stevie

Just an observation, Conan, old chum.

I think you're right. Any whiff of criticism about Barefaced, justified or not, and this is what we get. Some people are just too emotionally invested in their gear.

Nope. That was a factual statement in direct response to a query.

Thanks to the new site design, you can actually find this stuff out. For your information, three of my last 100 posts (excluding this thread) were in Bareface threads. Hardly a crusade, I'd say. And I've never bashed Barefaced. I occasionally disagree with some of the claims made by some of the more evangelical users, but I think that's allowed.

Oops!

Would you point out to me where in this thread that I bashed Barefaced?

Rubbish.

The handles were the right way up - it's the cabinet that was upside down.

To expand briefly on my much-maligned laconic comment, I would just explain that the cost of producing a 3-way loudspeaker system with a high quality midrange driver and HF unit is much higher than the configuration of a single or twin driver with an optional small tweeter favoured by Barefaced and many others. Although it's fairly obvious that the drive units in a 3-way system cost more, many people don't appreciate that the crossover in a system like some of the early Barefaced models and the current Fearful range is a very high-cost item - not to mention quite difficult to design properly.

Why don't you stay and actually contribute something useful?

"A typically helpful response." Perhaps I should have said sarcastic rather than tetchy. If you would like me to expand on my comment, feel free to ask. But there's nothing wrong with a single-word post if it actually says something.

It's not me posting the tetchy comment.

I didn't claim to be helping anyone. Just taking part in the discussion. Do you have a problem with that?

You can if you build your own.

Cost.

I've had all three on the same bass and ended up with the Schaller 3D. The Badass was a bit of a lump - and cutting your own slots is a bit primitive.. The Gotoh was nice and simple, and I'd happily use it again, but the Schaller was the most sophisticated from an engineering point of view. I currently have an Ibanez with a cast Ibanez bridge and don't feel the need to upgrade it.

Agreed - really good job. But I would have plugged it in way before this.

Do we have someone who can set up the shootout?

When I made my last cab, the grille was the most awkward item to procure. A custom-made metal grille was going to cost me nearly £30. I ended up buying a wrecked Ashdown cab just for the grille. Where did that one come from? It looks good. Do you really need the edge strips? I can't help thinking it might make the cab look a bit amateur, whereas now it looks like a real pro job. Just a thought.

There will be some self-build cabs with tweeters - no problem.

This promises to be really interesting.

You're a very fast worker, fleabag.

Makes sense. There's no reason for the curve to fall off so soon. You do occasionally get a driver with that kind of sloping response, but they're usually bass drivers with heavy cones.

Yes, I would. Because the ports are in the corners, you should leave those areas clear.

Yes, well that takes care of the theory but doesn't really explain what to do. The principle is to add as much damping material as you can to reduce standing waves and flutter echoes without reducing the output from the ports (too much). It's a bit of a balancing act, but with the right measuring equipment you can see exactly what effect the damping is having on the system and choose the optimum amount of internal damping. That's how I arrived at the damping layout for the Basschat 12 cab. If you over-damp, you'll reduce port output; if you under-damp, you'll have a lot of ringing going on inside the box. As a rule of thumb, you should line all the walls but keep the area around the ports clear.