builders who had kits from the last batch received these parts along with the 4.8mm x 19mm flange-headed screws and M4 neoprene washers. At a guess, a full picture-frame batten in 20mm softwood weighs close to half a kg. So using the standoffs not only saves time but it also gives you a useful weight saving.

For anyone considering it, the aluminium grille has turned out well. It uses six standoffs in place of the picture-frame batten. Nice work.

Lean Business have some 4-ohm Celestion BL12-200Xs on offer at the moment for £25. It's a very good driver that normally retails at £70. However, they do work best in a ported cab.

I'm a fan of Level 42 and loved this. In fact, I much preferred your vocals to Mark King's. With a showreel like that, you're going to be really busy.

It looks like they're using Sica, Frank. The person on the Talkbass thread claims they are custom designs.

Lots of good, practical advice here. It might be an idea to use the Basschat for sale sections to take a punt on some used gear that you fancy. Try it for a while, maybe sell it on at a small loss later and try something else. I think a lot of people, including me, have gone that route to find out what they need and what sounds good to them. It used to be that you could go to your local music shop to try out a good range of gear, but those shops are a bit few and far between nowadays.

It's not about cars though. Whatever you think of Italian cars, the Italian PA speaker industry is world-leading. This isn't the first time that carbon fibre has been used for speaker cabinets, but the cost isn't usually worth it for most people. I can see some people going for it - cost being relative and all that. I certainly like the look of their heads.

It was 1x12s mainly, with the odd 1x15 and 2x12 thrown in. To emphasise your point, @Lozz196, one of the contestants was a cheap 12+ horn PA cab from Maplin, which cost about £120 and did surprisingly well compared with the rest of the field, which included boxes up to about £1,000. I expect a search for the Essex Bass Bash will bring up the results.

Good idea. There are lots of players gigging with a single 12 (including me) who find that it's plenty loud enough for anything. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll work for you.

It's interesting to see how many builders have decided against having a standard black cabinet. I guess that's one of the benefits of DIY.

In defence of Barefaced, they've put their money where it matters - in the bass driver. It's difficult to get proper specs on the RCF, but from what you can glean, the Barefaced bass driver is in a different league to the RCF one, and should in theory go quite a bit louder. RCF have put their money into the HF driver. Having a 3" coil on the HF driver and a 2.5" coil on the bass driver might make sense for vocals, but not for bass, where a good 1.75" coil is more than enough for HF. However, it's likely that the presence of the good quality compression driver in the RCF is what makes it sound better. By the way, some (by which I mean all) of the power handling figures being quoted here are way off the mark thanks to unfortunate tendency for manufacturers to double their EIA ratings. As for maximum SPL, that's a joke-and-a-half and bears no resemblance to reality. Frequency response? There's another laugh. All of this makes it almost impossible to compare sensibly between makes.

So would I. If I'd paid for the tickets and accommodation that is. What you going to do instead, @police squad? Watch TV?

You mean, especially as the headline acts are so f*cking ancient that they're likely to buy the farm any minute? You'd think the organisers would know that and have a plan B. Shame! That's a bummer, police squad.

That's about the size of it. I'm old enough to have learned the imperial system at school. 20 hundredweights in a ton, 8 stones in a hundredweight, 14 pounds in a stone, 16 ounces in a pound. So in arithetic we had to do stuff like: Add: 3 tons, 7 hundredweights, 4 stones, 3 pounds, 5 ounces and 6 tons, 5 hundredweights, 2 stones 13 pounds, 12 ounces. And that was before calculators. Still, I'm sure the Americans know what they're doing.😀

What are these oz things of which you speak?

Just looked up Ronin2. Aha! I'd no idea about this stuff but it makes more sense now. The overall impression of the video is that you all really know what you're doing and are good at it. I just wanted to say - well done, that's a real professional job all round. I thought you could do with some more upper mids in your bass, but that could just be my preference. Looking forward to seeing what you do next.

I was more impressed with the way your drummer ended the song, but yeah, I didn't even think about whether you were covering the song closely or not. It was just a great version. So, how was the video done? Please give us some insight. The production values are amazing. It's like "something off the tele". How many cameras? Don't tell me it was done on an iPod.

Whoaaahh! Only just seen this. That was freaking awesome!!!

Yes, the idea of small cone drivers has a lot going for it - especially, as Phil says, for bass guitar you don't really need the HF extension that a tweeter gives you. On the matter of tweeters, a lot of players (like @Dan Dare) say they're not keen on them. However, a proper compression driver and horn properly integrated with the woofer is a completely different kettle of fish. It provides more clarity and "attack" without the tizzy harshness of the cheapo tweeters commonly fitted to bass cabs. IMO, of course.

That's certainly the case with loudspeakers, Phil. Which is why when Genzler call their cabinet "revolutionary" I have to smile.

Interesting take on the Dynacord FE-200 from forty years ago.

Reconing is often a good option, but I wouldn't bother reconing that driver personally - it's junk. If you can't repair it as Phil has suggested (which would also be my first move), you now have a good opportunity to fit a decent speaker for not much more than the cost of a recone. For less than half of the price of that Eminence, you could fit a Celestion Pulse 10, which should do the job nicely and save you some weight. If you want to save some more weight, go for the Celestion neo BN10-200X or Faital pro 10PR320, both of which are quite a bit cheaper than the Eminence.

The P Audio E8-200N is a good quality 8-incher that sounds good with bass guitar and handles a fair amount of power. It's also light and relatively inexpensive at £55. The Faital Pro 8PR200 is probably the best, lightweight 8" speaker for bass guitar. It costs about £100. It's not quite clear what your plans are, but if you're going for a lightweight build, you should avoid ceramic magnets and multiple drivers, as they will make your cabinet heavier than it needs to be. I cannot see any situation apart from bedroom practice where you could get away with a single 6" - so I'd avoid those - and also go for a single 10" if that's feasible.